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Old 05-24-2014, 10:50 PM   #51
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I don't know... the film kinda reinforced the idea that the franchise would be better off without Singer's involvement. Mostly from a story standpoint, anyway.

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Old 05-24-2014, 11:05 PM   #52
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If anything, the film attested that the franchise is a lot better in the hands of Singer. From the visual standpoint, First Class is a terrific film, as it is a love letter to 60's cinema.

However, the standoff on the beach undercuts characterization and the artistry of the film. Trying to unpack everything wrong is frustrating as it is one of the sloppiest written sequences in superhero history. First and foremost, what I found grating about the scene was that Moira was acting like she had been lobotomized. She knew that Eric was a master of magnetism, yet her response to Eric being Eric was to shoot a gun at him. There's no justification for this character decision; in one swift stroke, they turned one of the smarter and more resourceful females in the X-series into an idiot. The fact that they follow up with a scene of Eric wiping her mind is redundant, as it seemed her mind-memory and some of the hardware included-were wiped well before he went to work on it.

The whole A Separate Piece shading for Charles' crippling injury made it even more infuriating. I liked that Singer took a jab at in DOFP with the line about Eric's "magic bullets." I did not like A Separate Piece, nor did I care for its influence on the narrative.

Last, but not least, the mutant and proud bit. That line was way worse than the coming out scene in X2. It should have been a tagline for a poster, not a line in the film. It's in the same spectrum as the "I'm the Juggernaut, b****," though decidedly not as horrid...but, still bad.

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Makes me worry a bit though. Singer is so great but what if he decided to walk? Could anyone else in Hollywood get it so right?

I mean there's Vaughan of course but he doesn't sound thrilled about coming back

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Old 05-25-2014, 04:45 AM   #54
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I don't know... the film kinda reinforced the idea that the franchise would be better off without Singer's involvement. Mostly from a story standpoint, anyway.
Yeah he just destroyed Ratners fine work

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Old 05-25-2014, 04:49 AM   #55
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I am chiming in with The Joker, this is the best comic book film since The Dark Knight.

Bravo Mr Singer, I applaud you.

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I am chiming in with The Joker, this is the best comic book film since The Dark Knight.

Bravo Mr Singer, I applaud you.
I might agree with that statement once I've seen it again but Rises, Avengers and TWS are tough competition.

Still shall decide soon.

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I might agree with that statement once I've seen it again but Rises, Avengers and TWS are tough competition.

Still shall decide soon.
Part of me wants to say since Rises as I do love Rises oh so very much, but TDK is my favourite film so that's where I mainly draw the comparison. So I guess since TDK and Rises. The Avengers is okay by my books and The Winter Soldier was the best Marvel Studios film since Iron Man.

This film was just something else for me, I was almost in disbelief at just how DAMN good it was.

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I yeah I hear you, the end of this was very reminiscent of Rises I thought and I didnt expect that from an Xmen film.

I just need to see it again to make sure I wasnt carried away by hype the first time, but damn there was just so much good stuff in this it was hard to take it all in at once, it was finally the Xmen film I had been waiting for watching the cartoons and comics as a kid.

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Old 05-25-2014, 05:09 AM   #59
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Thank you Bryan. Now go make Apocalypse!

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I yeah I hear you, the end of this was very reminiscent of Rises I thought and I didnt expect that from an Xmen film.

I just need to see it again to make sure I wasnt carried away by hype the first time, but damn there was just so much good stuff in this it was hard to take it all in at once, it was finally the Xmen film I had been waiting for watching the cartoons and comics as a kid.
My thoughts as well. I have to let some time pass, to say it was better than rises. Maybe it is, just surprised how effective and emotional at times, it was.

Going back to 2000, after once there's only one superhero movie in 2008 that jumps out to me that is better than this. After a few more viewings we will see.

I hope Singer and maybe fox more importantly takes time though with Apocalypse. Get the screenplay right.

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My thoughts as well. I have to let some time pass, to say it was better than rises. Maybe it is, just surprised how effective and emotional at times, it was.

Going back to 2000, after once there's only one superhero movie in 2008 that jumps out to me that is better than this. After a few more viewings we will see.

I hope Singer and maybe fox more importantly takes time though with Apocalypse. Get the screenplay right.
Yeah, thats my concern now, DOFP is so damn good I just hope they can at least maintain that level of quality. Its not going to be easy for them but after FC, TW and now this they are on a good run and heading in the right direction but this will be a hard act to follow, look what came after X2, Spiderman 2 and even Blade 2.

