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50 dead after mass shooting at popular Orlando nightclub

Got to be a hate crime. Looks coordinated. Dylann Roof take 2. Two shootings by looneys in Orlando the same weekend.
 
I wonder if there's any relation to the Christina Grimmie shooting. Same city.
 
I wonder if there's any relation to the Christina Grimmie shooting. Same city.

Doubt it. The circumstances are vastly different. Just a stroke of bad luck for Orlando.
 
Got to be a hate crime. Looks coordinated. Dylann Roof take 2. Two shootings by looneys in Orlando the same weekend.

Only a regressive liberal would think that any attack against a specific demographic group must be a hate crime. It's likely, but it's not the only option.
 
No. But a lot of infamously stupid **** happens in Florida.
 
Only a regressive liberal would think that any attack against a specific demographic group must be a hate crime. It's likely, but it's not the only option.

I guess every other bar in a major metropolitan area is a gay bar these days. But we will find out.
 
The official information looks pretty bad from what I can piece together:

- Linked to Islamic terrorism
- The shooting did not begin in the nightclub. he fled into the densely packed establishment. So basically the police chased a heavily armed suspect into a tightly confined space with numerous innocent civilians.

The last part makes me think someone seriously ****ed up.
 
Have they confirmed any of that? Last I saw on CNN they said there were leanings, though nothing had been confirmed.
 
I'm not one to trust the official line automatically, but when someone like the FBI spokesman "suggests" links to Islamic terrorism to the media, he's usually not just blowing smoke.
 
Shooter is identified as Omar Mateen.

inb4:

"A shooting at a gay night club? Must be a hate crime."

"The shooter is Muslim? Hate crime? Hang on, let's not jump to conclusions…"

Everyone is going to interpret it according to their biases now...
 
inb4:

"A shooting at a gay night club? Must be a hate crime."

"The shooter is Muslim? Hate crime? Hang on, let's not jump to conclusions…"

Everyone is going to interpret it according to their biases now...

Indeed.
 
Anyone feel like taking bets on the % increase in support for Trump in the next fortnight?
 
US citizen apparently. If it's terrorism there's not a hell of a lot you can do about local crazies.
 
US citizen apparently. If it's terrorism there's not a hell of a lot you can do about local crazies.

Try telling that to that chimp in a toupee Trump.

If anything this gives him ammunition to double down on his rhetoric, the mass media will stoke it and the audience will lap it up - same as after San Bernardino.
 
Strap yourselves in, we're in for a wild ride with jumps to conclusions and everyone driving their agenda.
 
Try telling that to that chimp in a toupee Trump.

If anything this gives him ammunition to double down on his rhetoric, the mass media will stoke it and the audience will lap it up - same as after San Bernardino.


Well, nothing I have to worry about as I don't live in your country.
 
They're calling this terrorism, but as far as I know the shooter didn't have a political or ideological goal. If he did, he did a piss poor job of showing it. Maybe the colloquial definition has changed, I don't know.
 

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