BvS 2 villains = twice fun?

[-Nam rorriM-]

Just wanted to gauge your thoughts on 2 villains sharing screen time. Do you think it adds to the movie ? Or perhaps you feel like one dc villain will be robbed of precious glorification? Though we may not truly know the villains yet, how do you feel on the screen sharing? Perhaps it may take precious time away from building the heroes up?

And go!

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

Depends on the villain(s) and their roles. I think there should be at LEAST one henchman and one mastermind.

 

[Wise]

Personally I think 1 villains should be enough. We have two heroes and from what we're hearing quite a few hero cameos.

Avengers only had one villain (Thanos doesn't count) and because of that we were able to see more character development for him as well as the heroes.

That isn't to say I don't want to see Luthor and someone else, like Metallo. But if it is this way, we have to focus on only one villain's development. Either you show Metallo's origin and growth and have Luthor as the shadowy puppetmaster, or you focus on Luthor and have Metallo as his bodyguard and limit his development.

I don't think we have time to fully develop two heroes and two villains in this film.

 

[LEVITIKUZ]

Let me just jump into this topic:

We have Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman in a film. Lex is good but he's outnumbered big time. There will be more. Hopefully Metallo and not Doomsday.

 

[Rorschach2012]

I think you need more than one villain if Lex is involved. I don't have any interest in seeing him as the sole villain of BvS. If BvS was a solo Superman movie, and Lex donned the powersuit, I'd be okay with Lex as the only villain, but this is not the case.

For Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman to be facing off against only Lex Luthor doesn't make sense. Lex + a more physical villain (or villains) is the way to go.

So yes. 2 villains = twice fun. In certain cases....

If Brainiac or Darkseid were the main villains in BvS, I'd be fine with either of them being the only villains of this movie. Preferably though, if Darkseid was involved, I'd want to see Granny Goodness, Kalibak, Parademons and Desaad involved as well.

 

[-Nam rorriM-]

I agree on the puppet master and henchman approach. But I do worry about how pact it's getting. I worry that neither side will get enough time spent. Who knows if this JL film straight after rumor is true, perhaps they'll use it to spill over, giving enough time and planting the hook firmly in the mouths of cinema goers. Please dc Jesus.

 

[-Nam rorriM-]

I'd love darkseid to come at the end! I don't know why I've never taken to brainiac though.

 

[Wise]

I'd love darkseid to come at the end! I don't know why I've never taken to brainiac though.

Braniac has so many incarnations though.

I sort of wish they'd gone the TImmverse approach and linked him with Krypton.

 

[Rorschach2012]

the rumors are pointing to Doomsday being the reason Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Nightwing, The Flash, Green Lantern and Aquaman unite. Maybe Lex unleashes Doomsday with the intentions of rebuilding Metropolis in his image. Lex's public support would help him get elected for President. Soon though, Lex realizes he miscalculated Doomsday's threat level, and he realizes what he's unleashed is now out of his control.

Lex's realization that Doomsday is uncontrollable could help to set up a BvS sequel. Doomsday's rampage will help Lex realize that beings with superpowers can't be completely eradicated, but they can merely be controlled. Lex knows that he can't control any members of the Justice League, so he puts together a team of people that can be controlled (for the right price) to take down the Justice League.

 

[Rorschach2012]

Personally I think 1 villains should be enough. We have two heroes and from what we're hearing quite a few hero cameos.

Avengers only had one villain (Thanos doesn't count) and because of that we were able to see more character development for him as well as the heroes.

That isn't to say I don't want to see Luthor and someone else, like Metallo. But if it is this way, we have to focus on only one villain's development. Either you show Metallo's origin and growth and have Luthor as the shadowy puppetmaster, or you focus on Luthor and have Metallo as his bodyguard and limit his development.

I don't think we have time to fully develop two heroes and two villains in this film.

I think MOS would have been better if Brainiac was the villain. In terms of best Superman villains, Zod is pretty far down the list for me. MOS should've been Lex/Brainiac imo

 

[-Nam rorriM-]

the rumors are pointing to Doomsday being the reason Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Nightwing, The Flash, Green Lantern and Aquaman unite. Maybe Lex unleashes Doomsday with the intentions of rebuilding Metropolis in his image. Lex's public support would help him get elected for President. Soon though, Lex realizes he miscalculated Doomsday's threat level, and he realizes what he's unleashed is now out of his control.

Lex's realization that Doomsday is uncontrollable could help to set up a BvS sequel. Doomsday's rampage will help Lex realize that beings with superpowers can't be completely eradicated, but they can merely be controlled. Lex knows that he can't control any members of the Justice League, so he puts together a team of people that can be controlled (for the right price) to take down the Justice League.

^^^me likey^^^ makes lex an onion with layers rather than previous film iterations. And reasons for gathering like minders is valid

 

[-Nam rorriM-]

I think I struggle with brainiac because ( I'm probably going to get flak ) he's really what I'd consider "out there". Darkseid done right would look and feel amazing on the big screen. Probably talking rubbish

 

[John-An]

I would like to see Lexi and Metallo and Darkseid at the end being the cause to the heroes to unite.

