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Old 05-26-2014, 09:11 AM   #26
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But if Azazel is dead, who will the father be?
She was knocked up before Azarel was killed if they go into them as nightcrawler's parents.

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I was wondering what they were planning with Nightcrawler if Azazel is dead as well. I suppose Mystique could've already had Kurt and no one knew about it. It would explain her being hell bent on killing Trask (avenging her lover and trying to protect her son) It woud've been nice if they hinted to that.

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Where are all these points about Apocalypse coming from? No time travel?

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But if Azazel is dead, who will the father be?
Already had him, or she was pregnant during the DOFP.

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Where are all these points about Apocalypse coming from? No time travel?
Well, if he's "eternal" then Apocalypse himself will not need time-travel. Just something to have kept him busy/incapacitated for the past however many centuries.

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Thanks. I was in bed watching Apocalypse debut on TAS when he had Mystique proclaiming a fake cure. Just like she delivered Warrington and those others, I'm thinking she delivers Wolverine. And just like Angel was upgraded, I figure they'd upgrade Wolverine and that's how he gets the adamantium this time around, making him a horseman of Apocalypse.

The whole ripple effect Beast was talking about in DOFP would come true, not for everyone's future, but just Wolverine. Kind of like that's the price he has to pay for saving the world by changing the future. He'll never escape the adamantium bonding.

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I wonder if Bolivar Trask will return.


I think they should write the Trask character from X3 as his adopted son.
I would not be surprised. But probably not as a major role for Apocalypse. Again, I think they will seek to give Apocalypse some level of closure, because contracts go up. But as a credits stinger? Maybe Trask will be making Sentinels again, and they can have a different look.

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But if Azazel is dead, who will the father be?
I think it was 10 years since X-Men FC? I'm sure she could have had a kid somewhere in that time. If we assume the next film will be in another 5-10 years he could be in his early teens.

So confirmed characters for the next film then -
Professor X
Cyclops*
Jean*
Storm*
Nightcrawler
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Beast.. I'm assuming.

Magneto (no brainer)
Mystique (obviously)
Apocalype

* I'd sweeearr I've read somewhere they would be in it but can't remember where.


What if Archangel.. is a woman!!!! (see what I did there)

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Angel from first class maybe? She seems to be missing a wing

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Thanks. I was in bed watching Apocalypse debut on TAS when he had Mystique proclaiming a fake cure. Just like she delivered Warrington and those others, I'm thinking she delivers Wolverine. And just like Angel was upgraded, I figure they'd upgrade Wolverine and that's how he gets the adamantium this time around, making him a horseman of Apocalypse.

The whole ripple effect Beast was talking about in DOFP would come true, not for everyone's future, but just Wolverine. Kind of like that's the price he has to pay for saving the world by changing the future. He'll never escape the adamantium bonding.
That would make sense, Mystique taking Logan to Apocalypse. They DID say that X-Men: Apocalypse was happening as a result of the events in this film, and that could be what they were referring to.
I was actually originally expecting/hoping to see Logan wake up in the AOA future after "fixing" the catalyst for the Sentinel DOFP future.

Would be a logical way to do 2 dystopian futures back to back. I've always been a fan of the "fixes" leading to whole new worlds of problems. They did similar with Bishop in TAS.
Although I loved how DOFP ended, they probably could have been a MUCH more dramatic ending having Logan wake up and look around to see he's still in a dystopia, then see Jean and Scott, etc, alive, and fighting and then we get a glimpse of something hitting/implying the Age of Apocalypse future.
They could have even not gone dystopian. It could have been the same future he woke up in the end of DOFP, and then right before the credits role, there's an attack on the school, or something else hinting at another drastic change.

Personally would rather see the Weapon X storyline done justice than seeing Apocalypse giving him the adamantium, but it would be an interesting take for an Apocalypse film.

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Angel from first class maybe? She seems to be missing a wing
Along with some internal organs likely. We saw her autopsy photo along with Azazel's

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I think the writers have been pushed into a corner due to these both very popular casts, on one hand, the 80s storyline's the time most people want to see explored, on the other, the peaceful future makes us know how the status quo will be like, while Jean's return has opened the doors for a proper Dark Phoenix storyline.
I think this is actually an opportunity, there are countless stories they could tell now. With TLS they ran out of ideas and started making the prequels and spin-offs but now they have a lot of stuff to work with.

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I was wondering what they were planning with Nightcrawler if Azazel is dead as well. I suppose Mystique could've already had Kurt and no one knew about it. It would explain her being hell bent on killing Trask (avenging her lover and trying to protect her son) It woud've been nice if they hinted to that.
I think they did, when she started crying at Azezel's picture in the scene where she's in Trask's office.

