Superman vs. Captain Marvel

[Arkady Rossovich]

Im going to say Superman,especially if it was Pre-Crisis.I had once heard that Captian Marvel was another company`s version of Superman until DC bought the rights to Captian Marvel.

[Harlekin]

You heard wrong.

[flash gordon]

Originally Posted by Varient

Is the fight between the two from JLU on dvd yet?

http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...=search_videos


CM should have enough wisdom to know that kryptonite will kill superman......CM WINS EASILY. that JLU crap is just that, crap......I wonder why they are always fighting.....aren't they both great superheros for good.........its like DC has always had a complex about CM so they have to make it appear that their flagship(SM) is mighter than the rivals(1940's rival)flagship(CM) every chance they get and in fact, has never forgetten that CM was a legit threat to overtake SM.

[Batmanx]

Lets keep it REAL CM. can not match Superman n STRENGHT/SPEED or ABILITIES...Captain Marvel have the strenght of Hercules (which he is half Human/God) that makes him a Demi God...The Human side of him makes him that much weaker..The ONLY thing that give CM. a lil. change of getting good punches n is the MAGIC HITS & the Lighting Bolts...CM have the speed of Mercury BIG DEAL, Superman is FASTER then that...In the long run it will b a good cute fight , but Superman will take him down...

If u wish 2 c a good fight , then it should b Wonder Woman and Superman..
She is WAY stronger then Hercules and CM..People r always SLEEPING on WW. and her strenght and SKILLS... WW is just a lil. bit low then Superman n Strenght and thats why they say she is ONLY SECOND TO SUPERMAN..Her fighting skills is better then Superman and CM..

And by the way Captain Marvel share his power with Mary Marvel & CMJr.. So that alone is going to make CM weaker against Superman,WonderWoman and Martain Manhunter and Supergirl...Lets get real CM need to SIT DN and play n his COLORING BOOKS...

[Toby_Temple]

Superman is also mortal(remember guys. he can die and he did died). So if Captain Marvel is the mightiest mortal, the he is stronger than Superman. Its that simple.

[supermarvelman]

How-bout Pre-Crisis Superman vs Post-Inf Crisis Captain Marvel

I say Captain Marvel

Captain Marvel right now would definetly take Superman. Let's talk about the level of power these characters have currently (post-OYL), not pre-crisis ****. Thats like saying prep-time.

[supermarvelman]

Originally Posted by Batmanx

Lets keep it REAL CM. can not match Superman n STRENGHT/SPEED or ABILITIES...Captain Marvel have the strenght of Hercules (which he is half Human/God) that makes him a Demi God...The Human side of him makes him that much weaker..The ONLY thing that give CM. a lil. change of getting good punches n is the MAGIC HITS & the Lighting Bolts...CM have the speed of Mercury BIG DEAL, Superman is FASTER then that...In the long run it will b a good cute fight , but Superman will take him down...

If u wish 2 c a good fight , then it should b Wonder Woman and Superman..
She is WAY stronger then Hercules and CM..People r always SLEEPING on WW. and her strenght and SKILLS... WW is just a lil. bit low then Superman n Strenght and thats why they say she is ONLY SECOND TO SUPERMAN..Her fighting skills is better then Superman and CM..

And by the way Captain Marvel share his power with Mary Marvel & CMJr.. So that alone is going to make CM weaker against Superman,WonderWoman and Martain Manhunter and Supergirl...Lets get real CM need to SIT DN and play n his COLORING BOOKS...

I dont think thats the case anymore.

Plus MM and CMjr would probably power down if SM and CM where fighting.

[Harlekin]

Originally Posted by Batmanx

Lets keep it REAL CM. can not match Superman n STRENGHT/SPEED or ABILITIES...Captain Marvel have the strenght of Hercules (which he is half Human/God) that makes him a Demi God...The Human side of him makes him that much weaker..The ONLY thing that give CM. a lil. change of getting good punches n is the MAGIC HITS & the Lighting Bolts...CM have the speed of Mercury BIG DEAL, Superman is FASTER then that...In the long run it will b a good cute fight , but Superman will take him down...

If u wish 2 c a good fight , then it should b Wonder Woman and Superman..
She is WAY stronger then Hercules and CM..People r always SLEEPING on WW. and her strenght and SKILLS... WW is just a lil. bit low then Superman n Strenght and thats why they say she is ONLY SECOND TO SUPERMAN..Her fighting skills is better then Superman and CM..

