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Old 10-14-2017, 07:42 PM   #1
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Default MCU Power Tiers

Official MCU Power Tiers - List in Progress.

Blue = Official Final Placement
Orange = Official Transitional Placement
Red = Unofficial Speculative Placement


We took jaqua99's list as a starting point and along with input from BigThor, jaqua99 and myself (Surfer) we have added some characters to the speculative list making it a little more comprehensive. We will be adding more characters as we think of them or new ones appear. Characters in Blue have earned their Official Final Placement and ranking on the list through Vs. battles on the hype forum, and they will always be placed above characters in Red within the same Power Tier. Characters in Orange have earned their Official Transitional Placement through Vs. battles on the forum. These characters still need to have additional fights before we can determine their Final Placement in Blue. Characters in Red are on the list due to Unofficial Speculative Placement by the three of us running the battles and these characters are not in any specific order within the Power Tiers. These characters will remain in Red until selected for battle and they will either turn Blue or Orange depending on the outcome of the battle. Be aware, all Orange characters are always working towards and will eventually become Blue. If no fans vote for power tiers then it will be up to Jaqua99, BigThor and myself (Surfer) to place the characters within the tiers using a 2/3 vote majority. This list will be updated weekly with more and more characters gaining Official Placement as more and more battles are fought. Also feel free to speculate by adding your own tier list to the thread.

Cosmic Tier (cosmic/interdimension level power/presence on a planetary scale, at the minimum)
Dormammu
Eson The Searcher with Infinity Stone
Surtur Prime
Ego The Living Planet
Odin
Doctor Strange (w/ time gem)

Transcendent Tier (City to planetary level power & Cosmic/interdimensional level influence on a local scale?)
Ultron Prime (Vibranium)
Thanos
Kurse
Fenris

Powerhouse Tier (Beyond top tier, power/interdimensional power on a block to city Level)
Hulkbuster Iron Man
Ghost Rider
Abomination
Thor
Doctor Strange
Malekith (W/ reality gem)
Ancient One
Vision
Hulk
The Destroyer Armor
Giant Man
Kaecilius

Top Tier (Street to block level?)
Aldrich Killian
Drax the Destroyer
Ronan
Loki
Iron Monger
Iron Man
Scarlet Witch
Whiplash
War Machine
Quake
Malekith
Valkyrie
Heimdall
Sif
Hogun
Fandral
Volstagg
Korath The Pursuer
Groot
Killgrave
Yondu
Lash
Hive
Frigga
Pepper Potts with Extremis
Mantis
Skurge
Korg
Baron Mordo
Master Wong

Superhuman Tier (Street Level)
Captain America
Gamora
Spiderman
Black Panther
Winter Soldier
Vulture
Red Skull
Crossbones
Falcon
Quicksilver
Starlord
Iron Fist
Luke Cage
Jessica Jones
Eric Savin (Extremis Soldier)
Ellen Brandt (Extremis Soldier)
Emil Blonsky (Super Soldier)
Madame Gao
Mr. Hyde
Slingshot
Aida
Raina
Deathlok
The Patriot
Carl Creed the Absorbing Man
Lorelei
Nebula
Miek
Ant Man
Yellow Jacket

Street Tier (non super human, agent level)
Daredevil
Black Widow
Elektra
Hawkeye
Punisher
Coleen Wing
Batroc the Leaper
Rocket Racoon
Shocker
Kingpin
Nobu
Diamondback
Bakuto
Peggy Carter
Sharon Carter Agent 13
Dum Dum Dugan
Mocking Bird
Maria Hill
Misty Knight
The Punisher
Nick Fury
Phil Coulson
Zemo

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Old 10-14-2017, 11:36 PM   #2
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From the spoilers in the Thor: Ragnarok section, Surtur sounds way more powerful than Ego, who didn't offer much by way of offensive strength. He was just a parasite. A big one, yes, but the Guardians were holding just fine against him.

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I was just in the Thor Ragnarok thread and having a debate on power levels, since now there is some Heavy Hitters starting to enter the MCU. However, I thought it might be fun to create a thread for this topic, so that people can add in their feedback and as new characters come along it will just add to the debate. So, here is mine.