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Okay I watched DOFP for the second time today and noticed near the end the big headline on the newspaper is the Sentinel program was closed on the side of that there was a smaller headline saying government's step up the hunt for Magneto. So Maybe he's on the run at the start of Apocalypse.

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I would not be surprised. But probably not as a major role for Apocalypse. Again, I think they will seek to give Apocalypse some level of closure, because contracts go up. But as a credits stinger? Maybe Trask will be making Sentinels again, and they can have a different look.
And maybe he uses Sentinels in desperation for such a big threat like Apocalypse.

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Heres my X-Men: Apocalypse story and characters that will be included:

After the events of DOFP we arrive in the 1980s. Xavier's school is thriving, Erik hasn't been heard from in years, & Mystique is nowhere to be found. Everything is calm on the surface but in the core of the universe a threat is bubbling.

Apocalypse, the very first mutant & most powerful of all laid dormant for eons but Logan's time travel leads to a ripple in the space time continuum that awakens the ancient mutant. He is stuck in the fabric of time as he is accidentally awoken too early. Through telepathy he contacts Nathaniel Essex, a local physicist that is intrigued with mutants & all things "out there". Apocalypse gives him the power to complete his theories of time travel & alternate dimensions. Essex is able to conjure Apocalypse back into reality and in return is granted the power of telepathy as well as being able to materialize energy.

Xavier feels something on the horizon that is very powerful but cannot fully see what is coming bc of Apocalypse's power, he blocks out telepathes from seeing his energy. He begins to assemble his X-Men team underneath the school. Scott Summers, Jean Grey, Warren Worthington, & Hank McCoy are the official first team of the new X-Men, they begin to search for Logan, Erik, & Mystique for help with the impending threat. Erik has formed a band of mutants, Mystique is still righting the wrongs of mutant damnation & Logan is missing in action presumably in the Weapon X program.

Essex now under the name Sinister forms a plan with Apocalypse to destroy the human race but Apocalypse needs more servants for his cause. He tasks Sinister with finding his new 4 Horsemen. Where else can you find powerful mutants that can fight a war? Xaviers School. Sinister transforms himself and arrives at Xaviers school scouting the talent. He's intrigued with Warren Worthington's flight ability, his encounter with Warren gives him enough time to plant the seed in his head that he can be part of a greater cause & poisons the young X Man.

Worthington can't sleep, Sinister's voice plagues his thoughts and he disappears from the school to seek out this greater cause. Arriving at Sinister's lab he is introduced to Apocalypse who turns him into the first Horseman of Apocalypse, outfitting him in a black and silver outfit & replacing his feathered wings with razor sharp vibranium wings. Warren is then tasked to find 3 more to round out the horsemen. He choose Sentry, Stryfe, & Apocalypse tasks him with tracking down Mystique to join his team of destruction.

While Archangel, Sentry, & Stryfe travel to find Mystique Xavier and the X-Men struggle to find Magneto. Charles uses cerebro to catch a beat on Erik's whereabouts and feels strongly he's forming his new Brotherhood of Mutants in New Orleans, the sudden density of mutant inhabitants leads Charles to believe Erik is up to something in Nola. Upon arriving Charles, Scott, Jean, & Hank encounter a group of Marauders & their leader, the powerful mutant known as Gambit. Gambit is reluctant to give them any info on Erik's whereabouts but after a fight he and his friend Auroro Moreau are the only ones left standing. Gambit, the survivor he is agrees to lead the X-Men to Erik and his Brotherhood on one condition, they take care of Auroro aka Storm, she was an orphan he had rescued from a secret mutant internment camp called Genosha just off the coast of New Orleans. Charles is impressed with Storm's gifts & agrees to take her in. The 6 mutants head off into the night on the words of a shifty cajun stranger.

We pick up with Erik giving a speech to a group of familiar faces, Peter & Wanda Maximoff sit at desks in the front of a classroom at an abandoned school, next to them sits Toad, Havok, Psylocke, & Fred Dukes, their plan...attack Genosha and free all the mutants held captive. We cut to Gambit fast talking & telling the X-Men he believes Erik is being held at Genosha...so he leads them there.

The short version of the story is that both groups of mutants attack Genosha running into each other in the process. Gambit was really tricking Charles & the X-Men to collect a overall bounty for anyone who could deliver mutants to Genosha. The X-Men realize this as the fighting erupts but Gambit saves the day and is reluctantly forgiven and let into the fold. While at Genosha, Logan is discovered to be there participating in the Weapon X program. He has is adamantium claws now but has no memory of the X-Men or Magneto.....not sure where to take it from here.

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I think that now's as good a time as any to finally introduce Asteroid M or Genosha, give Magneto a place for him to live in peace until the inevitable second war with Humans.

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I want Genosha. Please Kinberg. Please Singer. Make it happen!

