10.10 - Luthor - Discussion Thread (Spoilers)

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Written By: Bryan Q. Miller
Guest Stars:
John Glover (Lionel Luthor)
UPDATED 9/30/10: Entertainment Weekly's Ausiello is reporting that the tenth episode of the new season is called "Luthor" and the Luthor in question is Lionel.

http://www.kryptonsite.com/smallvillespoilers.htm
 
cant wait to see how lionel is around for the episode and the plotline for it.
 
well we dont know how lionel's stuff with be done, will it be flashbacks to a time prior to him being killed, will it be a vision/ghost like thing with jonathon kent was or will he be a clone or something?
 
There was a rumor that this is the episode that Tess finds out she related to Lex somehow. Cassidy did say in an interview before the season started that we would find out a big secret about Tess later in the season.
 
i saw that rumor but they didnt specify where it came from. I doubt tess will be luthor. also i thought it was stated she would have a connection to granny goodness.
 
I can't wait to have Glover back, rumor has it their's going to be two Lionel's (The Good One Season 4-7) and (The evil MB from season 1-3) I'm guessing the bad one is a clone Lex created .
 
The rumor is that Tess is Lionel's lovechild with another woman, from some affair (akin to the OC Season 2).

I don't believe it yet because it was on CBM, and they are garbage.
 
I can't wait to have Glover back, rumor has it their's going to be two Lionel's (The Good One Season 4-7) and (The evil MB from season 1-3) I'm guessing the bad one is a clone Lex created .
Really, well that could be interesting. I know there was an interview where they included Lionel in a list of returning villains, but I would love to see Glover in a dual-role. Twice the fun. :woot:
 
If Lionel is returning back to life, things would be interesting considering the little Alexander clone.

Lionel getting a second chance with Lex? Hmm.
 
That would be interesting. I wonder if the two will meet.

Though, on a side note, I don't understand the whole Tess taking care of little Lex hoping to keep him from becoming evil thing. I though Lex turned evil because of how he was treated by Lionel, mixed with how the relationship with Clark turned out. He wasn't born evil, unless they're going the route that this kid has all those memories still and deep down inside he is evil but is hiding it in his childhood innocence.
 
The clone WILL have those memories as he ages... just as old Lex did.
 
The rumor is that Tess is Lionel's lovechild with another woman, from some affair (akin to the OC Season 2).

I don't believe it yet because it was on CBM, and they are garbage.

I hope that's not true.
 
If there are two Lionels, you know at the end, there could be only one magnificent bastard. :woot:

Either he comes back via flashbacks, which increases the chances of Tess being her daughter or he's a clone.
 
i'm so confused about this whole lex luthor story arc.

i'm guessing the plan is to return lex back ala michael rosenbaum, and if that fails...er...something else?:huh:
 
i'm so confused about this whole lex luthor story arc.

i'm guessing the plan is to return lex back ala michael rosenbaum, and if that fails...er...something else?:huh:

Ok, Well I'm guessing your not familar with Lex's cloning storyarc from the comics and that's why this is confussing to you .

Well I hope my explanation helps.

In the 1990's revamp of the Superman comics

Lex Luthor acquires the only known sample of Green Kryptonite on Earth at the time from the Kryptonite-powered cyborg Metallo, whom LexCorp abducted just before Metallo almost succeeded in killing Superman. Lex pulls the Kryptonite out of Corben's chest violently remarking if anyone was going to kill Superman it would be him no one else .
Lex then Fashions a ring from the alien ore deadly to Superman, Luthor began wearing it constantly to ward off his enemy.

Unfortunately, Luthor began to suffered from a severe cancer in the 1990s, caused by long-term radiation exposure from his kryptonite ring. (Before Man of Steel, kryptonite exposure had not been thought to be harmful to non-Kryptonian life forms).
Luthor's hand had to be amputated to prevent the cancer's spread, but unfortunately by then it had already metastasized; it was eventually determined that the disease was terminal.

Lex Luthor faked his own death shortly afterward by taking his personally designed jet, the Lexwing, on a proposed trip around the world and crashing it in some mountains, using this as cover for the transplant of his brain into a younger healthy clone body of himself which he then masqueraded as the illegitimate Australian son and heir, known as "Alexander Luthor" his new body appearence of having a full head of red hair and a beard helped sell his deception to the public (with the exception of Lois Lane, Superman and Batman who weren't conviced by Luthor Jr.'s Charade .)

Lex Luthor used his new identity as his own son Alex to seduce Supergirl and continue to torment Superman from the shadows. However everything quickly fell apart, when Luthor's new clone body began to deteriorate and age at a rapid rate (his being one of many clones that were becoming ill at the time). This caused Luthor to begin to slip, as Lois Lane discovered proof that Lex Luthor had years earlier murdered a female LexCorp employee and framed an innocent man for the murder. This led Lois to find out the truth about Lex faking his death and being his own son, which caused Luthor to systematically destroy Lois' life and have her fired from the Daily Planet. Lois fought back and with help from Superman, exposed the truth about Lex Luthor, his faked death, and his evil criminal activities to the public.

