2011 NFL Thread: The Lazarus Season - Part 6

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OMG, The Broncos beat the Raiders and ESPN goes on Tebow ass kissing mode. F my life...

"Tebow proves his critics wrong!"

They do realize that Willis McGahee contributed more than Tim Tebow did for the win, right?

I know it's super annoying that with Tebow the whole Qb gets most praise and criticism thing is like on supermax! He's essentially a Rookie Qb on a team that has serious issues.

When he's not sacked continuously and has run support than he does pretty good:up:
 
That's the thing that kills me.

If Tebow was converted to FB, he'd have the potential to be a Pro Bowler. The guy can run. I'll give him that.
 
Confident and they might sleep on you guys...

Pissed off and they'll be out for Dalton's blood...
 
My ravens took care of busniess in pittsburgh deep in enemy territory. I loved how the NFL network guys were complaining and crying during the highlights and analysis last night. I dont care if flacco or the ravens ever earn there respect or catch the heart of the nation, If they win the super bowl this year history will have no choice but to remember them forever as the best team for one season.
 
I've come to the conclusion that I dont dislike Tebow. I just really dislike the way the media treats Tebow by constantly slobbing on his knob. ESPN being the biggest offender.
 
They had to make up for the lack of Lebron somehow... Call it the Tebow vaccuum...
 
My ravens took care of busniess in pittsburgh deep in enemy territory. I loved how the NFL network guys were complaining and crying during the highlights and analysis last night. I dont care if flacco or the ravens ever earn there respect or catch the heart of the nation, If they win the super bowl this year history will have no choice but to remember them forever as the best team for one season.

IF. Honestly, I'm having a hard time seeing any team beating Green Bay. Every team in the league has flaws. HUGE flaws. I blame this on the lack of a full off-season. No team in the league right now is really elite. But Green Bay has shown all season that they are the only team who can consistently overcome their flaws in crunch time and win in-spite of them.
 
I've come to the conclusion that I dont dislike Tebow. I just really dislike the way the media treats Tebow by constantly slobbing on his knob. ESPN being the biggest offender.

I guess the anchormen on ESPN Network are different than their radio personalities like Cowherd, because Cowherd refused to buy into the hype of Tebow and keeps dismissing him as a QB for a long-term success. Cowherd also mocked Broncos for the fact that they actually ran option plays for Tebow in last night's win over Raiders.
 
I guess the anchormen on ESPN Network are different than their radio personalities like Cowherd, because Cowherd refused to buy into the hype of Tebow and keeps dismissing him as a QB for a long-term success. Cowherd also mocked Broncos for the fact that they actually ran option plays for Tebow in last night's win over Raiders.

Cowherd is also a pompous windbag, and probably even more irritating to listen to than most of the SC anchors.
 
Cowherd is also a pompous windbag, and probably even more irritating to listen to than most of the SC anchors.

I listen to both Cowherd and Dan Patrick on the way to work, and while Cowherd may be a bit pompous, he also likes to tell it as it is and I like that. He's somewhat similar to Jim Rome imo.

Btw, are Dolphins fans cheering that they've finally won one (meaningless) game, or lamented the fact that now they're out of the running to get Andrew Luck?
 
Miami winning doesn't surprise me as much as how they did it. Quite a convincing win.
 
My ravens took care of busniess in pittsburgh deep in enemy territory. I loved how the NFL network guys were complaining and crying during the highlights and analysis last night. I dont care if flacco or the ravens ever earn there respect or catch the heart of the nation, If they win the super bowl this year history will have no choice but to remember them forever as the best team for one season.

Yeah man, if you've been a Ravens fan long enough, you KNOW we never get the respect we deserve. Hell, we will forever be an also ran to the Steelers in our Division in most of these analyst's minds. Personally, I think if we win a few more Super Bowls we'll start to get that respect.

It's on our franchise to earn that respect.
 
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/peter_king/11/07/Week9/index.html?xid=cnnbin
Eli: A Giant among men.

It's eerie. Way too eerie.

Giants-Patriots, Super Bowl 42, fourth quarter, New England up 14-10, 1:15 to play, third and five, Giants' 44. Eli Manning, pressured, looks downfield for No. 85.

Giants-Patriots, Sunday in Foxboro, fourth quarter, New England up 20-17, 1:07 to play, third and 10, Giants' 39. Eli Manning, pressured, looks downfield for No. 85.

There's more.

Super Bowl 42: David Tyree hauls in the highly unlikely Velcro Catch with Rodney Harrison in close coverage. Gain of 32. First and 10 at the Patriots' 24. Fifty-nine seconds left, timeout Giants.

