BvS 2 villains = twice fun?

Discussion in 'Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice' started by -Nam rorriM-, Jan 16, 2014.

  1. -Nam rorriM- Eater of toasties

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    Metallo would be interesting, as it could be lex' first stumbling a into "defending " earth from superman
     
  2. -Nam rorriM- Eater of toasties

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    What if lex used the liquid metal stuff with metallo?
     
  3. Mike22 Sidekick

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    As much as I enjoyed MOS, it isn't really how I imagined the origin story to play out.
    Originally I always imagined two villains for the first movie, lex and Metallo because I always figured that would be enough for his first day on the job.
    But realistically speaking, two villains just aren't enough for this sequel, and especially a sequel that has members of the Justice League in it.
    Lex is a must, I would have also thrown in a fierce version of Metallo that Superman couldn't beat that easily due to equal strength and Kryptonite being his source of power. AND I would have thrown in Parasite for good fun, because that can offer possibilities in many different ways, given how he inherits the power and emotions of those he has contact with.
    So Supes will have to deal with Lex attacking him publically and emotionally, Metallo and parasite will handle the physical aspect, and he will have to deal with a mad man dressed like a bat that has a bone to pick with him, plus WW, whatever her story will be.

    Doomsday and Darkseid is for the Justice league movie.
     
  4. Masone Civilian

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    Loki had character development?

    I don't care how many villains are in the film, I just want the villain that we do get to test the hero. Not just physically, but test his morals, test his character. Villains like Joker, Ra's, Zod, Bane, etc...We need villains like that. We don't want a villain that is there just because the movie needs a villain. We need a villain that makes the hero take a second look at themselves and what they are doing, a villain that can really bring the hero to the edge and bring out his emotions.

    Manchester Black and Lex Luthor for instance, both those guys test everything that makes Superman, Superman. But at the end of the day, this is an adaptation, they could take any of superman's villains and turn him into someone that can really test Superman.
     
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  5. Rocketman Superhero

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    Bruce Wayne discovers Kryptonite.

    Batman now has the key to beating Superman.

    Wayne Enterprises gives Kryptonite to LexCorp, because Bruce thinks Lex is an ally to the world and Superman is an enemy to the world.

    Lex Luthor creates Metallo. Metallo is powered by Kryptonite.

    Bruce realizes Lex is bad.

    Bruce realizes Superman is good.

    Batman and Superman vs. Metallo (PHYSICAL)

    Batman and Superman vs. Lex Luthor (MENTAL)
     
  6. Llama_Shepherd Superhero

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    If I had to do 2 villains, one being Luthor:

    Lex Luthor, paranoid at the idea of Superman, propels himself to the forefront of the US media in the rebuilding of Metropolis in conjunction with Wayne Enterprises.

    Gotham has some Batman drones policing the city as a disillusioned Batman is lax in his responsibilities.

    The disillusioned Bruce Wayne is seemingly convinced of Superman's potential treachery and given "Kryptonite" to do with as he pleases.

    Batman confronts Superman. Begrudgingly accepts his position.

    To combat united front, Lex Luthor recruits assassin/mercenary Deathstroke to kill Batman.

    In Gotham, Deathstroke corrupts the Bat-Computer and drones, and they track Superman.

    Superman fights and is being beaten by Lex (in power Zod suit) and drones. Batman fights Deathstroke.

    Wonder Woman appears fights drones, Superman's second wind.

    Heroes triumph.
     
  7. John-An Wonder Fingers!

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    Althought she was part of the ONE VILLAIN (KRYPTONIAN ARMY) I don't agree about the Faora thing. She was cool because of his performance in the story not only to beat the crap out superman. The few lines she had were pretty effective and were some of the greatest of the movie. also the actions scenes she had were one of the best. She showed us how to be a badass villain, a great militar and of course a REAL THREAT. some things that some villains need to learn :cwink:
     
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  8. Loki882 Avenger

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    It depends on how it's executed. For example:
    Batman Begins had two primary villains (Ra's and Scarecrow) and several other more minor villains (Falcone, Zsasz, etc).
    The Dark Knight also had two primary antagonists (Joker and Two Face) with several minor villains (Maroni, Gambol, Chechen, the corrupt cops, etc).
    X2 had two main villains (Magneto and Stryker), three if you count Mystique.

    All of these worked out really well because the villains meshed well together and were integrated into the story properly. If they're not integrated well, then you get X3, or SM 3.
     
  9. TheFlamingCoco Avenger

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    As funny enough as it sounds, of the above examples mentioned, X2 did the best job of integrating multiple villains. Stryker as a very greasy human being, Magneto as a master manipulator, and Mystique as a very sinister henchwoman all meld together to create a nice feast of villainy.
     
  10. Masone Civilian

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    So basically what you're saying is, they need to bring Faora back to be in the Mystique role. Gotcha.
     
  11. FeedOnATreeFrog (A Metal Gear reference)

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    When you have characters with the same motivations, goals and explanation for powers, etc, it's pretty much the same as having one villain.
     
  12. KillerMcQueen Mortal-ish

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    They still could should they ever want to. Would love to see something like the DCAU Brainiac on film.
     
  13. -Nam rorriM- Eater of toasties

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    Gotta say I wouldn't like Bruce to discover kryptonite. If anything it's gotta be lex. He's driven by utter hatred towards supes. In my mind batman is aware of superman, but he's on the fence. Lex would act as the devil in his ear, but until he meets superman, only then should the do a BFF super secret handshake
     
  14. TheFlamingCoco Avenger

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    Or just add Mercy Graves :yay:
     
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    Hmm, Mercy could give Wonder Woman something to do.
     
  16. Dk1201 Civilian

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    Are we still talking about Batman vs Superman

    or have we moved into Batman vs Superman the porn parody without me realizing it.
     
  17. John-An Wonder Fingers!

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    too soon IMO. maybe for a next movie.
     
  18. Frodo Avenger

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    I'd actually be okay with 2 villains with Lex being more of an emerging character who's plays the main baddie role in the 3rd. Brainiac and Doomsday as the two villains with Lex as a supporting character who isn't the "main villain" might be a way to do it.

    If they were going that route than I'd Have Cranston for Lex, Phoenix for Brainac, and Rock as Doomsday.
     

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