2011 NFL Thread: The Lazarus Season - Part 6

[The Morningstar]

Lewis is just as guilty as Big Ben of what he did.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

Neither is guilty, as neither was convicted of what they were accused of.

Roethlisberger is just a bigger idiot for getting himself into that position twice.

 

[SpeterMan3]

<<== Haynesworth? Really?

 

[Matt]

I'm a Bengals fan.

I am obligated to hate Ben Roethlisberger.

I'm a Pittsburgh fan and I hate him.

 

[Donut]

Albert Haynesworth’s next ex-team is the Buccaneers

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/sh...-8217-s-next-ex-team-is-the-B?urn=nfl-wp11515

 

[BlackLantern]

he's a rental for this season....no way they pick him up next season and pay him 6 mil

 

[Boom]

I'm a Pittsburgh fan and I hate him.

That's why I love you, Matt .

 

[Genesis 1.0]

Doesn't anyone look at evidence anymore?

You're obviously a Ravens fan so I wouldn't expect you to see Ray's case with an unbiased perspective.

Come on, that's a bit of a cop out.

Fact of the matter is Ray actually garners respect from the active Players in the League while Big Ben, for whatever reason, always gets a negative reaction on his character. He's an excellent QB but people just don't like him & everything I've said has been documented before, so there's no opinion involved.

 

[Immortalfire]

Albert Haynesworth’s next ex-team is the Buccaneers

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/sh...-8217-s-next-ex-team-is-the-B?urn=nfl-wp11515

I guess Tampa had some extra cash they needed to waste.

 

[Hound55]

Everyone needs a hobby...

 

[Erzengel]

I was in Las Vegas last weekend, and after an In-N-Out lunch we headed over to New York, New York to find a bar to watch the Giants vs. Patriots.

It is a great place to watch a game. I saw Jerseys from Cities I normally never saw living on the East Coast.

Sat a bar with quite a few Patriots fan who grew silent at the end. I think it was me and one other guy supporting the Giants. But the bar was definitely more into the Green Bay vs. San Deigo and the Denver vs. Oakland game.

We nursed our drinks and couldn't contain our cheers as NY took the lead twice in the 4th quarter. After the game, we noticed Patriots fans who looked dejected as they saw my t-shirt and hat ensemble. It was a good game but was definitely on edge for most of it.

 

[Immortalfire]

Great story, Erz

 

[L.A.]

Meh! If it doesn't have a happy ending in Vegas than it is not a great story!!!

 

[Yurka]

Come on, that's a bit of a cop out.

How is that a cop out?

It seems that many on the list were placed mainly due to off the field issues, and Ray was involved in a situation worse than some on this list. (Burress is 2nd most disliked? Really?)

Fact of the matter is Ray actually garners respect from the active Players in the League while Big Ben, for whatever reason, always gets a negative reaction on his character. He's an excellent QB but people just don't like him & everything I've said has been documented before, so there's no opinion involved.

I understand that, but like I said it seems this list was put together based on player off-field issues and scandals, so therefore I don't understand how Ray can be left off it. I'm not defending Ben, but if this list is mainly based on scandals and police reports, they've left off some more "deserving" candidates, but it most likely has to do with who is in the spotlight at the current time.

 

[Genesis 1.0]

It's based on off the field issues as well as their play on the field but most importantly, it's how the active Players feel about them as a whole. Obviously they've gotten over Ray's alleged actions & have focused on his dedication to the game that still has him on the field for his 16th season.

On that same note, they dislike Roethislberger's attitude, alleged actions, & choose to ignore his on the field success.

It's not a ranking according to crimes, alleged & actual convictions, it's how the NFL Players feel about their peers.

 

[steintym]

It didn't seem like there was much criteria, just which players do you not like for whatever reason. Some guys are just viewed as d-bags and others are liked no matter what.

Personally, I'd have quite a few Packers on the list. Screw you Aaron Rodgers.

 

[Hound55]

You only hate because he's beautiful...

 

[Erzengel]

 

[steintym]

You only hate because he's beautiful...

He needs the big porn style mustache back and I'll show some love.

 

[Hound55]

Well, it is Movember...

 

[Genesis 1.0]

http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22475988/33211235

There's a Top 10 Most Overrated Players out as voted on by the Players & here are the results:

1. Denver Broncos QB Tim Tebow&#8212;22
2. Dallas Cowboys QB Tony Romo&#8212;21
3. New York Jets QB Mark Sanchez&#8212;9
4. Detroit Lions DT Ndamukong Suh&#8212;6
5. Tennessee Titans RB Chris Johnson&#8212;5
6. New England Patriots WR Chad Ochocinco&#8212;5
7. New England Patriots QB Tom Brady&#8212;3
8. Arizona Cardinals QB Kevin Kolb&#8212;3
9. San Diego Chargers QB Philip Rivers&#8212;3
10. Arizona Cardinals DL Darnell Dockett&#8212;2

The rest: Jacksonville Jaguars RB Maurice Jones-Drew&#8212;2,
Washington Redskins CB DeAngelo Hall&#8212;2,
New York Giants QB Eli Manning&#8212;2,
Miami Dolphins WR Brandon Marshall&#8212;2,
New York Jets CB Darrelle Revis&#8212;2,
New York Jets LB Bart Scott&#8212;2,
Chicago Bears LB Brian Urlacher&#8212;2.

 

[Boom]

How is Chad Johnson overrated?

Everyone knows how useless he's been in New England.

 

[Sith Scotti]

http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22475988/33211235

There's a Top 10 Most Overrated Players out as voted on by the Players & here are the results:

I am getting really tired of Eli Manning being called overrated . At this point he is clearly underrated

 

[steintym]

I pretty much agree with that list as well, although I'm not sure I'd include Brady. Outside of 2-3 teams, everyone would take him as their QB.

Although, I guess because of the hype around him, some would consider him overrated.

 

[Boom]

Meanwhile, Aaron Rodgers continues to live up to his reputation .