Right before his body became so old that he couldn't move or communicate, Lex activated a "Doomsday Plan" to destroy Metropolis. The city was burned to the ground and thousands killed as Luthor became a permanent prisoner in his cloned body.

However, aid would come in the form of the demon Neron; Luthor promptly sold his soul in exchange for Neron restoring his body to perfect health. Returning to a rebuilt Metropolis, Luthor turned himself over to the police and was put on trial, where he was acquitted of all crimes when Lex Luthor claimed to have been kidnapped by renegade scientists who replaced him with a clone, who was responsible for all the crimes he was charged with Luthor was free to return back to business at LexCorp, However he decided too instead take up politics...

In Smallville, The Producers as well as Tom Welling realize the importance of Lex Luthor's character to the Superman mythology have decided to bring the character back regardless if Michael Rosenbaum decides to returns to the role or not . This Clone story arc is the producers way of stalling until they can either get Michael back or they recast for the series finale .
 
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Yeacbm does not have a good recond with things. Well good on gl/caps news and photos. But I too doubt she will be lovekid of lionel. What were is the lionel plot I hope its good.
 
Ok, Well I'm guessing your not familar with Lex's cloning storyarc from the comics and that's why this is confussing to you .

Well I hope my explanation helps.

In the 1990's revamp of the Superman comics

Lex Luthor acquires the only known sample of Green Kryptonite on Earth at the time from the Kryptonite-powered cyborg Metallo, whom LexCorp abducted just before Metallo almost succeeded in killing Superman. Lex pulls the Kryptonite out of Corben's chest violently remarking if anyone was going to kill Superman it would be him no one else .
Lex then Fashions a ring from the alien ore deadly to Superman, Luthor began wearing it constantly to ward off his enemy.

Unfortunately, Luthor began to suffered from a severe cancer in the 1990s, caused by long-term radiation exposure from his kryptonite ring. (Before Man of Steel, kryptonite exposure had not been thought to be harmful to non-Kryptonian life forms).
Luthor's hand had to be amputated to prevent the cancer's spread, but unfortunately by then it had already metastasized; it was eventually determined that the disease was terminal.

Lex Luthor faked his own death shortly afterward by taking his personally designed jet, the Lexwing, on a proposed trip around the world and crashing it in some mountains, using this as cover for the transplant of his brain into a younger healthy clone body of himself which he then masqueraded as the illegitimate Australian son and heir, known as "Alexander Luthor" his new body appearence of having a full head of red hair and a beard helped sell his deception to the public (with the exception of Lois Lane, Superman and Batman who weren't conviced by Luthor Jr.'s Charade .)

Lex Luthor used his new identity as his own son Alex to seduce Supergirl and continue to torment Superman from the shadows. However everything quickly fell apart, when Luthor's new clone body began to deteriorate and age at a rapid rate (his being one of many clones that were becoming ill at the time). This caused Luthor to begin to slip, as Lois Lane discovered proof that Lex Luthor had years earlier murdered a female LexCorp employee and framed an innocent man for the murder. This led Lois to find out the truth about Lex faking his death and being his own son, which caused Luthor to systematically destroy Lois' life and have her fired from the Daily Planet. Lois fought back and with help from Superman, exposed the truth about Lex Luthor, his faked death, and his evil criminal activities to the public.

Right before his body became so old that he couldn't move or communicate, Lex activated a "Doomsday Plan" to destroy Metropolis. The city was burned to the ground and thousands killed as Luthor became a permanent prisoner in his cloned body.

However, aid would come in the form of the demon Neron; Luthor promptly sold his soul in exchange for Neron restoring his body to perfect health. Returning to a rebuilt Metropolis, Luthor turned himself over to the police and was put on trial, where he was acquitted of all crimes when Lex Luthor claimed to have been kidnapped by renegade scientists who replaced him with a clone, who was responsible for all the crimes he was charged with Luthor was free to return back to business at LexCorp, However he decided too instead take up politics...

In Smallville, The Producers as well as Tom Welling realize the importance of Lex Luthor's character to the Superman mythology have decided to bring the character back regardless if Michael Rosenbaum decides to returns to the role or not . This Clone story arc is the producers way of stalling until they can either get Michael back or they recast for the series finale .

wow! thanks for that, man:awesome:
 
Yea clones is a common thing in comics from supes to even spiderman.
 
E! Online's "Spoiler Chat" has a couple of SPOILERS regarding future Clark and alternate Clark...

Is the alt universe on Smallville in a different episode than "Homecoming?"

It is. We can also tell you that the Clark in this "alt Earth" has been raised by someone other than the Kents, and it makes him veeerrry different and very interesting!

Ah! Future Clark Kent is so sexy! Will we see him again on Smallville this season?

Count on it, sista. (By the way, FCK is way sexy!)

Source: E! Online.

This alternate Clark sounds like a sensible plot for the "Luthor" episode, with John Glover playing dad. Could it be?
Wonder if we'll get him to throw some platitudes at Clark. But you know, in an MB way. :woot:
 

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