Dormammu

Eson the Searcher

Ego

Odin
Surtur


Hela
Dr. Strange

Malekith
Thor
Hulk

Loki

I will post more soon, but I would love to hear other peoples thoughts.

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Just out of curiosity, why are you giving so much power to Dr. Strange? Grouping him with Hela is quite a compliment. I know he's got a great amount of power with regard to magic, but doesn't his being human make him a great deal more vulnerable to attack than some of these other characters?

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I don't have a whole lot of knowledge of the comic book characters but going by the movies, I would say Strange is human level powerhouse but I don't think I would put him above Hulk and Thor. And doesn't he need props to help him use his powers? Hulk and Thor's powers are inherently within them. Like Cap.

I'd put Dormammu top. Not sure where Thanos would be since we haven't seen him much. I'd probably put Ego above Hela but not sure about her since I haven't seen her in action yet. Same with Sukur (sp).

In terms of heroes, I'd say:

Hulk
Thor

Scarlet Witch

Strange
Cap

Spider Man

Black Panther

Iron Man

Black Widow
Hawkeye
Falcon
War Machine
Ant Man

Those are grouped in power tiers but within the tiers, no specific order.

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From the spoilers in the Thor: Ragnarok section, Surtur sounds way more powerful than Ego, who didn't offer much by way of offensive strength. He was just a parasite. A big one, yes, but the Guardians were holding just fine against him.
Well there are many that agree with you, but I feel Ego's ability to create living matter that is all controlled by himself, including a high functioning Avatar that can go out and explore space planting his seed to spread like a virus across the Universe when he is ready is an amazing display of power. I mean everything on the planet is a living extension of himself that he made with no physical form himself, just a brain. Surtur is Super strong no doubt but he is limited to physical strength and the power of his flame to destroy. Also, while there is no proof of this there are a few people including myself that feel like Ego is the Brain that came from the severed head of the Celestial known as Knowhere. And I would say the Celestials like Eson are considerably stronger then Surtur. Now I realize that Ego does not have arms and legs to fight like many Marvel characters, but if what I am saying is true then it goes to show the power level of the family of characters he belongs to, which I think speaks to his power.

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Just out of curiosity, why are you giving so much power to Dr. Strange? Grouping him with Hela is quite a compliment. I know he's got a great amount of power with regard to magic, but doesn't his being human make him a great deal more vulnerable to attack than some of these other characters?
I based it on the little I heard from Spoilers of Thor Ragnarok, so I gave him a boost on the tier list. So, it is a little bit of Speculation. In the comics he is Super Powerful Character though.

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Default Re: MCU Power Tiers

I'd say more like this (perhaps we could create tier labels)

Cosmic Tier (cosmic/interdimension level power/presence on a planetary scale, at the minimum)
Dormammu
Surtur
Odin
Doctor Strange (with time gem..reality hack)

Transcendent Tier (City to planetary level power & Cosmic/interdimensional level influence on a local scale?)
Ego
Odin(?)
Eson The Searcher
Ronan (w/power gem)
Thanos (I'm guessing will fall here)
Hela
Kurse (Another brick, but his strength and durability and utter domination places him above the power house tier)
Ultron Prime (his vibranium body made this an implication)


Powerhouse Tier (Beyond top tier, power/interdimensional power on a block to city Level)
Thor
Doctor Strange
Malekith (With reality gem)
Ancient One
Vision
Hulk (stamina and strength make up for lack in versatility)
Hulkbuster Iron man

Top Tier (Street to block level?)
Ronan
Loki (w/ or w/out scepter)
Iron Man
Scarlet Witch (tough to place)
Quake
Malekith

Superhuman Tier (Street Level)
Spiderman
Captain America
Black Panther
Winter Soldier
Ant Man
Crossbones
Falcon
Quicksilver
Iron Fist
Luke Cage
Jessica Jones

Street Tier (non super human, agent level)
Daredevil
Black Widow
Hawkeye

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I don't have a whole lot of knowledge of the comic book characters but going by the movies, I would say Strange is human level powerhouse but I don't think I would put him above Hulk and Thor. And doesn't he need props to help him use his powers? Hulk and Thor's powers are inherently within them. Like Cap.

