A better FF movie or Silver Surfer movie?

[Kevin Roegele]

IMO, not a very good adaption of the Fantastic Four, but a good attempt at the Surfer.

 

[Franklin Richards]

MORE FF!!! You wanna introduce another character? Fine with me.


Just do it in the FF. Bring on Namor! The Inhumans! Black Panther!
Whoever you want to do a movie about. Just make sure BP is helping them kick Annihilus' ass!

 

[Savage]

Bring on the Surfer. The Fantastic Four feel just about done. Unless people want some Franklin Richards and Herbie action...Maybe get a Power Pack spinoff after.

 

[DX]

No more FF....just a Tim Story-free Surfer movie.

 

[SPIDER-MAN-ROX]

Let Fantastic Four rest for a while & bring on a whole Silver Surfer movie. Unless the Silver Surfer somehow ends back up on earth in a stand alone movie then an all Silver Surfer movie will deal with all alien characters. Maybe they will treat it like a prequel movie to ROTSS & introduce Nornin Radd & then the events that lead up to how he becomes the Silver Surfer & became Galactus's Herald & then all the events in ROTSS could be the culmination to the Silver Surfer story. Other than that what else is there to cover?

 

[Fantastic-Boy]

I really don't know!

 

[Malus]

I like that third option.

 

[highguard]

^^^ hahahah, there is no third option Malus lol, .........but if they did it should have been, do them both. As I keep saying one is not a substitute for the other. Marvel does not skip an issue of FF everytime they put out an issue of SS.

In the movies Fox needs to understand that they are not substitutes for each other. The FF fans are not necessarily going to go over and get all excited about SS. I think SS is a Fox fixation but like a lot of the fascination with him it is as a role character, that is the way it has often been with me.

What really draws us to SS, his sacrifice or the fascination of his place in the universe in conjunction with his connection to Galactus, which Fox messed with. His film should be a 70-80 million dollar movie that sets up his origin, beyond that can you really see him becoming a major franchise. Doing aliens is not impossible but do you really think Fox is the Studio that can pull this off. The alien personna alone is going to be hard to connect him with audiences. Singers Superman seemed truly detached and as you can see his movie lacked the zing of joy Superman evoked in his first movie.

SS has had long running series but has never been as popular as the FF. I think you will find the same thing with the movies.

Finally a speculation. It is the Fantastic Four that the majority of people really want to see, not the silver surfer.The FF are icons and that is why despite the savaging of the FF mythology they still made money at the box office, in spite of the abject mismanagement of Fox with this storied franchise.

Anyway they need to bring us FF3 and introduce some more characters.

If they want they can also do the SS movie. I would go see it at the theater, but I don't have to see it opening day as I did with the FF, SS just does not do much for me.

 

[The Apatow Crew]

I Want Ff3!!!!!!!!!!

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

No more FF....just a Tim Story-free Surfer movie.

Agreed 100%, the Surfer made this movie for me.

 

[DX]

Agreed 100%, the Surfer made this movie for me.

Nah.....he was disappointing in FF2 IMO.



But apparently Alex Proyas is directing the SS film so maybe they could make him work....He's a good director (Watch I, Robot).

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Nah.....he was disappointing in FF2 IMO.



But apparently Alex Proyas is directing the SS film so maybe they could make him work....He's a good director (Watch I, Robot).

He was by far the best thing in the movie for me, the only thing i hated about him was that his board is the source of his power, but this was down to the idiotic writers.

Alex Proyas did swear after I, Robot he would never work for Fox again, so at this point, i dont think he'll do it.

 

[3dman27]

No more FF....just a Tim Story-free Surfer movie.

BETTER YET A TIM STORY FREE FF

 

[bubbadoom]

Why should one exclude the other? Can we not have a better FF3 AND a solo Surfer movie. After all, we are getting Wolverine and X-Menrgins!

 

[bubbadoom]

I do not know where that smiley face came from...

 

[3dman27]

Why should one exclude the other? Can we not have a better FF3 AND a solo Surfer movie. After all, we are getting Wolverine and X-Menrgins!

in my case simple i'd prefer ben grimm&associcates over the surfer any day

 

[DX]

BETTER YET A TIM STORY FREE FF

And Alba-free.

 

[toneloak]

And Alba-free.

Quoted for *****ing Truth

On topic, I can't think of a reason for another FF movie from Fox. The studio seems to love the Silver Surfer LOVE!<3 the Surfer. The FF movies seemed like just a vehicle to get the Surfer mainstream and they did it. HELL YEAH! They did it. Now they just have too move on, let Marvel resurrect the FF franchise(sans one Alba). Fox just needs to keep pushing the Silver Surfer and everything will be right with the world.

Because, if you think they can't do a better Star Wars style movie with the Surfer you're wrong. We have twenty years of Infinity (insert conflict title here) events with Thanos(a perfect complex counter to the Surfer. Fox nows this check out the 90s SS series) they sell well, people can relate. Norrin looks like a human, Galactus is GOD, people will follow. We always have.

BTW, if you think I'm crazy for my conclusion check out this article about the FF2 great DVD sells.