And by the way Captain Marvel share his power with Mary Marvel & CMJr.. So that alone is going to make CM weaker against Superman,WonderWoman and Martain Manhunter and Supergirl...Lets get real CM need to SIT DN and play n his COLORING BOOKS...

Yeah, except CM has consequently been shown to either equal or dominate Supes.

[supermarvelman]

Atleast equal, atleast.

[Varient]

Originally Posted by flash gordon

http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...=search_videos


CM should have enough wisdom to know that kryptonite will kill superman......CM WINS EASILY. that JLU crap is just that, crap......I wonder why they are always fighting.....aren't they both great superheros for good.........its like DC has always had a complex about CM so they have to make it appear that their flagship(SM) is mighter than the rivals(1940's rival)flagship(CM) every chance they get and in fact, has never forgetten that CM was a legit threat to overtake SM.

Thank you very much for the link.

I think the fight was credible,.. on three occasions it could've gone either way.

[supermarvelman]

Agree with Flash Gordon, it is like DC has a complex against Captain Marvel, even to this day they have to make Superman the brighter light out of the two.

To me it's like DC is the head coach of a football team and Superman is the coach's son, Captain Marvel is like the guy who is just as good as the son probably even better, but never starts because he's not the coach's son. He only gets put in in the fourth quarter when the other team is getting there heads kicked in.

[lokisixnine]

superman

[Silicon Surfer]

If the issue posted above is the one think it is they established in it that Supes and CM are almost exact equals in strength, speed, and invulnerability. CM has the advantage in that he has no weaknesses and Supes has the advantage in that he has powers that CM doesn't like heat vision, super breath, etc. This however was the Silver Age and isn't really relevant unless you assume that unless otherwise stated all powers are still proportionally the same as they were but simply scaled down to fit current overall power levels

[supermarvelman]

The current versions of each character right now. Superman would get spanked like a lil *****.

[Speedball]

Captain Marvel is the Mightiest Mortal, but there's the a problem with one of those words- Mortal, which means he is defeatable.
Superman will win, CM might be mighty, but he is mortal.

[Toby_Temple]

Originally Posted by SpeedballLives

Captain Marvel is the Mightiest Mortal, but there's the a problem with one of those words- Mortal, which means he is defeatable.
Superman will win, CM might be mighty, but he is mortal.

Oh dear!
Mortal means the opposite of Immortal. So a mortal is someone who could die. Can Superman die? YES. He already died, remember. So that makes Superman MORTAL.

Captain Marvel is the Mightiest Mortal. That technically means his stronger than any mortal there is, including Superman. Another reason why Superman will lose to Marvel is because of the nature of his powers, which are mystical in nature. Remember that one of Superman's weaknesses is mystical/magical powers. That alone is enough reason to believe that Captain Marvel can beat Superman anytime.

[Extra #6 in BB]

Captain Marvel was more powerful, and the Superman writers knew it. That's why they sued.

[Sloth7d]

Superman (not holding back) beats Marvel in a few hits.
Case closed.

[Union Jack]

i'm gonna say superman.
simply because (and i know its a knida weak argument) its superman....he always finds a way.
he is the ultimate hero....cap's just a pale imitation...
i wish supes could lose his magic vunerability...if not for that he would spam cap all over the place....

[chuckymack]

What part of 'equals' don't you understand?! The wizard's dead, and Cap can't change back to Billy, so there goes the whole 'trick him into saying it' routine.
And Cap being a pale imitation is probably the most ill-researched statement in this whole thread, which is quite an accomplishment!
DC gave Superman his x-ray vision, heat vision, cold breath and flight in an effort to make him superior to Captain Marvel. Cap could fly from the get-go. Supes couldn't. Cap could call down lightning from the get-go. Supes had no heat rays. If anything, modern Superman is an imitation of Captain Marvel with a few extra powers just to increase sales. If Fawcett and Whiz Comics had more money to fight the lawsuits, it'd be Captain Marvel's fifth movie in theatres, not Superman's.

[Aptman]

Originally Posted by Toby_Temple

Oh dear!
Mortal means the opposite of Immortal. So a mortal is someone who could die. Can Superman die? YES. He already died, remember. So that makes Superman MORTAL.

Captain Marvel is the Mightiest Mortal. That technically means his stronger than any mortal there is, including Superman. Another reason why Superman will lose to Marvel is because of the nature of his powers, which are mystical in nature. Remember that one of Superman's weaknesses is mystical/magical powers. That alone is enough reason to believe that Captain Marvel can beat Superman anytime.

