🇷🇺🇺🇦 Discussion: Relations with Russia and the war in Ukraine

[Mani-Man]

Putin doesn't really want a war with NATO because 'Russia will lose and lose quickly,' UK military chief says

Russia would be seriously outclassed by NATO's land, sea, and air forces in a conflict and would lose fast, the UK's Admiral Sir Tony Radakin said.

www.businessinsider.com

Of course he doesnt.
Everyone with a brain knows that his constant threats that if this or that is done, is just empty.
He didnt do anything big when the sanctions hit, when the ammunition etc was delivered...despite claiming so.

Again, he didnt manage to take the Ukraine in 2 years despite being prepared and surprising them.
His super Battle Ships have been ruined, the super high tech arsenal he always showed around...is not existing to wage war, and he has to rely on cheap drones.
And he doesnt have Chinas 100% support because guess what, countries like china and russia do not trust someone fully.

There is not angle where War with the NATO would be in his favor.

 

[DA_Champion]

Of course he doesnt.
Everyone with a brain knows that his constant threats that if this or that is done, is just empty.
He didnt do anything big when the sanctions hit, when the ammunition etc was delivered...despite claiming so.

Again, he didnt manage to take the Ukraine in 2 years despite being prepared and surprising them.
His super Battle Ships have been ruined, the super high tech arsenal he always showed around...is not existing to wage war, and he has to rely on cheap drones.
And he doesnt have Chinas 100% support because guess what, countries like china and russia do not trust someone fully.

There is not angle where War with the NATO would be in his favor.

I think these levels of cope will end should a NATO-Russia war hit a mature stage. Right now the losses to NATO are abstract: diplomatic weakness in the global south, deindustrialization of Germany, mercenaries dying, higher inflation in the USA, etc. These are the sorts of things many people can comfortably ignore, particularly on social media.

It will change when our brothers, sons, cousins, etc are being shipped to war, as happened in the 1960s.

Lastly, world war III is also being fought in multiple theaters. It's unlikely that the Palestinians, Lebanese, and Yemenis would be able to stand up to genocidal onslaughts under total Western hegemony. Look what happened to Iraq (which Biden supported), and contrast to Yemen defying the US and British Navy. And Gabon and Niger would have not been able to boot France.

 

[blueharvest]

Of course he doesnt.
Everyone with a brain knows that his constant threats that if this or that is done, is just empty.
He didnt do anything big when the sanctions hit, when the ammunition etc was delivered...despite claiming so.

Again, he didnt manage to take the Ukraine in 2 years despite being prepared and surprising them.
His super Battle Ships have been ruined, the super high tech arsenal he always showed around...is not existing to wage war, and he has to rely on cheap drones.
And he doesnt have Chinas 100% support because guess what, countries like china and russia do not trust someone fully.

There is not angle where War with the NATO would be in his favor.

I hope you're right. Just as long as Putin doesn't decide to use nuclear weapons as a last resort or anything like that.

 

[blueharvest]

Ukraine war: Germany under pressure to explain intercepted phone call

In the call, senior air force officials discuss the pitfalls of supplying German-made Taurus missiles to Ukraine.

www.bbc.com

 

[squeekness]

General Staff: Russia has lost 417,950 troops in Ukraine since Feb. 24, 2022

This number includes 1,150 casualties Russian forces suffered just over the past day.

kyivindependent.com

And still Putin pushes on.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Retired Army officer charged with sharing classified information about Ukraine on foreign dating site

"Beloved Dave, do NATO and Biden have a secret plan to help us," an unnamed person asked retired Army officer David Slater in one message.

www.cbsnews.com

Dear connected and important men, your ego will betray you. You were likely told this before. Lonely pretty Russian or Ukrainian woman buttering you up is not your new lady friend, stop thinking otherwise. This kind of tradecraft is one of the oldest in the book.

 

[blueharvest]

And still Putin pushes on.

I guess he can't accept defeat.