 

[Rorschach2012]

In an BvS sequel with Injustice Gang, they could play around with Lex's jealousy of Superman. Superman forms and leads the Justice League towards the end of BvS, Lex forms and leads the Injustice Gang in the BvS sequel because he wishes he could be Superman. Or at least, he wishes he had Superman's powers.

 

[Smashlilman]

I think you need more than one villain if Lex is involved. I don't have any interest in seeing him as the sole villain of BvS. If BvS was a solo Superman movie, and Lex donned the powersuit, I'd be okay with Lex as the only villain, but this is not the case.

For Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman to be facing off against only Lex Luthor doesn't make sense. Lex + a more physical villain (or villains) is the way to go.

So yes. 2 villains = twice fun. In certain cases....

If Brainiac or Darkseid were the main villains in BvS, I'd be fine with either of them being the only villains of this movie. Preferably though, if Darkseid was involved, I'd want to see Granny Goodness, Kalibak, Parademons and Desaad involved as well.

Yea Darkseid comes with a score of underlings built into his world. Kalibak, Granny Goodness , Big Barda, The Furies, and his entire military. I think most people would have a fit if Darkseid was the only sole villian in any Superman movie.

I think Brainac is the only true stand alone villian.

 

[-Nam rorriM-]

I would like to see Lexi and Metallo and Darkseid at the end being the cause to the heroes to unite.

I can dig it. How would yu have mr seid appearing in this man o steelverse? I must admit, I enjoyed cyborgs contribution in the new 52 in sending him packing

 

[sebandres23]

I'm not sure where the idea of a necessity of two villains begun, or why it's stayed in the genre for so long. TDKR had Bane and Talia, TDK had Joker and Two Face, Avengers had Loki and the Chitairi, and the list goes on.

One of the reasons I enjoyed Man of Steel was because Zod was the only villain, which gave lots of room for character growth and the internal conflicts that Superman had.

This movie NEEDS to only have Lex as the villain. Batman and Superman will take lots of screen time, there's no reason why Batman can't be considered in a sense, "the second bad guy". If the movie could just focus on Lex as a cerebral equivalent to Superman, build him as a rising voice in Metropolis with ambitious and ambiguous motives, I'd be so happy. He can be experimenting with Kryptonian science and have whatever he creates be the destructive villain that brings together the Justice League.

 

[Pickleweasel]

I am pretty sure that in like literally every comic book movie in the last 20 years there have been at least two villains

 

[Rorschach2012]

I'm not sure where the idea of a necessity of two villains begun, or why it's stayed in the genre for so long. TDKR had Bane and Talia, TDK had Joker and Two Face, Avengers had Loki and the Chitairi, and the list goes on.

One of the reasons I enjoyed Man of Steel was because Zod was the only villain, which gave lots of room for character growth and the internal conflicts that Superman had.

This movie NEEDS to only have Lex as the villain. Batman and Superman will take lots of screen time, there's no reason why Batman can't be considered in a sense, "the second bad guy". If the movie could just focus on Lex as a cerebral equivalent to Superman, build him as a rising voice in Metropolis with ambitious and ambiguous motives, I'd be so happy. He can be experimenting with Kryptonian science and have whatever he creates be the destructive villain that brings together the Justice League.

Zod had Faora, Nam-Ek and a bunch of other Kryptonians with him. He wasn't the only villain

 

[-Nam rorriM-]

A lot depends on if zack/ goyer are going to make them fight one another, or attempt. I'm struggling to imagine how they'd fit plot development, character development, bat vs supes scenes, and two villain fights. I just worry it's going to be a dumb movie. I loved mos and I'm probably going to surprise a lot of people when I say I love how the film is split half character development, half huge fight scenes. But how are they going to fit all this in?!

 

[sebandres23]

Zod had Faora, Nam-Ek and a bunch of other Kryptonians with him. He wasn't the only villain

They were just minor little henchmen. No backstory, Nam-Ek didn't have lines, Faora had like three. Faora was just cool because she beat the crap out of Superman. But they wouldn't be considered a "second villain".

 

[Lord]

Brainiac should be left for a Superman solo or for a movie where he doesn't need to share the screentime with another big villain, both him and Lex Luthor are masterminds, they work better with a physical goon, but not as well together, expecially since this would be the first appearance for both of them.

I think that for this one film Lex Luthor should be the main villain, with somebody like Metallo, Doomsday, or even Amazo for the physical threat, Lex could even take most of the film in trying to frame Superman, with Batman and Wonder Woman possibly being investigating him in the background, each one on their oun. Then by the end of the film Lex snaps and goes with his suit battle Superman, this could be left for a later sequel, so that Lex runs for President in the end of this film.

 

[Rorschach2012]

They were just minor little henchmen. No backstory, Nam-Ek didn't have lines, Faora had like three. Faora was just cool because she beat the crap out of Superman. But they wouldn't be considered a "second villain".

I disagree but I see what you're saying. I like the 2 villain trend though.

 

[Lord]

They were just minor little henchmen. No backstory, Nam-Ek didn't have lines, Faora had like three. Faora was just cool because she beat the crap out of Superman. But they wouldn't be considered a "second villain".

Then Doomsday or Evil superman copy (Bizarro) could be an easy fix, created by Lex as a major boss for Superman, from what they gathered of Kryptonian DNA and technology.

 

[-Nam rorriM-]

I suppose some villains are better when teaming up.