Saying Captain Marvel is stronger because he is the “World’s Mightiest Mortal” is like saying a refrigerator magnet would stick to Superman because he’s the “Man of Steel”.

It’s just a title given to the guy to show he’s really powerful. Even if the title was canon proof that he is this world’s (Earth’s) mightiest mortal, you could still argue that Superman isn’t of this world (he’s the “Last Son of Krypton”).

Marvel’s powers come from gods….that aren’t gods in the sense that they created the Universe, but in that they were mortals that gained power by an outside source and have earth people worship them because earth people think they created this world and everything in it. So, basically, they are aliens with superpowers…Sounds kind of like Superman, who is constantly getting stronger (to the point he could someday become basically immortal, and not be affected by kryptonite).

Superman has a weakness to magic. But it’s not like he falls to his knees in weakness because he’s touching an item lased in magical energy, it just means that a magic spell could actually have affect on him (like being turned into a lion…its happened). Marvel’s lightening would have a greater affect on Superman because it’s magically based, but that doesn’t mean Superman can’t fight against it or overcome it.

Superman is DC’s baby. DC decides who’s stronger. There will always be times where they’ll try to promote a character by making him seem more powerful than others, or where they try to make the character seem more human by weakening him. But when it comes down to it, Superman will come out on top.

[flash gordon]

Originally Posted by chuckymack

What part of 'equals' don't you understand?! The wizard's dead, and Cap can't change back to Billy, so there goes the whole 'trick him into saying it' routine.
And Cap being a pale imitation is probably the most ill-researched statement in this whole thread, which is quite an accomplishment!
DC gave Superman his x-ray vision, heat vision, cold breath and flight in an effort to make him superior to Captain Marvel. Cap could fly from the get-go. Supes couldn't. Cap could call down lightning from the get-go. Supes had no heat rays. If anything, modern Superman is an imitation of Captain Marvel with a few extra powers just to increase sales. If Fawcett and Whiz Comics had more money to fight the lawsuits, it'd be Captain Marvel's fifth movie in theatres, not Superman's.

I agree 100%.

[Toby_Temple]

Originally Posted by Aptman

Saying Captain Marvel is stronger because he is the “World’s Mightiest Mortal” is like saying a refrigerator magnet would stick to Superman because he’s the “Man of Steel”.

But it was already proven that Superman is not made of steel. Get what I'm saying? Captain Marvel was shown capable of beating Superman when he wanted to.

Originally Posted by Aptman

It’s just a title given to the guy to show he’s really powerful. Even if the title was canon proof that he is this world’s (Earth’s) mightiest mortal, you could still argue that Superman isn’t of this world (he’s the “Last Son of Krypton”).

And where is Superman right now? In Krypton? LOL! He is in Earth, and even though he is in Earth, Marvel is still the World's(Earth's) Mightiest Mortal.

Originally Posted by Aptman

Marvel’s powers come from gods….that aren’t gods in the sense that they created the Universe, but in that they were mortals that gained power by an outside source and have earth people worship them because earth people think they created this world and everything in it. So, basically, they are aliens with superpowers…Sounds kind of like Superman, who is constantly getting stronger (to the point he could someday become basically immortal, and not be affected by kryptonite).

Superman constanly getting stronger? Right. Make up more imaginary abilities for Supes just to make an arguement. Marvel was the first super strong hero who can fly and move at amazing speed than Supes while Superman was just a high-jumping superhero until DC decided to copy Marvel's powers and add them to Supes.

Originally Posted by Aptman

Superman has a weakness to magic. But it’s not like he falls to his knees in weakness because he’s touching an item lased in magical energy, it just means that a magic spell could actually have affect on him (like being turned into a lion…its happened). Marvel’s lightening would have a greater affect on Superman because it’s magically based, but that doesn’t mean Superman can’t fight against it or overcome it.

Nope. Superman can hurt himself if he punches a magical barrier and can be hurt by superstrong magical beings. His invulnerbility is useless against magic.

Originally Posted by Aptman

Superman is DC’s baby. DC decides who’s stronger. There will always be times where they’ll try to promote a character by making him seem more powerful than others, or where they try to make the character seem more human by weakening him. But when it comes down to it, Superman will come out on top.

Yes. And DC decided that Captain Marvel can beat him anytime if he wanted to. Case close, fanboy.

[Toby_Temple]

Originally Posted by Sloth7d

Superman (not holding back) beats Marvel in a few hits.
Case closed.

Captain Marvel(not holding back) can literally kill Superman. Case closed.

[The Leaguer]

Superman has super-strength. He would win.