 

[Sithborg]

I think these levels of cope will end should a NATO-Russia war hit a mature stage. Right now the losses to NATO are abstract: diplomatic weakness in the global south, deindustrialization of Germany, mercenaries dying, higher inflation in the USA, etc. These are the sorts of things many people can comfortably ignore, particularly on social media.

It will change when our brothers, sons, cousins, etc are being shipped to war, as happened in the 1960s.

Lastly, world war III is also being fought in multiple theaters. It's unlikely that the Palestinians, Lebanese, and Yemenis would be able to stand up to genocidal onslaughts under total Western hegemony. Look what happened to Iraq (which Biden supported), and contrast to Yemen defying the US and British Navy. And Gabon and Niger would have not been able to boot France.

The **** you talking about WW3.

****ing tankies....

 

[DA_Champion]

The **** you talking about WW3.

You'll see it eventually.

You know, at the start of world war I, people thought that it was a great idea and would be over soon.

 

[:eek:]

‘People don’t want to vote’ How the Kremlin plans to compensate for Russians’ record-low interest in the country’s upcoming election — Meduza

The Russian authorities have a dilemma, according to Meduza’s sources: with less suspense than ever about who will win the country’s presidential election later this month, voter interest is historically low. And because Russia is currently facing a labor shortage, “corporate mobilization”...

meduza.io

 

[blueharvest]

The demise of Russian artillery may well be in sight

Russian Artillery When will it be silenced? Given the recent uptick of destroyed Russian artillery, how long will they be able to sustain quality & quantity of their army’s backbone? Will the claws of the Russian bear be broken anytime soon?...

www.dailykos.com

 

[squeekness]

The demise of Russian artillery may well be in sight

Russian Artillery When will it be silenced? Given the recent uptick of destroyed Russian artillery, how long will they be able to sustain quality & quantity of their army’s backbone? Will the claws of the Russian bear be broken anytime soon?...

www.dailykos.com

I hope this happens. Ukraine needs all the help it can get.

 

[DA_Champion]

I'm pleasantly surprised by Victoria Nuland's "retirement" -- I didn't see that coming. She was America's number 2 diplomat under Biden and is only 63 years old.

Nuland is the American official most responsible for the current catastrophe in the Ukraine. She famously said "[redacted] the EU" when the US overthrew Ukraine's democracy in 2014 and replaced it with a NATO puppet regime. A million deaths and a geopolitical catastrophe for the West are her legacy.

Normally, people like her only fail upwards. Her departure seems like a ray of sunshine on a cloudy horizon.

 

[blueharvest]

 

[:eek:]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/03/06/russia-ukraine-zelensky-missile-strike-odessa/

 

[squeekness]

That's scary.

 

[DA_Champion]

That's scary.

I read the article and there's no substantive evidence in there.

I also think there's no point in weaponizing the moon. Going there has three purposes:
- Prestige. It's the global equivalent of a beautiful peacock's tail.
- Mining.
- Scientific experiments. Hard astrophysics and particle physics. It's the best place for ultraviolet and radio telescopes.

 

[squeekness]

I think down the road moon mining will be a big deal, especially since they think there may be a lot of water at the poles.

 

[:eek:]

Mystery GPS jamming on NATO borders fomenting "atmosphere of threat"

Satellite signal interference has become a daily problem over the northern European region amid the West's showdown with Russia.

www.newsweek.com

 

[InCali]

I think down the road moon mining will be a big deal, especially since they think there may be a lot of water at the poles.

Unless there is some exceedingly light and valuable mineral, or whatever, on the moon that we don't have on earth, mining will probably be constrained to use there. Shipping, in the foreseeable future, isn't really an option. I can see the ability to colonize both the moon and Mars to some extent, but I can't see concluding that power mongers won't find some use of space, and bases therein, to further their aims of riches and power through the use of force and coercion.