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I yeah I hear you, the end of this was very reminiscent of Rises I thought and I didnt expect that from an Xmen film.

I just need to see it again to make sure I wasnt carried away by hype the first time, but damn there was just so much good stuff in this it was hard to take it all in at once, it was finally the Xmen film I had been waiting for watching the cartoons and comics as a kid.
Interesting. The ending of this film reminded of a Nolan film. But not Rises. It reminded me of Inception. Not to mention the climax occuring between different planes of existence.

But you are right. Thinking about it, Charles' arc does resemble Bruce's.

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Old 05-25-2014, 09:11 AM   #63
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Yeah he just destroyed Ratners fine work
Eh, Ratner came in too late to really take any blame. It goes back to him, Vaughn, and of course, Fox.

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I might agree with that statement once I've seen it again but Rises, Avengers and TWS are tough competition.

Still shall decide soon.
I would say I also prefer The Dark Knight Rises and maybe X-Men: First Class. But when I think of GREAT comic book movies, from TDK to now, DOFP is certainly on this list. I forgot how enjoyable a really good comic book movie can be.

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DoFP is Singer's most 'ambitious' and well-made X-Men movie, even though X2 had a better spread of character moments and screentime and, perhaps, better structure overall. DoFP needed another action scene in the middle where it went all talky and plotty for a long time (and the man along from me yawned and was asked if he was bored).

They slightly hamstrung themselves with 70s action because only Magneto and Quicksilver were able to provide epic visuals.

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All I can say to Bryan Singer is "Girrl! You better werkk (more)"

DOFP is the best X-Men movie to date, period!

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LOL no!

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So does Simon Kinberg. He wrote and produced the best comic book movie of the year after being called a hack and other choice names for YEARS.

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Yeah I kinda felt bad doubting Simon Kinberg all this time.

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Yeah I kinda felt bad doubting Simon Kinberg all this time.
Yep. And it sounds as if he, Singer, and Donner have pretty solid plans for what they want to do with APOCALYPSE.

Honestly, I think we're back on track for the moment.

Dan Harris and Michael Doughtery are also back for this film as well so I like the brain trust going into the next film.

But, yeah, Singer's got to direct this next film. Not saying it'll be the finale but it just might be.

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Hey guys i'm not sure if i should see X-men dofp but i want to because i read some of the plot and it sounds really really good but the problem is i'm a christian and i'm afraid that the movie contains anti christian messages because remember X1, X2 Intro where xavier talks about evolotion bottom line is i'm really strong in my faith but i just want one of you guys to confirm if it has these messages or not Thanks.

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Interesting. The ending of this film reminded of a Nolan film. But not Rises. It reminded me of Inception. Not to mention the climax occuring between different planes of existence.

But you are right. Thinking about it, Charles' arc does resemble Bruce's.
Yeah it sort of has a bit of both I suppose. The amount of questions it leaves with you at the end is very much like Inception, the timeline, what has happened before or after, sign of a good movie if it leaves you with lots to talk about. A fantastic ending.

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I would say I also prefer The Dark Knight Rises and maybe X-Men: First Class. But when I think of GREAT comic book movies, from TDK to now, DOFP is certainly on this list. I forgot how enjoyable a really good comic book movie can be.
Yeah the X-men series has sort of walked the line between the ultra serious Dark Knight trilogy and more light hearted Marvel tone.

I guess it will come down to your mood and who your favourite character ultimately is but its good that X-men has an entry that can hold its own up against the best in the genre, X2 is still highly regarded today but this series needed a BIG entry as things have moved on since those days in terms of spectacle and technological advances, but I think they did it.

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Also ice man is my fav

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Yeah the X-men series has sort of walked the line between the ultra serious Dark Knight trilogy and more light hearted Marvel tone.
And thats why I love about the X-Men movies. I really couldn't enjoy the Dark Knight trilogy because its just so damn serious and gritty and I always feel like there's always lack of an emotional depth in MCU movies.

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Yeah it sort of has a bit of both I suppose. The amount of questions it leaves with you at the end is very much like Inception, the timeline, what has happened before or after, sign of a good movie if it leaves you with lots to talk about. A fantastic ending.



Yeah the X-men series has sort of walked the line between the ultra serious Dark Knight trilogy and more light hearted Marvel tone.

I guess it will come down to your mood and who your favourite character ultimately is but its good that X-men has an entry that can hold its own up against the best in the genre, X2 is still highly regarded today but this series needed a BIG entry as things have moved on since those days in terms of spectacle and technological advances, but I think they did it.
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