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600 people get deluxe Norovirus package on cruise ship

Teelie

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This is becoming a routine for cruise ships. Board one and either literally **** your pants to dehydration or get the alternative where the engines catch on fire and it becomes the "poop cruise" or they make landfall on a reef or get trapped in ice.

So who wants to go on a cruise? :woot:

A 10-day Royal Caribbean cruise ship will return two days early after an outbreak of gastrointestinal illness, the cruise line said Sunday.

According to Bernadette Burden, a spokeswoman with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, more than 600 people on the ship have become ill. Passengers and crew members reported vomiting and diarrhea.

"New reports of illness have decreased day-over-day, and many guests are again up and about. Nevertheless, the disruptions caused by the early wave of illness means that we were unable to deliver the vacation our guests were expecting," the cruise line said in a statement.

"After consultation between our medical team and representatives of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, we think the right thing to do is to bring our guests home early, and use the extra time to sanitize the ship even more thoroughly," the company said.

Explorer of the Seas left January 21 from Cape Liberty, New Jersey, and it has been in the Caribbean.

After returning to its home port on Wednesday, the cruise line said it would perform a "thorough 'barrier' sanitization program on the entire ship to make certain that any remaining traces of the illness are eliminated."

The cause of the illness was not immediately clear, though symptoms are consistent with norovirus, the cruise line said.

Noroviruses spread easily and are a common cause of gastroenteritis, which produces vomiting and diarrhea.

According to Burden, the CDC spokeswoman, 577 of the 3,050 passengers and 49 of 1,165 crew members reported being ill.

Joseph Angelillo was one such person. He said he thought, at first, he just had food poisoning.

"I started with upset stomach and vomiting, and that lasted all night and into the morning," he told CNN by phone Sunday.

He said some entertainers were sick and shows had to be canceled.

"If I can get off (the ship), I will," Angelillo said.
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I never understood the appeal of these cruises.

But then I go on vacation to get away from people, not to be trapped with them at sea.
 
I'd be interested in a cruise, but not on a cruise ship. And not with hundreds of other people like this. I've been on old wooden schooners, paddle-wheel boats, even an aircraft carrier and they all had their appeal but none of them were more than a few hours and none of them were fancied up like these cruises are.
 
My sister worked on cruise ships for a few years. She said they were a hellhole. There was the 14-18 hour shifts that ran 5-7 days a week, the fact that on one of the ships she worked there was a known rapist working on it, the utter refusal of any of the higher ups to deal with any form of complaints among many other issues.
 
I never understood the appeal of these cruises.

But then I go on vacation to get away from people, not to be trapped with them at sea.

I don't get it either. It's like going away on vacation but never leaving your hotel.
 
If I believed in hell, I would imagine it to be a lot like a cruise: too many kids, too many obese people, not enough room, and being totally trapped in a confined area for a week or more.
 
My sister worked on cruise ships for a few years. She said they were a hellhole. There was the 14-18 hour shifts that ran 5-7 days a week, the fact that on one of the ships she worked there was a known rapist working on it, the utter refusal of any of the higher ups to deal with any form of complaints among many other issues.
I have found they are usually home-ported in countries that don't require any kind of oversight or regulation and often have employees who are from third world countries with cheap, exploitable labor.

About the only positive thing I can say for them is at least they are sourcing their employees from countries where unemployment is high. Though it's negated by the long hours/low pay they recieve as compensation.
 
I have found they are usually home-ported in countries that don't require any kind of oversight or regulation and often have employees who are from third world countries with cheap, exploitable labor.

About the only positive thing I can say for them is at least they are sourcing their employees from countries where unemployment is high. Though it's negated by the long hours/low pay they recieve as compensation.

Yep. Cruise ships are essentially floating septic tanks with amusement built in.

"I have a few thousand dollars and two weeks of vacation time saved up. I could fly anywhere for two weeks or i could climb aboard a septic tank and be trapped with mine and other's filth and germs for two weeks...what could go wrong!"
 
I went on a Mediterranean cruise nearly 4 years ago and it was awesome.


Clearly it was a one in a million occurrence.
 
I love cruises and I'm sorry to hear this happened to RC. I love that line and always recommend them.

The really sad thing is most of these viruses are caused by poor sanitation habits from the passengers. This includes people going to the restroom and not cleaning their hands afterwards, then trailing their hands on the railings as they walk, which everyone else does also. Or these same dirty ass people will go and grab something from the buffet without using tongs. That's a sure way to make everyone sick and I know this for certainty since I've been on plenty of Navy ships were the entire crew was sick because some dirty eff didn't wipe his hands after going to the head.
 
I've been on 5 cruises in my life basically around the Caribbean and Central/South America. I love cruising.

Royal Caribbean is essentially the casual and family oriented cruise. I've been on two of them and never had any issue.
 
There's been a second outbreak of 173 people on another cruise ship.

Looks like they're still handing out those packages of Norovirus.
 
*shakes head*

This time Princess Cruises? Wow...I think the cruise lines need to be proactive about this. I've been on a ton of cruises, civilian and otherwise, and I think they need to incorporate hygiene training when they do lifeboat training. That's usually done the first day the ship is underway, so I think they should include it. Make passengers watch a film about good hygiene. They also should provide more hand sanitizers and signs regarding good hygiene. May seem redundant, but considering how often this is happening I think it should become part of every cruise ship's line up.
 
If I had thousands to blow, then damn a cruise. Just give me an island getaway.
 
