5.09 Lexmas (Spoilers)

Serene said:
That's exactly what I thought too. I guess it would make sense from Lex's perspective.
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That's what drew me to that conclusion and she was standing right in front. Lois didnt appear to be in the scene anywhere.
 
considering Lex has only one encounter with Lois in 28 episodes, it's a wonder he even remembers who she is...
 
avidreader said:
Are you saying that he cant even perform the deed or that he just cant recreate? I would like to think that he could share himself with a woman, as long as she knew all about him. :)
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Sorry, I wasn't clear. Clark CAN have sex with a human. I never subscribed to that man of steel woman of kleenex nonsense, or whatever that website is called. Funny stuff, yes, but not "accurate" in my mind. Clark has all the parts necessary for the act. *ahem* But while his anatomical appearance is the same, his biology is radically different. Clark has a triple helix of DNA. He's an alien. While he can have sex and enjoy the moment, he can't actually father a child with a human. Here's a guy that for all intents and purposes, will always have people around him - in point of fact he'll outlive them all - but he'll always be alone in that any family he has will always be one he adopts, not procreates. That's what makes his story bittersweet in my mind.
 
AgentPat said:
Sorry, I wasn't clear. Clark CAN have sex with a human. I never subscribed to that man of steel woman of kleenex nonsense, or whatever that website is called. Funny stuff, yes, but not "accurate" in my mind. Clark has all the parts necessary for the act. *ahem* But while his anatomical appearance is the same, his biology is radically different. Clark has a triple helix of DNA. He's an alien. While he can have sex and enjoy the moment, he can't actually father a child with a human. Here's a guy that for all intents and purposes, will always have people around him - in point of fact he'll outlive them all - but he'll always be alone in that any family he has will always be one he adopts, not procreates. That's what makes his story bittersweet in my mind.
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Yeah, I'm glad you dont subscribe to that theory. Realistic or not, it just doesnt seem right or fair.

It's sad to think that he cant recreate, but genetics in the future just might find a way.
 
LEX IS VISITED BY THE GHOST OF CHRISTMAS FUTURE - Lex (Michael Rosenbaum) is given an envelope with damaging information that will destroy Jonathan's (John Schneider) life and must decide whether he will use it as it will also bring harm to Clark (Tom Welling) and Martha (Annette O'Toole). Before he can decide what to do, Lex is shot and falls into a coma. He dreams that his mother (Alisen Down) visits him and shows him the life he could lead if he walks away from his father (John Glover) and LuthorCorp. In this alternate life, Lex is happily married to Lana (Kristin Kreuk) with a baby on the way. Meanwhile, Chloe (Allison Mack) asks Clark to use his powers to deliver Christmas presents to needy kids. Erica Durance also stars. Holly Harold wrote the episode directed by Rick Rosenthal (#2T6409).
 
I wonder what the damaging news is.


He consorted with Lionel Luthor to be part of a bogus adoption. :rolleyes:
 
Wonder what happens when Past and Present visit scroo . . .er Lex
 
avidreader said:
I wonder what the damaging news is.


He consorted with Lionel Luthor to be part of a bogus adoption. :rolleyes:
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Yeah, :rolleyes: is right, but the way that's written makes it sound like it just might be that.
 
C'mon guys, it's not how the adoption happened, but WHAT he adopted that's going to be the real issue.... BTW I wonder if they'll mention what party JK and LL are running for respectively? I doubt it, sicne they probably dont want to alienate any parts of the fan base...
 
But the thing is, if Lex found out WHAT he adopted, then the whole issue would balloon into something much, much bigger than just who wins a state senate race. I'm not sure they'd be willing to take it that far at this point.
 
good point, when I read it the first time I had thought it said that he went into the coma before he found out about it. If he knows the secret, it's got to be something unrelated to Clark's secret.But what else would hurt Clark and Martha? :confused: Losing the farm again? Or perhaps Jonathan "strayed" from the nest once or twice LOL :D
 
I can't see that being it -- I know he's got his faults, but that one wouldn't fit him. He worships the ground Martha walks on. To tie in well with the story and to be something that will "harm" Martha and Clark, I think it has to be something related to Clark's secret. Just not something big enough so that Lex learns everything about the secret. The "adoption" method fits the criteria.
 