I'd put Dormammu top. Not sure where Thanos would be since we haven't seen him much. I'd probably put Ego above Hela but not sure about her since I haven't seen her in action yet. Same with Sukur (sp).

In terms of heroes, I'd say:

Hulk
Thor

Scarlet Witch

Strange
Cap

Spider Man

Black Panther

Iron Man

Black Widow
Hawkeye
Falcon
War Machine
Ant Man

Those are grouped in power tiers but within the tiers, no specific order.
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Captain Marvel is going to be petty high up the list among heroes

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Captain Marvel is going to be petty high up the list among heroes
She will fall into my "power house" tier, I would think

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I'd say more like this (perhaps we could create tier labels)

Cosmic/ Tier (cosmic/interdimension level power/presence on a planetary scale, at the minimum)
Dormammu
Surtur
Odin
Doctor Strange (with time gem..reality hack)

Transcendent Tier (City to planetary level power & Cosmic/interdimensional level influence on a local scale?)
Ego
Odin(?)
Eson The Searcher
Ronan (w/power gem)
Thanos (I'm guessing will fall here)
Hela
Kurse (Another brick, but his strength and durability and utter domination places him above the power house tier)
Ultron Prime (his vibranium body made this an implication)


Powerhouse Tier (Beyond top tier, power/interdimensional power on a block to city Level)
Thor
Doctor Strange
Malekith (With reality gem)
Ancient One
Vision
Hulk (stamina and strength make up for lack in versatility)
Hulkbuster Iron man

Top Tier (Street to block level?)
Ronan
Loki (w/ or w/out scepter)
Iron Man
Scarlet Witch (tough to place)
Quake
Malekith

Superhuman Tier (Street Level)
Spiderman
Captain America
Black Panther
Winter Soldier
Ant Man
Crossbones
Falcon
Quicksilver
Iron Fist
Luke Cage
Jessica Jones

Street Tier (non super human, agent level)
Daredevil
Black Widow
Hawkeye
Great list Jaqua! I was almost thinking it would be cool to have a thread for Vs. battles once a week where people can vote on who they think would win in a MCU battle and use the winner of the poll to advance against another character around the same area of power until they get defeated in the polls. This would be a way to create a majority consensus on where these characters truly land in terms of power levels. So it would be like Dormammu vs. Surtur and let's say Dormammu wins, then the next battle would be Dormammu Vs. Odin and let's say Odin wins for the sake of argument then the tier list would start looking something like this.

Odin
Dormammu
Surtur

So, something along those lines and it would just keep going until things were established for all the characters. I mean what I showed is a little bit of an over simplification, but what do others think.

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Great list Jaqua! I was almost thinking it would be cool to have a thread for Vs. battles once a week where people can vote on who they think would win in a MCU battle and use the winner of the poll to advance against another character around the same area of power until they get defeated in the polls. This would be a way to create a majority consensus on where these characters truly land in terms of power levels. So it would be like Dormammu vs. Surtur and let's say Dormammu wins, then the next battle would be Dormammu Vs. Odin and let's say Odin wins for the sake of argument then the tier list would start looking something like this.

Odin
Dormammu
Surtur

So, something along those lines and it would just keep going until things were established for all the characters. I mean what I showed is a little bit of an over simplification, but what do others think.

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Sounds fun as hell !!

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She will fall into my "power house" tier, I would think
Not with the way Feige is hyping her up. I think they will go full cosmic with her.

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I was just in the Thor Ragnarok thread and having a debate on power levels, since now there is some Heavy Hitters starting to enter the MCU. However, I thought it might be fun to create a thread for this topic, so that people can add in their feedback and as new characters come along it will just add to the debate. So, here is mine.

Dormammu

Eson the Searcher

Ego

Odin
Surtur


Hela
Dr. Strange

Malekith
Thor
Hulk

Loki

I will post more soon, but I would love to hear other peoples thoughts.