Sunday in Foxboro: Jake Ballard hauls in a one-handed catch, bending back with Tracy White in close coverage. Gain of 28. First and 10 at the Patriots' 33. Fifty-nine seconds left, clock running.

And more.

Super Bowl 42: Four plays after the drive-saving Tyree catch, Manning coolly finds Plaxico Burress in the left side of the end zone for a touchdown. Giants by three, with 35 seconds left.

Sunday in Foxboro: Four plays after the drive-saving Ballard catch, Manning coolly finds Ballard in the left side of the end zone for a touchdown. Giants by four, with 15 seconds left.

And finally ...

Super Bowl 42: After the Patriots return the kickoff 17 yards, Tom Brady throws three desperation passes to no avail. The Giants upset New England 17-14.

Sunday in Foxboro: After the Patriots return the kickoff 17 yards, Brady throws two desperation passes to no avail. The Giants upset New England 24-20.

"It's hard not to think about it,'' Manning told me from the locker room, after his biggest victory, all things considered, since that Super Bowl. "But in a way, before then, it was the complete opposite. Last time, it was the Patriots giving us the ball with three minutes left, up four. Today, after we took the four-point lead with three minutes to go, we're handing the ball to Tom Brady. And that's not a very good feeling.''

He's right. Four seasons ago, Brady threw a touchdown pass to Randy Moss with 2:45 left to give New England a four-point lead. And Sunday, Manning threw a touchdown pass to Mario Manningham with 3:07 remaining to give the Giants a four-point lead.

What made this Giant drive so interesting -- and, in some ways, tougher for Manning -- is that it came on the road instead of a neutral field, with noise and some of his mainstays out, hurt. Two guys Manning never heard of 20 months ago, Victor Cruz and Ballard, were his go-to receivers on this drive. And to go to Ballard twice ... it shows not only how undervalued the 6-6, 275-pound Ballard was coming out of Ohio State after being a blocking tight end and going undrafted, but also how adaptable and user-friendly the excuse-free Manning is.

The way he managed his receivers on this drive, and the comfort he showed with all of them, shows why Manning is such a terrific player (and why, wherever he watched the game Sunday, the GM who dealt for him, Ernie Accorsi, had to be nodding knowingly at his cool demeanor and laser accuracy) and why it surprised no one with the Giants that he was seven of 11 with two touchdown passes in the last seven minutes of the game.

On the throw to Ballard, Manning said it was a simple seam route and Ballard got over the linebacker, White, and he thought there was a tiny window to make the throw. What he didn't see was Patriot safety Patrick Chung charging into the play almost the way Harrison did four years ago. The ball was high, a smidge to Ballard's left, and he had to reach for it awkwardly, bringing it in with one hand to the other. A great catch. Not a Tyree catch, but what is?

"Huge,'' Manning said. "Jake's got great hands. He made a great catch there.''

Four plays later, at the Patriot one, the Giants had a third-and-goal. No timeouts left and 19 seconds to play. "You almost have to throw it there,'' Manning said. "If you run, and you don't make it, then you run your field goal unit on the field while you're unpiling, and it's chaos. Their guys laying on our guys, untangling the pile. You might not get the field goal off. So you've got to throw.''

"You audible?'' I asked. "Or was it the called play you ran?''

"No audible,'' he said. "Just a play-action, off the run. We sold it, and I saw Jake with a step on his guy.''

Not to dramatize the throw, but FOX had a camera in the corner of the end zone focused on Manning's throw. There was no wavering. In the Super Bowl, he had to place the ball deftly over a New England corner into Burress' hands. Here, Manning had to rip it, and he did. It was a perfect dart.

Manning is not his brother, the precision player and the prototype. But I believe Eli is a better clutch player than Peyton. No knock on Peyton. But look at the moments Eli's had. His 2007 postseason is one of the best any quarterback has ever played, winning three on the road (including beating Favre at Lambeau in minus-18 weather) and then upsetting the 18-0 Patriots in the Super Bowl. And Sunday, with 80- and 85-yard drives in the final seven minutes to beat Bill Belichick and Brady.

They don't make many like Eli Manning, and if you're a Giants' partisan, you've got to be thrilled he's yours.

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/peter_king/11/07/Week9/index.html#ixzz1d3EhuyW0
 
Oh please, without that ******** PI call I doubt he'd have closed the drive out with a win.
 
Eli defeats the #31 ranked pass defense in the NFL and now the NY media acts as if he beat the 18-0 Pats team again and demands immediate recognition of his "elite" status... :rolleyes:
 
OMG, The Broncos beat the Raiders and ESPN goes on Tebow ass kissing mode. F my life...

