#1 Focus: Family Comes First!

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FOCUS: Forever and Always FAMILY

As I look around this forum, I see that we have begun what I hope Fox does not, and that is lose focus of what the Fantastic Four are all about. As a new fan to this COMIC, the thing that I connected with first and foremost was the familial aspects of the writing from the very beginning issues to the present. What sets this superhero team apart from all other superhero teams is that their strongest force is relationship. That was touched on in the first movie, but if not embedded in this franchise NOW, I feel that what makes the Fantastic Four, Fantastic will be lost. There are so many relationships that have been strengthened in its 40 year run. Not only relationships with the 4 themselves, but relationships with people that were once enemies and now are major allies. BUT I want to Focus on the Family part of this franchise.
  • Reed and Sue (husband and wife)
  • Ben and Reed (lifelong friends)
  • Sue and Johnny (brother and sister)\
  • Sue and Ben (to me one of the sweetest relationships in comicdom)
  • Ben and Johnny (comrades and combatants)
What gives this team their true strength?
What differentiates them from other comic book superheroes?
What brings in a wide demographic?
What can bring humor and drama into a 4 minute scene and make it special?
What can give their action in this movie, meaning?

Where should the Focus truly be?


To me the Focus should be family? And that is what this thread is all about…

Points of discussion:
  • Relationships among the 4
  • Outside relationships
  • Children
  • Time given to this aspect of the movie
  • Strongest relationship to build on
  • Favorite relationship scenes in the first movie to build from
  • Favorite comic book relationship moments
  • And of course any others related to our topic
Please keep the discussion respectful for all to be a part, whether you are a comic fan, fan of an actor, fan of the movie…you are welcome to give your thoughts on this subject, but please be respectful of all opinions.

They are Superheros, Celebrities, but first and foremost
they are
Family!







This is what the Fantastic Four are all about!

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Who said they we're going to forget about the family aspect ? Did not Avi say It's been 2 years ? What's going on in their lives ? What issues do they have yet to deal with ? Forgetting family is far from his or Storys mind. And in the interview with Payne, he realized that family is what the FF is about. Are you saying it can't be amped up, faster paced, more intense, without loosing the family aspect ? Will 3 villians, lose that family touch ?
 
Carp Man said:
Who said they we're going to forget about the family aspect ? Did not Avi say It's been 2 years ? What's going on in their lives ? What issues do they have yet to deal with ? Forgetting family is far from his or Storys mind. And in the interview with Payne, he realized that family is what the FF is about. Are you saying it can't be amped up, faster paced, more intense, without loosing the family aspect ? Will 3 villians, lose that family touch ?

Read the post again, my point is to us here on this forum....not necessarily Story, Payne, and others involved in the movie.....read...

Let the drama drive the action....so to speak...
 
Excellent thread:up:

I agree,although it is very cool have Silver Surfer in the sequel the 4 themselves should be the centre of the piece and i hope that Fox remember this

Scenes i would like to see Time given to is scenes where we see them living as a regular family with a twist,this is where the dysfunctional super-family could really be mined for some great fun

One relationship i want to see built more is Ben/Sue,it was barely touched on in the first movie but we know Ben has a soft spot for Suzie and she can talk to him like none of the other scan,he opens up to her,i would like to see this in the sequel

As for Kids,Sue being pregnant in this one would be another nice layer to the story IMO
 
Strongest relationship to build on - Reed and Sue, show that they are the worlds strongest couple, no doubting their relationship!
 
Well in the upcoming Civil War arc they will be doubting their relationship.....but yes definitely that relationship needs to be strengthened...
 
this thread should be topped since it represents the atmosphere the forum should have. families can debate, discuss and share opinions while staying respectful and reasonable considering others viewpoints.
 
surfergirl said:
this thread should be topped since it represents the atmosphere the forum should have. families can debate, discuss and share opinions while staying respectful and reasonable considering others viewpoints.

great post:up:
 
:up: Some of my favorite moments from the comics were when they were just doing "normal" things.

You felt that this was a real, likable group of people, and that made the action and danger much more intense.

The first film spent a lot of focus on the conflicts, and now that that's out of the way, I hope they can spend some more time focusing on the positive, loving elements. . .



. . . before Galactus shows up to eat the world.
 
eh, the family aspects will be there. so why worry. I'd rather talk about the story not sucking. Or atleast something different. And that first post doesn't need that many pics or big font.
 
zer00 said:
eh, the family aspects will be there. so why worry. I'd rather talk about the story not sucking. Or atleast something different. And that first post doesn't need that many pics or big font.