Surfer

I might be misremembering The Dark World, but Malekith seems very high.
What power feats did he do that was particularly impressive?

I mean, he was able to take possession and control of an Infinity Stone I guess, but the Aether was in Jane Foster for a good while without making her explode immediately, so it’s probably not as difficult to wield as say, the Power Stone from GOTG.


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Spider-Man is so weird to place. On one hand, he's clowned multiple times in quick succession by a Cap who looks as if he's barely trying. On the other hand, he makes quick work of both Bucky and Falcon.

Bucky is superior to shieldless Cap, and a small margin behind shielded Cap. The idea that he falls so short in comparison to Cap when it comes to engaging Peter is a tad off.

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Not with the way Feige is hyping her up. I think they will go full cosmic with her.
Hyperbole.

She will need feats. I think she'll end up on the powerhouse tier

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Sounds fun as hell !!
Created the first MCU battle between Dormammu and Eson the Searcher ( Celestial). I don't want to use Odin, Surtur or Dr. Strange yet, since their appearance in Thor Ragnarok might effect peoples decision on their power levels. After a week I will start another battle and slowly build a tier list that everyone will have had a chance to provide input and effect the outcome. I hope this will be fun, but also create an accurate tier structure. Spread the word. Link to the battle below.

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I'm going to wait to reply to this thread properly until I've seen Ragnarok because we have some new characters in play there that aren't really fair to rank until I've seen it for myself. I'd definitely put Ego below Surtur, Odin and Hela from what I've read though. Yes, Ego is indeed powerful and he came very close to his goal of covering the entire universe with himself, but let's be real it took him millions of years to get to that point, he had to mate with countless different species to produce an heir that was powerful enough to assist him. Also, his actual core self is vulnerable (can be destroyed by one bomb alone) and isn't able to travel around on it's own. He can only travel by creating a 'mortal' extension of himself that withers and perishes if it is away from his core for too long.

From what I've read, Surtur, Odin and Hela would all be capable of conquering the universe through brute strength and power alone in a much quicker time scale than Ego. Yeah, there are scales of power there, Hela definitely seems to be less powerful than Surtur and Odin in his prime, but I'd definitely argue that she is more powerful than Ego.

Anway, I'll post my full ranking in 9 days (!!) when I've seen Ragnarok.

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I'm going to wait to reply to this thread properly until I've seen Ragnarok because we have some new characters in play there that aren't really fair to rank until I've seen it for myself. I'd definitely put Ego below Surtur, Odin and Hela from what I've read though. Yes, Ego is indeed powerful and he came very close to his goal of covering the entire universe with himself, but let's be real it took him millions of years to get to that point, he had to mate with countless different species to produce an heir that was powerful enough to assist him. Also, his actual core self is vulnerable (can be destroyed by one bomb alone) and isn't able to travel around on it's own. He can only travel by creating a 'mortal' extension of himself that withers and perishes if it is away from his core for too long.

From what I've read, Surtur, Odin and Hela would all be capable of conquering the universe through brute strength and power alone in a much quicker time scale than Ego. Yeah, there are scales of power there, Hela definitely seems to be less powerful than Surtur and Odin in his prime, but I'd definitely argue that she is more powerful than Ego.

Anway, I'll post my full ranking in 9 days (!!) when I've seen Ragnarok.
Well that's why on the more official collaborative tier list I will work on for this thread I avoided using any characters like Surtur, Odin, Dr. Strange, Hela, Thor and Hulk in the first battles. I will probably not use any of them in battles that will effect their tier ratings until the end of November, so people have ample time to see Ragnarok even multiple times before casting their thoughts on who would win.

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For people saying Ego wasn't that powerful, his avatar alone destroyed a Soveriegn fleet in one blow. He was pretty damn powerful.

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For people saying Ego wasn't that powerful, his avatar alone destroyed a Soveriegn fleet in one blow. He was pretty damn powerful.
I don't think anyone in here has said that he isn't very powerful, he's clearly one of the most powerful characters in the MCU. I'm arguing that he's less powerful than Surtur, Odin and Hela from what I've read so far. I'll re-judge that position once I've seen Ragnarok. And he's clearly less powerful than Dormammu who is undoubtedly the most powerful character we've seen yet.