"Tebow proves his critics wrong!"

They do realize that Willis McGahee contributed more than Tim Tebow did for the win, right?
Oh for God's sake (that's like Tebow's best friend btw) give the kid a f***ing break. It's statements like this that assure me there is some massive bias against Tebow that has nothing to do with his on-the-field performance (or lack thereof). First of all he's [essentially] a rookie QB with six starts, resulting in 3 wins and 3 loses. A winner 50% of the time, good enough for an inexperienced NFL QB. Especially when I had to listen to everyone tell me how great the 7-9 "cost my team a slot in the playoffs to Seattle" Sam Badford was last year. -- I guess I should actually say Sam Overratedford -- because he isn't bad, just grossly overrated.

Tebow never promised to be perfect, I must've missed that preseason meeting. No, he's not in an ideal situation either, especially since until the Oakland game the Broncos had done little to alter their style of play to fit Tebow better.

He's not a Fullback, or a TE, he's a Quarterback, f***ing deal with it. Moreover, he's not supposed to get anymore flak than any other Quarterback, and his success will only be measured on the field. Merril Hoge and Boomer need to ****. I'm tired of hearing those too has beens (double for Merril Hoge since he's a never was) drone on about body mechanics.

Tebow won - and here it comes "I can't admit I was wrong about him EVER, so when his offensive line allows 7 sacks I'm gonna blame him, and everytime he wins a game I'm gonna credit someone else".

Willis McGahee didn't throw any touchdowns, Tebow did. He also doesn't get Tebow's personal rushing yards that game either.

I don't like his religion anymore than the next guy, but to me the beauty of sports is that you're only judged by your performance, and your performance only matters when you lose. Winning spectacularly is no different than winning unspectacularly. If Tebow wins all his games with a 50% completion percentage, and Cam Newton wins none, I'm taking Tebow, sorry. Favre, [Peyton and Eli] Manning, Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers all have flaws, in some cases make very questionable decisions. If you're going to say Tebow doesn't deserve credit, then start taking Brady and Manning's rings away from them because they never won a championship without effective running attacks and great defenses.

It's really sad to me the way people pick on him and for what? He tries hard? He respects his teammates? He doesn't talk trash? He wears his heart and his religion on his sleeve?

I have nothing against Andrew Luck, but part of me hopes he tanks in the NFL just to prove a point to the Tebow bashers: having all the measureables, and being an obvious choice doesn't mean jack sh** in the NFL.
 
Yeah man, if you've been a Ravens fan long enough, you KNOW we never get the respect we deserve. Hell, we will forever be an also ran to the Steelers in our Division in most of these analyst's minds. Personally, I think if we win a few more Super Bowls we'll start to get that respect.

It's on our franchise to earn that respect.


The ravens have finally turned the tide in this rivalry. I dont know if you watch nfl gamdey final on nfl netwrok but I could just hear the bitterness from deion and the others during the highlights afterwards talking about the game. If flacco played like he did last night for the rest of the year I have no doubt we'll be in the super bowl. The steelers defense for once left us with too much time on the clock and werent expecting Flacco to march down the field. Just imagine if this was an afc championship game, I might have smoked my first cigar.
 
Oh for God's sake (that's like Tebow's best friend btw) give the kid a f***ing break. It's statements like this that assure me there is some massive bias against Tebow that has nothing to do with his on-the-field performance (or lack thereof). First of all he's [essentially] a rookie QB with six starts, resulting in 3 wins and 3 loses. A winner 50% of the time, good enough for an inexperienced NFL QB. Especially when I had to listen to everyone tell me how great the 7-9 "cost my team a slot in the playoffs to Seattle" Sam Badford was last year. -- I guess I should actually say Sam Overratedford -- because he isn't bad, just grossly overrated.

Tebow never promised to be perfect, I must've missed that preseason meeting. No, he's not in an ideal situation either, especially since until the Oakland game the Broncos had done little to alter their style of play to fit Tebow better.

He's not a Fullback, or a TE, he's a Quarterback, f***ing deal with it. Moreover, he's not supposed to get anymore flak than any other Quarterback, and his success will only be measured on the field. Merril Hoge and Boomer need to ****. I'm tired of hearing those too has beens (double for Merril Hoge since he's a never was) drone on about body mechanics.

Tebow won - and here it comes "I can't admit I was wrong about him EVER, so when his offensive line allows 7 sacks I'm gonna blame him, and everytime he wins a game I'm gonna credit someone else".

Willis McGahee didn't throw any touchdowns, Tebow did. He also doesn't get Tebow's personal rushing yards that game either.