Damn zer00 who pissed in your wheaties today....???

In my opinion it wasn't near strong enough in the first movie, and my hope is that it will be in the next......the story WILL SUCK, if the family focus is not there.....and it won't automatically be there unless its written in the story.....you don't like the thread, don't post in it...very simple....
 
They had the relationships down by the end of the first movie. Sue is the glue that holds everything together. Johnny and Ben are brothers who will bug each other and fight with each other to no end, but they always stand up for one another in the end.

Reed is the leader, but he gets his strength to lead from Sue. Reed has Ben's respect from college, and their past friendship. But Reed needs Sue to help keep Johnny in check.
 
Tony Stark said:
They had the relationships down by the end of the first movie. Sue is the glue that holds everything together. Johnny and Ben are brothers who will bug each other and fight with each other to no end, but they always stand up for one another in the end.

Reed is the leader, but he gets his strength to lead from Sue. Reed has Ben's respect from college, and their past friendship. But Reed needs Sue to help keep Johnny in check.


Thats cool, I respect your opinion, I just don't necessarily agree with it....I think it was a very shallow look at their personalities and relationships....I would like to see a deeper look, and more exposition to develop it....
 

This cast seems to truly enjoy working with each other, and in my opinion came across on the big screen....this can definitely help in creating a strong cohesive looking and acting family.
 
I still hope the family is the focus, unfortunately, Jessica's recent comments hint towards something I hoped would not happen and that is a movie hitting more on one character than the others. In my opinion we already had a movie that did that....i don't want another one.......

The one thing I do hope, and actually pretty much feel about her comments is the fact that she loves the character of Sue, and is just excited about some of the things Sue gets to do......my hope is that the balance is right and family is the focus.
 
I think they captured the family aspect very well in FF.

If you're saying they should continue with it in FF2,I agree.If you're saying that it wasn't present in FF1 then I must have a bone to pick with thee. :D
 
GNR4Life said:
I think they captured the family aspect very well in FF.

If you're saying they should continue with it in FF2,I agree.If you're saying that it wasn't present in FF1 then I must have a bone to pick with thee. :D

Thou art reading words into my post.....Thou should read again....:)


It was there, in my opinion, sporadically. It should be built upon in a much stronger manner......in my opinion.
 
JMAfan said:
Thou art reading words into my post.....Thou should read again....:)


It was there, in my opinion, sporadically. It should be built upon in a much stronger manner......in my opinion.

I stand corrected by thee.:up:
 
I guess in this case Quaker = polite discussion......lol
 
Could Sue being pregnant be part of the ending of this movie and setup for the 3rd installment? Also even though they have said the SS and Galactus are in the movie will they also be used as a setup for the 3rd movie. We still don't know who the third Villian is. How much will Doom play in this film?
 
TheDarkestAngel said:
Could Sue being pregnant be part of the ending of this movie and setup for the 3rd installment? Also even though they have said the SS and Galactus are in the movie will they also be used as a setup for the 3rd movie. We still don't know who the third Villian is. How much will Doom play in this film?

All q's with no answers. We'll just wait and see.
 
TheDarkestAngel said:
Could Sue being pregnant be part of the ending of this movie and setup for the 3rd installment? Also even though they have said the SS and Galactus are in the movie will they also be used as a setup for the 3rd movie. We still don't know who the third Villian is. How much will Doom play in this film?

I assume we may get some glimpse of Galactus at the end, or something indicating that he is threatening the Earth. Much like the Jean Grey nod to Phoenix at the end of X2.
 
JMAfan said:


This cast seems to truly enjoy working with each other, and in my opinion came across on the big screen....this can definitely help in creating a strong cohesive looking and acting family.

i agree and i think the family aspect will be upheld in the sequel. i want to see more scenes with them doing normal things like eating breakfast together in the first movie. that is why i enjoyed the montage in the movie where they showed clips of them all trying to adjust to living under 1 roof.
 
surfergirl said:
i agree and i think the family aspect will be upheld in the sequel. i want to see more scenes with them doing normal things like eating breakfast together in the first movie. that is why i enjoyed the montage in the movie where they showed clips of them all trying to adjust to living under 1 roof.

I hope so, but what we've heard so far is worrying me slightly....
 

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