2009 NCAA Football Thread: Revenge of the Computer Polls

[RAMORE]

Please don't turn this into Excel & Norman's B*tching Thread 2.0

Soooo funny By the way Fire Tebow will be taking that Heisman thank you

 

[Immortalfire]

Like I care. I don't think the Heisman holds as much glory as it used to...
It's almost as big a popularity contest as the wonderful BCS system.



Just be careful not to hurt yourself RAMORE, jumping onto that Gators bandwagon.

 

[Byrd Man]

Woo! Game*****!



And the hype keeps sticking it to my team.

 

[RAMORE]

Like I care. I don't think the Heisman holds as much glory as it used to...
It's almost as big a popularity contest as the wonderful BCS system.



Just be careful not to hurt yourself RAMORE, jumping onto that Gators bandwagon.

EXCUSE ME I am NOT a gator fan I'm a Hurricane Fan!!!!! I just so happen to see the facts Tebow should have one this year and should win next year. It makes me sick to my stomach the Gators are so successful right now and we aren't but I try to be happy for the guy he's a class act.

 

[Immortalfire]

95,722 showed up for Ohio State's spring game

 

[El_Citrus]

95,722 showed up for Ohio State's spring game

Give em a break, the rest of the state's nationally known football sucks.

 

[GreenKToo]

Barring any injuries, I wouldnt be surprised if there is heisman talk here and there for Dexter McCluster of Ole Miss.
No chance of him winning it of course( not a FL, or O.S. team). But still, he's that good.

QB Jevan Snead is great as well. He was one of the top QB's in the SEC at the close of the season. Most polls have O.M. as a preseason top ten team.

 

[FaT_tONle]

So much for the big BCS meeting of the off season...

BCS warns playoff system threat to bowl games

By FREDERIC J. FROMMER, Associated Press Writer

56 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (AP)—The coordinator of the Bowl Championship Series told Congress Friday that a switch to a playoff system—favored by fans, President Barack Obama and some lawmakers—would threaten the existence of celebrated bowl games.

Sponsorships and TV revenue that now go to bowl games would instead be spent on playoff games, “meaning that it will be very difficult for any bowl, including the current BCS bowls, which are among the oldest and most established in the game’s history, to survive,” said BCS coordinator John Swofford in prepared testimony. “Certainly the twenty-nine games that are not part of the BCS would be in peril.”

Swofford was appearing before the House Energy and Commerce Committee’s commerce, trade and consumer protection subcommittee, some of whose members back legislation aimed at prodding the BCS to switch to a playoff system.

Under the BCS, some conferences get automatic bids to participate while others do not. Conferences that get an automatic bid—the ACC, Big East, Big 12, Big Ten, Pac-10 and SEC—get about $18 million each, far more than the non-conference schools. Swofford is also commissioner of the ACC.

Craig Thompson, commissioner of the Mountain West Commission, which does not get an automatic bid, said in prepared testimony that the current system is patently unfair.

“Such economic disparities and anomalies cannot be justified and should not continue,” he said. “Many have said the current BCS system ensures a permanent underclass. They are right.”

The MWC has proposed a playoff system and hired a Washington firm to lobby Congress for changes to the BCS, which currently features a championship game between the two top teams in the BCS standings, based on two polls and six computer ratings.

The MWC proposes, among others things, scrapping the BCS standings and creating a 12-member committee to pick which teams receive at-large bids, and to select and seed the eight teams chosen for the playoff. The BCS has previously discussed, and dismissed, the idea of using a selection committee.

The four current BCS games—the Sugar, Orange, Rose and Fiesta bowls— would host the four first-round playoff games under the proposal. Thompson argued that a playoff system would be a boon for those bowls, because they would help determine the national champion.

Thompson said that under the current system, teams that don’t come from a conference with a guaranteed bid have no realistic chance of winning a BCS championship.

Swofford argued that criticism that the BCS guarantees berths and money to only some conferences “states the situation exactly backward.” Prior to the BCS, he said, the conferences that now have automatic bids were guaranteed an attractive bowl slot for its champion.

“If the BCS were to disappear tomorrow, each of those conferences would return to the marketplace and obtain a similarly attractive bowl slot on its own through individual negotiation, most likely in one of the current BCS games,” he said. But there would no longer be guaranteed annual bowl game pairing the top two ranked teams.

Among those participating at Friday’s hearing is Texas Rep. Joe Barton, the committee’s top Republican, who has introduced legislation that would prevent the NCAA from labeling a game a “national championship” unless it culminates from a playoff system.

In an interview before the hearing, Barton called the BCS system “more about cartels and revenue sharing” than athletic performance. “It’s big money,” Barton said. “We’re going to start looking into where the money goes.”

The BCS is in its final season of a four-year deal with the Fox network. A new four-year deal with ESPN, worth $125 million per year, begins with the 2011 bowl games.

The BCS has come under attack from a range of politicians. Last November, as president-elect, Obama told “60 Minutes” he would prefer an eight-team playoff system.

“I don’t know any serious fan of college football who has disagreed with me on this,” he said. “So I’m going to throw my weight around a little bit.”