I don't like his religion anymore than the next guy, but to me the beauty of sports is that you're only judged by your performance, and your performance only matters when you lose. Winning spectacularly is no different than winning unspectacularly. If Tebow wins all his games with a 50% completion percentage, and Cam Newton wins none, I'm taking Tebow, sorry. Favre, [Peyton and Eli] Manning, Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers all have flaws, in some cases make very questionable decisions. If you're going to say Tebow doesn't deserve credit, then start taking Brady and Manning's rings away from them because they never won a championship without effective running attacks and great defenses.

It's really sad to me the way people pick on him and for what? He tries hard? He respects his teammates? He doesn't talk trash? He wears his heart and his religion on his sleeve?

I have nothing against Andrew Luck, but part of me hopes he tanks in the NFL just to prove a point to the Tebow bashers: having all the measureables, and being an obvious choice doesn't mean jack sh** in the NFL.


Hi Mr. Tebow. :awesome:


:cwink:
 
Oh for God's sake (that's like Tebow's best friend btw) give the kid a f***ing break. It's statements like this that assure me there is some massive bias against Tebow that has nothing to do with his on-the-field performance (or lack thereof). First of all he's [essentially] a rookie QB with six starts, resulting in 3 wins and 3 loses. A winner 50% of the time, good enough for an inexperienced NFL QB. Especially when I had to listen to everyone tell me how great the 7-9 "cost my team a slot in the playoffs to Seattle" Sam Badford was last year. -- I guess I should actually say Sam Overratedford -- because he isn't bad, just grossly overrated.

Tebow never promised to be perfect, I must've missed that preseason meeting. No, he's not in an ideal situation either, especially since until the Oakland game the Broncos had done little to alter their style of play to fit Tebow better.

He's not a Fullback, or a TE, he's a Quarterback, f***ing deal with it. Moreover, he's not supposed to get anymore flak than any other Quarterback, and his success will only be measured on the field. Merril Hoge and Boomer need to ****. I'm tired of hearing those too has beens (double for Merril Hoge since he's a never was) drone on about body mechanics.

Tebow won - and here it comes "I can't admit I was wrong about him EVER, so when his offensive line allows 7 sacks I'm gonna blame him, and everytime he wins a game I'm gonna credit someone else".

Willis McGahee didn't throw any touchdowns, Tebow did. He also doesn't get Tebow's personal rushing yards that game either.

I don't like his religion anymore than the next guy, but to me the beauty of sports is that you're only judged by your performance, and your performance only matters when you lose. Winning spectacularly is no different than winning unspectacularly. If Tebow wins all his games with a 50% completion percentage, and Cam Newton wins none, I'm taking Tebow, sorry. Favre, [Peyton and Eli] Manning, Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers all have flaws, in some cases make very questionable decisions. If you're going to say Tebow doesn't deserve credit, then start taking Brady and Manning's rings away from them because they never won a championship without effective running attacks and great defenses.

It's really sad to me the way people pick on him and for what? He tries hard? He respects his teammates? He doesn't talk trash? He wears his heart and his religion on his sleeve?

I have nothing against Andrew Luck, but part of me hopes he tanks in the NFL just to prove a point to the Tebow bashers: having all the measureables, and being an obvious choice doesn't mean jack sh** in the NFL.
U mad?
 
The ravens have finally turned the tide in this rivalry. I dont know if you watch nfl gamdey final on nfl netwrok but I could just hear the bitterness from deion and the others during the highlights afterwards talking about the game. If flacco played like he did last night for the rest of the year I have no doubt we'll be in the super bowl. The steelers defense for once left us with too much time on the clock and werent expecting Flacco to march down the field. Just imagine if this was an afc championship game, I might have smoked my first cigar.

Oh yeah, I saw Sanders nearly weeping on the post-game show.:awesome:

It's just up to us to win more Playoff games, the AFC title, & Super Bowl Championships.
 
IF. Honestly, I'm having a hard time seeing any team beating Green Bay. Every team in the league has flaws. HUGE flaws. I blame this on the lack of a full off-season. No team in the league right now is really elite. But Green Bay has shown all season that they are the only team who can consistently overcome their flaws in crunch time and win in-spite of them.
Well there is a lot of football left to be played. Green Bay I'm guessing loses at least one game this season. Even if they did go 16-0, we've already been through what can happen with the 2007 Patriots.
 
I thimk Tim Tebow is a good dude, but given his skill set, it's going to be hard for him to have long term success as an NFL QB. I don't understand how anyone could dislike Tebow as a person.
 
I don't even think that many people probably hate Tebow the person. It's the coverage and overhype that rubs everyone the wrong way.

Personally, I don't care much one way or the other.
 
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