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Old 10-15-2017, 06:32 PM   #22
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I don't think anyone in here has said that he isn't very powerful, he's clearly one of the most powerful characters in the MCU. I'm arguing that he's less powerful than Surtur, Odin and Hela from what I've read so far. I'll re-judge that position once I've seen Ragnarok. And he's clearly less powerful than Dormammu who is undoubtedly the most powerful character we've seen yet.
One poster said the Guardians didn't have trouble dealing with him, they certainly did. That's what I was referring to. As it needed the Celestial powered Quill to help defeat him.

I would agree Dormammu has been the most powerful so far though. Thanos could over take him next year though.

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Old 10-15-2017, 07:51 PM   #23
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I don't think anyone in here has said that he isn't very powerful, he's clearly one of the most powerful characters in the MCU. I'm arguing that he's less powerful than Surtur, Odin and Hela from what I've read so far. I'll re-judge that position once I've seen Ragnarok. And he's clearly less powerful than Dormammu who is undoubtedly the most powerful character we've seen yet.
Ego is so tough to guage. He is a space Brain. We gotta remember that, a floating OP space brain that "built" a planet around himself. It's not a real planet, it's created matter.

So Ego can create matter locally on a planetary scale, but he isn't more than that..which is why I would place him at the top of my transcendent tier

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Created the first MCU battle between Dormammu and Eson the Searcher ( Celestial). I don't want to use Odin, Surtur or Dr. Strange yet, since their appearance in Thor Ragnarok might effect peoples decision on their power levels. After a week I will start another battle and slowly build a tier list that everyone will have had a chance to provide input and effect the outcome. I hope this will be fun, but also create an accurate tier structure. Spread the word. Link to the battle below.

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Hey Surfer. I am going to requote my initial post that I made, maybe you can paste it in your OP or something.

I really like the tier format I created, put some thought into it, so if everyone agrees, I think we should use the tiers that I have bolded.. suggestions of course. But for organization/categorization's sake, I think this is it (categories..placement is up for discussion)

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I'd say more like this (perhaps we could create tier labels)

Cosmic Tier (cosmic/interdimension level power/presence on a planetary scale, at the minimum)
Dormammu
Surtur
Odin
Doctor Strange (with time gem..reality hack)

Transcendent Tier (City to planetary level power & Cosmic/interdimensional level influence on a local scale?)
Ego
Odin(?)
Eson The Searcher
Ronan (w/power gem)
Thanos (I'm guessing will fall here)
Hela
Kurse (Another brick, but his strength and durability and utter domination places him above the power house tier)
Ultron Prime (his vibranium body made this an implication)


Powerhouse Tier (Beyond top tier, power/interdimensional power on a block to city Level)
Thor
Doctor Strange
Malekith (With reality gem)
Ancient One
Vision
Hulk (stamina and strength make up for lack in versatility)
Hulkbuster Iron man

Top Tier (Street to block level?)
Ronan
Loki (w/ or w/out scepter)
Iron Man
Scarlet Witch (tough to place)
Quake
Malekith

Superhuman Tier (Street Level)
Spiderman
Captain America
Black Panther
Winter Soldier
Ant Man
Crossbones
Falcon
Quicksilver
Iron Fist
Luke Cage
Jessica Jones

Street Tier (non super human, agent level)
Daredevil
Black Widow
Hawkeye

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Hey Surfer. I am going to requote my initial post that I made, maybe you can paste it in your OP or something.

I really like the tier format I created, put some thought into it, so if everyone agrees, I think we should use the tiers that I have bolded.. suggestions of course. But for organization/categorization's sake, I think this is it (categories..placement is up for discussion)
Agreed! and again I think you did an amazing job of placement of the characters in the tiers as well. The whole thing that makes it so difficult though is that it can be very subjective. Thats why I hope to use not my opinion, not your opinion or someone elses opinion, but a group majority opinion of all fans that want to participate. I am hoping this will give these character locations on the tier list some Merritt and give it a sense of being as factual as it can be.

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