In the Senate, Utah Republican Orrin Hatch has put the BCS on the agenda for the Judiciary’s antitrust subcommittee this year, and Utah’s attorney general, Mark Shurtleff, is investigating whether the BCS violates federal antitrust laws.

Fans were furious that Utah was bypassed for the national championship despite going undefeated in the regular season. The title game pitted No. 1 Florida (12-1) against No. 2 Oklahoma (12-1); Florida won 24-14 and claimed the title.

 

[StorminNorman]

The easiest way for a playoff to happen may be for a group of wealthy playoff enthusiasts to wage a **** ton of money, rent out a stadium for three weekends and make their own championship.

Offer a million dollar prize to the winning school, start at the top of the final season rankings and invite every school (many will turn it down) until you have 8 teams signed up.

Instant Championship game.

 

[FaT_tONle]

The presidents would never let those schools participate. Apparently the Rose Bowl feels they have the right to hold the entire country hostage because of "tradition." I just hope one fine day on New Years Day everyone at the Rose Bowl, players and coaches included... just take a crap in the middle of the field and on the seats. That would be the only solution.

 

[StorminNorman]

You are telling me the President of Utah and the President of Georgia would not allow their teams to participate - after actively supporting a redesign of the post season?

 

[FaT_tONle]

Pac-10 and Big Ten want no part of it. The SEC and Big 12 MIGHT want to dip into a playoff system. Maybe just do it with those conferences... but the Rose Bowl is the biggest problem. They do their business independently of everyone else's deals sort of like Notre Dame. They are the richest conferences. They aren't going let their schools participate in a playoff if the lives of their players depended on it. You guys want a playoff at the very least boycott the Rose Bowl and the rest of these BCS bowl so they won't get a decent TV deal after this ESPN contract winds down in 2014. Then again, they are televised separately on ABC so I take that back. At least that would get the other conferences in line... and I am all for that. **** the Pac-10... and double **** to the Big Ten.

 

[Immortalfire]

The Big 11 already loses in the big games, so they might as well agree to a playoff.

 

[Addendum]

Even though I'm in favor of a playoff in Division 1 football (or whatever the hell it's called), that stuff in Congress was a waste of time. It's not like holding meetings about drug testing in sports. Plus, I also read about a proposed bill that could force a playoff system. Only thing is, if it's passed it'll probably go to court over the legality of bill.

 

[Mister J]

I'm far tpp cynical to believe any real good will come out of this, but it was hilarious to watch snippets of the BCS fatcats talk about 'marketplace' in the wake being accused of exclusionary practices ...which is entirely accurate. The BCS is a hugley flawed, piece of ****, designed to perpetuate the interest of 6 conferences (and Notre Dame), operating as a multi-billion dollar entity. The more scrutiny it faces, the better.

Plus, I also read about a proposed bill that could force a playoff system. Only thing is, if it's passed it'll probably go to court over the legality of bill.

The leadoff on ESPNews flat out stated the BCS had 2 months to work out a playoff before government intervention. Seemed a bit like overstatement to me, but that was a near quote.

 

[FaT_tONle]

The bill is only going to invalidate the championship game. There is nothing else they can do. After all it is called the "BCS" championship game so I don't think there is much they can do about calling it something else. At the very least we'd be better off scrapping the national championship game all together and just rotate 1 vs 2 between the four bowls like it was before. Or even better don't even have 1 vs 2. But then the small conferences would just ***** about not having access to the BCS bowls, the same conferences that ***** when they get snubbed out of the title game when one of their schools goes undefeated.

 

[GreenKToo]

It would be a win win. It would not only determine who the true national champion was, it would also perhaps extend the season by another month which would = $$$$.

 

[Alex The Great]

I don't give a rats ass on how Congress gets a Playoff system in the NCAA, just please....make it so.

 

[FaT_tONle]

I always envisioned the final four the Saturday before Championship Sunday with the final the following weekend before the Superbowl. And don't tell me academics... the kids are still on break up until MID January. You can hold practices between January 2nd-16th with virtually no scheduling conflicts. It would only be one or two weeks into the next semester before the final four. And it's only three additional games. It comes down to the fact that the BCS does not want to be relegated to a quarterfinal round that's all there is to it. Frankly two or three of the BCS bowls are meaningless as it is, but nothing will change.

 

[Addendum]

No one complains about academics with the tournament in March and April for basketball. No one complains about academics with the playoffs in Division 2 and Division 3 football (or whatever they call them now), nor does anyone complain about academics with the playoffs in every other sport in college.

 

[VampElvis]

It's 5-19
Happy Gene Chizik Day everyone!!!!

 

[Immortalfire]

LoL

 

[Holiday]

It's 5-19
Happy Gene Chizik Day everyone!!!!

They should have hired Turner Gill. I might have actually taken interest in the team then.

 

[Immortalfire]

They should have hired Turner Gill. I might have actually taken interest in the team then.

Charles Barkley all but called Auburn racist, because they didn't hire Gill.

 

[Holiday]

Charles Barkley all but called Auburn racist, because they didn't hire Gill.

Yeah, I remember he made a big fuss about it. I don't really know about the people in that area, if they would have had a problem with Gill being hired or not. But I didn't see how Chizik could be a better coach, so maybe there is some truth to what he said.