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Old 06-14-2014, 11:29 AM   #176
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Nobody cares about acting. We care about looks only. They're both hot so in the end I win.

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while she does not have the Wonder Woman comic book body...we don't know what Wonder Woman will look like in the movies. Looking at the women that were up for the role...none of them had the comic body. So obviously the comic body is not what they are going for.

I don't see a lack of acting work as a bad thing. Actors and actresses have to start somewhere...and unless they get a chance to prove themselves we'll never know.
No woman in Hollywood has the Wonder Woman comic body unless you want them cast the wrestler Chyna or some other female body builder.

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Ah, well I meant "you" as those people who are ready to praise Gal's Wonder Woman so much they've jumped on this odd bandwagon. For me I hope i'm wrong because there's no basis to go on with Gal as Wonder Woman. Sure if she either looked the part or is a talented actress then I have something to go on but she's got neither. As for the other two that auditioned, at least i've seen Olga as a talented actress in her films even if she doesn't look like the part. Elodie Yung may look like the part, but i've only seen her in two things and wasn't impressed.
There's also the subculture that are willing to give her a chance before considering her a total miscast.

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Anne Hathaway was supposedly a disastrous decision at least, before the film was released.
I thought that she was the best part of TDKR.


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Ah, well I meant "you" as those people who are ready to praise Gal's Wonder Woman so much they've jumped on this odd bandwagon. For me I hope i'm wrong because there's no basis to go on with Gal as Wonder Woman. Sure if she either looked the part or is a talented actress then I have something to go on but she's got neither. As for the other two that auditioned, at least i've seen Olga as a talented actress in her films even if she doesn't look like the part. Elodie Yung may look like the part, but i've only seen her in two things and wasn't impressed.
How can we say she doesn't look like Wonder Woman when we haven't seen her as WW???

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No woman in Hollywood has the Wonder Woman comic body unless you want them cast the wrestler Chyna or some other female body builder.
I bring that up because people seem to think she is a fail because she doesn't have the comic body. Judging from the women cast they weren't going for her comic body

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There's also the subculture that are willing to give her a chance before considering her a total miscast.
I guess that makes me a part of a subculture .
As far as I know,
That is a first for me !

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No woman in Hollywood has the Wonder Woman comic body unless you want them cast the wrestler Chyna or some other female body builder.
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And this is just one example, I'm sure people could come with a dozen more with little effort.

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I guess that makes me a part of a subculture .
As far as I know,
That is a first for me !
Well there's seem to be a few of us as most are already damning her or praising her.

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And what's the problem with believing she won't succeed? Is there something wrong in saying "I don't like her casting because this and that"? Sure, you can go crazy and say she already failed and doom, but saying what your expectations are is not wrong in any way.



I'm saying that the fact she looks so different from the pattern established by the male heroes castings shows a different view of her character.
Because you have absolutely no evidence to support that notion. It's just being pessimistic for it's own sake. If you're going to take a position, then you'd damn well better have actual evidence to back it up, simple.

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Thing is with Eisenberg, I hesitate to call it "bad casting" because it's not like he's been picked solely for his resemblance to the comic book Lex and he's a notoriously bad actor, in fact he looks absolutely nothing like Lex Luthor, so it's clear their intentions for the character are completely different and beyond what we know about Lex, so it's not bad casting at all. It just lies in how Goyer has written him.

Gadot on the other hand is someone who has yet to give a good performance and she particularly doesn't have a WW like physique, I wouldn't blame anyone who had their doubts. It's purely wait and see.

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Because you have absolutely no evidence to support that notion. It's just being pessimistic for it's own sake. If you're going to take a position, then you'd damn well better have actual evidence to back it up, simple.
But there are evidences:

- The way she looks
- The lack of good displays of acting
- Snyder track record

And that's what I can come up right now, but I believe they could be elaborated on.

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And this is just one example, I'm sure people could come with a dozen more with little effort.
Please in the comics WM has more muscles without flexing and her boobs aren't big enough if we are going with the comics. She is also caucasian which Wonder Woman is not.

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And this is just one example, I'm sure people could come with a dozen more with little effort.
when people were complaining about Gal not having WW's comic body they weren't talking about her arms

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And this is just one example, I'm sure people could come with a dozen more with little effort.
But comic WW body is not just arms, right?

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But comic WW body is not just arms, right?
Blunt had a fantastic frame and physique in general with that film. Very convincing as a warrior. Not too often I can say that about these type of castings.

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But there are evidences:

- The way she looks (We haven't seen her as Wonder Woman yet)
- The lack of good displays of acting (True she's just getting started)
- Snyder track record (not sure what this means but the general consensus is he cast his movies well)

And that's what I can come up right now, but I believe they could be elaborated on.
Not really compelling evidence that she was miscast.

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But there are evidences:

- The way she looks
- The lack of good displays of acting
- Snyder track record

And that's what I can come up right now, but I believe they could be elaborated on.
In regards to how she looks ,
The other two candidates were the same body type.
What do you mean by Snyder's track record ?

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I wonder if the other actresses gave more one dimensional "tough" auditions and Gal showed the ability to not only play tough but also sweet when necessary? That's my guess.

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Blunt had a fantastic frame and physique in general with that film. Very convincing as a warrior. Not too often I can say that about these type of castings.
did she have that physique before she was cast in that film?

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I don't think she will fail because she doesn't have a comic book body. I think she will fail because she isn't a good actress.

Everyone is a good actor in this film besides her. Everyone. She is just a weak choice for the first take on Wonder Woman. Hell Ray Fisher for Cyborg is a better pick for the first Cyborg than Wonder Woman's first actor.

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She doesn't look that big here. Also she 5' 7" while WM is as taller or as tall as batman. She wouldn't work as a "realistic" WM.

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DC's casting has been terrific; I have faith Gadot will deliver.

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Thing is with Eisenberg, I hesitate to call it "bad casting" because it's not like he's been picked solely for his resemblance to the comic book Lex and he's a notoriously bad actor, in fact he looks absolutely nothing like Lex Luthor, so it's clear their intentions for the character are completely different and beyond what we know about Lex, so it's not bad casting at all. It just lies in how Goyer has written him.

Gadot on the other hand is someone who has yet to give a good performance and she particularly doesn't have a WW like physique, I wouldn't blame anyone who had their doubts. It's purely wait and see.
He doesn't look like Lex????
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Not really compelling evidence that she was miscast.
Enought to believe she might have been, not enough to scientifically determine she was.

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In regards to how she looks ,
The other two candidates were the same body type.
What do you mean by Snyder's track record ?
That's what I talked about ealier, if you consider that no one of three finalists for Wondie had a body more like Emily's in her last film show that the casting crew was looking for something like them, I mean, obviously. But that doesn't make the problem go away, it just show the problem was elsewhere.

And about Snyder, he may be a problem or a blessing depending what you expect from WW in this films. If you believe she will be something like Faora, I believe Gadot and Snyder will do an outstading job. However, if you think she should be one of the pillars of the JL, the third most important member of whatever, then no, I don't think Snyder will be able to do that.

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