If I had thousands to blow, then damn a cruise. Just give me an island getaway.
Cruises have become more cheap. You could get a decent 3-4 day cruise for $399 per person. Cruises used to be very expensive, but they're not any longer. I hate to say this, but the fact they are so cheap now may be why you have an influx of....all types of people taking cruises. Just saying...sometimes it's good to keep things pricey. Helps do away with the riff-raff... Just saying....
 
Cruises have become more cheap. You could get a decent 3-4 day cruise for $399 per person. Cruises used to be very expensive, but they're not any longer. I hate to say this, but the fact they are so cheap now may be why you have an influx of....all types of people taking cruises. Just saying...sometimes it's good to keep things pricey. Helps do away with the riff-raff... Just saying....

As cruel as that may come off as, I definitely understand what you're saying.

With that said, thank sweet baby Jesus that I live near a beach. June can't get here soon enough.
 
So much negativity? Cruise ships are awesome, if it's not your cup of tea then just keep it to yourself instead of starting to b*** about other people daring to like it.
 
I guess they should start putting in their brochures they get a bonus viral infection with each ticket.
 
So much negativity? Cruise ships are awesome, if it's not your cup of tea then just keep it to yourself instead of starting to b*** about other people daring to like it.
All of the thousands of people who have gotten sick, stranded or died on cruises the past few years probably thought the same thing before they experienced this kind of hell.

And to mention it again, the crew on these ships are almost always low-paid workers from poor countries who are used for cheap labor. Another possibility for the spread of some diseases since likely they haven't been vaccinated or have been exposed to stuff we never encounter. Hence, the huge outbreaks of Norovirus.
 
"poop cruise" hilarious

What isn't hilarious is that this has happened multiple times with multiple companies. You figure after the first one happened there would be some serious crack downs on laws and regulations.
 
There would be but they're all based in countries that lack laws and regulations.
 
All of the thousands of people who have gotten sick, stranded or died on cruises the past few years probably thought the same thing before they experienced this kind of hell.

And to mention it again, the crew on these ships are almost always low-paid workers from poor countries who are used for cheap labor. Another possibility for the spread of some diseases since likely they haven't been vaccinated or have been exposed to stuff we never encounter. Hence, the huge outbreaks of Norovirus.

And these kind of incidentes need to be dealt with, that's absolutelly true, but it's no reason to completelly end with cruise ships, why would you do that? They can sometimes have an hellish work, expecially if you work on poorer countries, but not every cruise ship is in those places, which frankly should get more security when it comes to the health and care of those onboard, including the people who work there.

There are multiple cruise ships around Europe, and i can assure you that most are secure, and while the people onboard may have a difficult time, most of them enjoy being there. You're just generalising something as if it was the case all around the world.
 
Wife and I have been on seven cruises in the past 10 years (last one was 2011); 3 RC, 2 Princess, 1 Carnival and 1 Disney. We've only had one issue in that time and it was non-health related. That being said, we definitely noticed a difference between the quality of the ships between RC/Princess and Carnival. One Carnival cruise was enough.

Most of the passengers on our RC trips are middle age and up. Being in the "over 40" crowd ourselves, we prefer the RC lines to some of the others.
 
To be fair, I'm hardly the only one generalizing it. The problem is finding relaible records since the cruise ship industry is keen on keeping records difficult to find of injuries, deaths, accidents, fires, people who go missing (113 between 2009 and 2014 so far) or if you get robbed, don't expect help, etc. Not to mention their environmental impact. They are pollution factories.

Their crews as I said are mistreated third world country citizens.

Though most companies like Carnival are headquartered in the U.S., they are able to skirt U.S. labor laws and taxes by incorporating overseas and flying foreign flags, called “flags of convenience.” Their crews are primarily foreign, with many hailing from Third World countries and knowing only rudimentary English—long considered a safety concern for communications during a disaster. Workers from the Philippines make up the largest percentage of employees, according to the Cruise Lines International Association. Asked what percentage of crew, generally, are U.S. citizens, a CLIA spokeswoman tells Newsweek, “It is a small percentage.”

It’s no wonder that few Americans work on cruise ships. Crew members are routinely taken advantage of, working months on end with few days off, often laboring under unsafe conditions and provided with poor medical care when they are ill, say critics like Miami attorney Charles Lipcon. “It’s like slavery,” Lipcon says. “It’s the modern-day version of the sweatshop.”

But the crew will work hard for every penny, and, separated from their families, agree to the long hours. Some percentage of them are likely in debt, having fallen prey to unscrupulous agents who help them get these shipboard jobs in exchange for an advance cut of their salaries (up to $4,000 in some cases, says a maritime attorney). As with the underground labor market in the U.S., crew members generally make more money than they would at home. A CLIA spokesperson notes that “crew members are often paid higher wages and provided more opportunity than is available in their home countries. When working on a cruise ship, expenses are kept low, considering housing, utilities, food, and medical and dental care are provided all by the cruise lines. In fact, 80 percent of crew members return for multiple work engagements.” Carnival boasts that “many shipboard team members support entire families in their home countries with their salary while others have used their income to send children to college, build homes, and establish businesses.”

A subsidiary of Carnival in the U.K., P&O Cruises, recently announced it would pay its crew members a basic salary of 75 pence an hour (about $1.20 U.S.), with automatic gratuities added to the passengers’ bills. But rather than forwarding the tips to the crew, the cruise line has threatened to withhold them from crew members whose customer-service rating falls below 92 percent, according to the British press. There is little fear of lack of workers; Carnival U.K. CEO David Dingle told The Guardian that “we have a manning office in Mumbai. There are queues out on to the street.”
And health regulations? You won't want to read this.

So nope, not the only one. :woot:
 

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