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I would like that too, but I think it would be better suited in another movie with the OT cast. I can't really see a good reason to have it in a movie with Apocalypse.

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My only concern with the AOA movie is that it might feel awkward to see a bunch of newly formed Xmen (teenagers or adolescents, at that) to fight and defeat one of the most powerful mutants in Marvel-verse. :s

I would've wished this movie to be handled by the OT cast but this is just me nitpicking.

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I do wonder if they will hook Beast and Mystique up in Apocalypse. Now granted, I don't think Mystique is going to be a good guy so i seriously doubt it but the look they shared at the end of DOFP made me wonder if in the new timeline they do end up hooking up.

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My only concern with the AOA movie is that it might feel awkward to see a bunch of newly formed Xmen (teenagers or adolescents, at that) to fight and defeat one of the most powerful mutants in Marvel-verse. :s

I would've wished this movie to be handled by the OT cast but this is just me nitpicking.
I understand that worry but if they finally have them showing their true power potential I can see it working. Although, it would be like watching the prequels with the faster ships and better looking effects, then jumping into the original SW films with old school effects and technology.

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As much as I'd love to see Weapon X done again, and done right, they're simply not going to do it. So I'd say Wolverine getting the adamantium from Apocalypse is the best, and cleanest, way to get that plot point brushed over and done with. Especially after the Mystique fake-out at the end of DOFP!

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I understand that worry but if they finally have them showing their true power potential I can see it working. Although, it would be like watching the prequels with the faster ships and better looking effects, then jumping into the original SW films with old school effects and technology.
I see. But with half of the movie dedicated for their power or character development, I hope we will be satisfied towards the end.

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Heres my X-Men: Apocalypse story and characters that will be included:

After the events of DOFP we arrive in the 1980s. Xavier's school is thriving, Erik hasn't been heard from in years, & Mystique is nowhere to be found. Everything is calm on the surface but in the core of the universe a threat is bubbling.

Apocalypse, the very first mutant & most powerful of all laid dormant for eons but Logan's time travel leads to a ripple in the space time continuum that awakens the ancient mutant. He is stuck in the fabric of time as he is accidentally awoken too early. Through telepathy he contacts Nathaniel Essex, a local physicist that is intrigued with mutants & all things "out there". Apocalypse gives him the power to complete his theories of time travel & alternate dimensions. Essex is able to conjure Apocalypse back into reality and in return is granted the power of telepathy as well as being able to materialize energy.

Xavier feels something on the horizon that is very powerful but cannot fully see what is coming bc of Apocalypse's power, he blocks out telepathes from seeing his energy. He begins to assemble his X-Men team underneath the school. Scott Summers, Jean Grey, Warren Worthington, & Hank McCoy are the official first team of the new X-Men, they begin to search for Logan, Erik, & Mystique for help with the impending threat. Erik has formed a band of mutants, Mystique is still righting the wrongs of mutant damnation & Logan is missing in action.

Essex now under the name Sinister forms a plan with Apocalypse to destroy the human race but Apocalypse needs more servants for his cause. He tasks Sinister with finding his new 4 Horsemen. Where else can you find powerful mutants that can fight a war? Xaviers School. Sinister transforms himself and arrives at Xaviers school scouting the talent. He's intrigued with Warren Worthington's flight ability, his encounter with Warren gives him enough time to plant the seed in his head that he can be part of a greater cause & poisons the young X Man.

Worthington can't sleep, Sinister's voice plagues his thoughts and he disappears from the school to seek out this greater cause. Arriving at Sinister's lab he is introduced to Apocalypse who turns him into the first Horseman of Apocalypse, outfitting him in a black and silver outfit & replacing his feathered wings with razor sharp vibranium wings. Warren is then tasked to find 3 more to round out the horsemen. He choose Sentry, Psylocke, & a young Nightcrawler to join his team of destruction.

....not a bad start and probably somewhat what we'll see. I would assume for most of the film Apocalypse gets the upper hand & the X-Men recruit a bigger team with assorted powers to take him down or trap him in the fabric of time.

What do ya think?
nice idea, I liked it all the way up until the inclusion of angel.. it just wouldn't work he would be to young and tbh is kinda lame compared to other mutants.

what could work better is if there is a subplot where mysteeq is manipulated into giving wolverine over to apocalypse, he then puts the adamantium back into him and makes him the leader of the horsemen and trying to kill xavier. making wolverine the villain of the film.

then the film after that would be on par with the ultimate x-men.. Wolverines memory is wiped, and the rest of the team don't trust him when he's recruited due to him trying to kill Xavier, the only difference with the ultimate one is apocalypse was the sender instead of magneto.

they could even use this opportunity to recast wolverine as jackman doesn't want to stay on.

maybe apocalypse de-ages him while putting adamantium into to make him to be in his prime.

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