 

[blueharvest]

Conservatives need to defend Ukraine at this critical moment in history

Imagine a world where a free Ukraine and Taiwan are sacrificed to despots on the altar of America’s foreign-policy realism and narrowly calculated self-interest. It would mark the end of the rules-…

thehill.com

 

[blueharvest]

Russia uses facial recognition to detain Navalny funeral attendees | Semafor

Russia is using facial recognition technology to arrest people who attended the opposition leader’s funeral, an NGO said.

www.semafor.com

 

[DA_Champion]

Conservatives need to defend Ukraine at this critical moment in history

Imagine a world where a free Ukraine and Taiwan are sacrificed to despots on the altar of America’s foreign-policy realism and narrowly calculated self-interest. It would mark the end of the rules-…

thehill.com

The USA was never going to be able the rule the planet forever. The American empire might have lasted longer had it had better leadership than Clinton, Bush, etc but that ship has sailed, and any talk of the US imposing its will at the other end of the world on Russia, China, Iran, etc is simply delusional White supremacy.

The focus at this point should be better relations with the rest of the world and rebuilding the Republic at home. American is falling apart, with declining life expectancy, increasing infant mortality, high inflation, poor educational standards, crumbling infrastructure, rising crime, etc. To anybody who is not sheltered, those are more important priorities than taking longer to lose a war in Ukraine.

I speak as a hardworking father of a young family. I see some of the real issues. There's endless paperwork for any appointment with the health system, some claims take years to resolve with insurance. At my kids' school, a kid punched a pregnant teacher in the stomach. When I drive a younger daughter to daycare which costs over $1000/month and would cost 2400/month for an infant, there are car accidents every day. Meanwhile the cost of food rises 10-20% a year. At least I bought my house when I did, because just in the past few years the cost of a mortgage on it has tripled.

These are real problems. But our sheltered elites are pampered, they live in bubbles, and they're focused on ... Ukraine and Taiwan. Just WTF. The country around them is falling apart, but they don't care, they have their Raytheon stock to worry about.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Website for U.S. Embassy in Russia Goes Down After Cryptic Warning of Terrorist Threat

"Extremists have imminent plans to target large gatherings in Moscow," according to the State Department.

gizmodo.com

UK to send 10,000 drones to Ukraine

The drones come as part of a new £325 million military aid package.

www.politico.eu

Macron declares French support for Ukraine has no bounds or red lines

Read more

newsukraine.rbc.ua

Macron states 'unwavering support' for Moldova in face of Russian menace

Moldovan President Maia Sandu made a visit to Paris to sign a bilateral defense deal with France.

www.lemonde.fr

Sweden becomes NATO’s 32nd member as PM visits Washington

The accession of Sweden and Finland — which shares an 830-mile border with Russia — is the most significant expansion of the Western military alliance for decades.

www.nbcnews.com

Make our NATO team as big and powerful as possible I say, our enemies in the new Axis Powers dictatorships aren't waiting around.

 

[squeekness]

Website for U.S. Embassy in Russia Goes Down After Cryptic Warning of Terrorist Threat

"Extremists have imminent plans to target large gatherings in Moscow," according to the State Department.

gizmodo.com

UK to send 10,000 drones to Ukraine

The drones come as part of a new £325 million military aid package.

www.politico.eu

Macron declares French support for Ukraine has no bounds or red lines

Read more

newsukraine.rbc.ua

Macron states 'unwavering support' for Moldova in face of Russian menace

Moldovan President Maia Sandu made a visit to Paris to sign a bilateral defense deal with France.

www.lemonde.fr

Sweden becomes NATO’s 32nd member as PM visits Washington

The accession of Sweden and Finland — which shares an 830-mile border with Russia — is the most significant expansion of the Western military alliance for decades.

www.nbcnews.com

Make our NATO team as big and powerful as possible I say, our enemies in the new Axis Powers dictatorships aren't waiting around.

Agreed, along with making sure we don't end up with a dictator here at home.