Well we never actually found out what happened between Jonathan and Nell. Although, I think that's one of those stories they'd rather sweep under the rug. But you never know.

If it is the adoption then it may not necessarily lead to Clark's origins. Clark did say in Splinter that if anything came out they would deal with it as a family.
 
The Incredible Hulk said:
good point, when I read it the first time I had thought it said that he went into the coma before he found out about it. If he knows the secret, it's got to be something unrelated to Clark's secret. But what else would hurt Clark and Martha? :confused: Losing the farm again? Or perhaps Jonathan "strayed" from the nest once or twice LOL :D
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Well we know it's not rising auto insurance premiums
 
maybe what is damaging is Clarks one man crime wave? Thats the best I can come up with. Im sure it'll be something they make up specifically for this episode.
 
Or what if Lex had security cameras in the cave all the way back in s3 and got Jonathan's little conversation with Jor-El on tape? That would freak people out, even if they couldn't tell what was going on. At best they'd probably think he was deranged.
 
avidreader said:
Well we never actually found out what happened between Jonathan and Nell. Although, I think that's one of those stories they'd rather sweep under the rug. But you never know.
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The Pilot script said they were high school sweethearts and were the Homecoming King and Queen.... (scene 5, page 4) but I believe that line was later cut so it's probably not canon.

There was another episode later in the first season where Lana's talking to Clark and makes reference to Nell and Jonathan dating and how weird it was that their adoptive parents dated.

I don't remember which episode it was but they were talking on the porch...

avidreader said:
If it is the adoption then it may not necessarily lead to Clark's origins. Clark did say in Splinter that if anything came out they would deal with it as a family.
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I don't think it will be the adoption, they've already gone over that territory in Lineage unless there is something more that happened with the adoption that wasn't already covered in that episode.
 
Serene said:
Both K-Site and DTS (DTKK) have some great pictures posted from Lexmas.

Lana really does look radiant with that basketball under her shirt. ;)
http://www.devotedfansnetwork.com/gallery/files/6/2/5-09_02.jpg

And I just love this picture of the two girlfriends with their Christmas smiles on.
http://www.devotedtokristinkreuk.com/images/stills/kk-lexmas-11.jpg
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Ok, Lana & Lex married with one child and another on the way. It's too good to be true. BTW, lana for the first time looks happy & Beautiful to me. ( Ok..This is with out question a dream episode.) I'm looking forward to this episode .
 
A couple more thoughts on the "information": Number one, "bring harm" to Clark and Martha sounds more serious than just something that would upset them. It sounds like something that could actually hurt or endanger them. (Although WB descriptions aren't always strictly accurate.) Number two, Lex knew he didn't have to use those pictures of Jennings earlier because the press would find them and the police already had. All he had to do in that instance was sit back and wait. Now, what kind of information would it be that Lex would HAVE to bring to the press's attention, that they couldn't discover on their own?
 
GinaRenee said:
A couple more thoughts on the "information": Number one, "bring harm" to Clark and Martha sounds more serious than just something that would upset them. It sounds like something that could actually hurt or endanger them. (Although WB descriptions aren't always strictly accurate.) Number two, Lex knew he didn't have to use those pictures of Jennings earlier because the press would find them and the police already had. All he had to do in that instance was sit back and wait. Now, what kind of information would it be that Lex would HAVE to bring to the press's attention, that they couldn't discover on their own?
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Good point. The plot thickens.
 
From the WB's description it sounds like this dream is a true depiction of what Lex's life would be like if he had chosen the good path, since his mother is the guide and whatnot. It makes one wonder what Lex will be thinking when he comes out of the coma, will he be influenced to try and be a better person? Especially considering he and Lana are together in the dream, and that is something he very much wants.
 
Serene said:
Both K-Site and DTS (DTKK) have some great pictures posted from Lexmas.

Lana really does look radiant with that basketball under her shirt. ;)
http://www.devotedfansnetwork.com/gallery/files/6/2/5-09_02.jpg

And I just love this picture of the two girlfriends with their Christmas smiles on.
http://www.devotedtokristinkreuk.com/images/stills/kk-lexmas-11.jpg
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heh I saw those, the Lex/Lana pics look like something out of a commercial for cotton or "Bed, Bath & Beyond"... The christmas pics look a bit weird, hey Jonathan, Malcolm X called, he wants his glasses back :)
 
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