Fantastic Four Tops DVD Sales and Rentals
Source: The Hollywood Reporter
October 11, 2007


The Hollywood Reporter says that 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment's Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer became the top-selling and top-renting DVD its first week in stores:

Another new DVD release, Walt Disney Studios' Platinum Edition of "The Jungle Book," bowed at No. 1 on the Nielsen VideoScan First Alert sales chart for the week ending Oct. 7, but "Silver Surfer," which debuted at No. 2, also was available in a two-pack with the original "Fantastic Four." Combined sales numbers put the summer theatrical hit slightly ahead of "The Jungle Book."

Meanwhile, on Home Media Magazine's national DVD rental chart for the same week, "Silver Surfer" easily took the top spot in its first week, generating an estimated $9.5 million in rental revenue.

"Silver Surfer" also topped the Blu-ray Disc charts its first week out, while "Knocked Up" remained at No. 1 on the HD DVD charts for the second straight week. Both titles are exclusive to their respective high-def formats.

Visit the link above for more on this.

Did you happen to notice the phasing out of FF referencing in the article. That's indicative of most things I read on this movie. Silver Surfer this, ROSS that, the Surfer being the largest image on the DVD covers. FF2, seems like a last or at the very least if FF3 is made. It's going to be about the Mole Man and Marvel cameos done on the cheap.

The plot for the Surfer movie: Thanos, Infinity Gauntlet, Universe, Surfer. Lots of booms, bangs and saplosions.
Instant Blockbuster!

 

[Iceburgeruk]

^^^ hahahah, there is no third option Malus lol, .........but if they did it should have been, do them both. As I keep saying one is not a substitute for the other. Marvel does not skip an issue of FF everytime they put out an issue of SS.

In the movies Fox needs to understand that they are not substitutes for each other. The FF fans are not necessarily going to go over and get all excited about SS. I think SS is a Fox fixation but like a lot of the fascination with him it is as a role character, that is the way it has often been with me.

What really draws us to SS, his sacrifice or the fascination of his place in the universe in conjunction with his connection to Galactus, which Fox messed with. His film should be a 70-80 million dollar movie that sets up his origin, beyond that can you really see him becoming a major franchise. Doing aliens is not impossible but do you really think Fox is the Studio that can pull this off. The alien personna alone is going to be hard to connect him with audiences. Singers Superman seemed truly detached and as you can see his movie lacked the zing of joy Superman evoked in his first movie.

SS has had long running series but has never been as popular as the FF. I think you will find the same thing with the movies.

Finally a speculation. It is the Fantastic Four that the majority of people really want to see, not the silver surfer.The FF are icons and that is why despite the savaging of the FF mythology they still made money at the box office, in spite of the abject mismanagement of Fox with this storied franchise.

Anyway they need to bring us FF3 and introduce some more characters.

If they want they can also do the SS movie. I would go see it at the theater, but I don't have to see it opening day as I did with the FF, SS just does not do much for me.

Firstly ) I think fox does understand.

I mean yes thet have stopped x-men movies to make wolvie ones but that thechnically makes sense. It was too early for x-men reallly because at the moment it is very expensive to make a film with essentially a gang of superheroes. JLA and avengers will prob do well but i can understand fox`s desire to not have to make the x-men movies at the moment.

They prob will make a ss film for say 2009 and then a ff3 for 2010 and then a ss2 for 2012.

I mean they are likely to go with that option because it gives them 2 film series for 1 franchise. The same reason they making both a wolvie and magneto movie.

Thye would have done the same with daredevil but they never quite got him and then with elektra flopping they just chickened out.

Thye prob will make both silver surfer and fantastic four movies with a gap of about a year/ year and a half between a silver surfer movie and the subsequent ff movie.

Secondly) Yes a silver surfer franchise could work. It hasen`t been done before but the dynamic of the fantastic four had never been done before on film but it worked well. Obviously for us to feel investment in the character they would prob have to make that each cosmic threat ss facews would be a threat to humanity but that isn`t to hard to pull off...
Thanos wants to destroy the universe-----Therefore humanity is kinda at risk.
Any of the others like terrax or such could be wanting to take over our galaxy or enslave mankind or destroy the earth. There are a lot of possibilities and SS has the benefit that there would be no film series like it. It would be difficult for someone to say "That SS2 Film is kinda average I mean that bit when he flies at lightspeed and piledrivers terrax through the heart of a supernova was essentially just like that bit in Batman 9 when batman kicked the joker in the shin."

It ain`t likely. With no green lantern film likley for the forseeable future silver surfer will be the only super hero within the cosmic realm and thereby that instantly gives him the same advantage that the doctor strange or namor film series will one day hopefully have in that they are playing in a sandbox which is unique and different as opposed to the normal cityscaes and canadian forests of x-men, spidey, batman and ff. Not better just different.

 

[kirbyfan]

I liked FF2, I like Tim Story and I like JA, bring on more of the FF! I'm really not interested in a SS movie, he's just a supporting character.

Now the idea of the Black Panther or the Inhumans in the next FF movie, yeah that's what I'm talking about!

A storyline like that would take the FF franchise to the next level.

 

[3dman27]

indeed kirbyfan

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Firstly ) I think fox does understand.

I mean yes thet have stopped x-men movies to make wolvie ones but that thechnically makes sense. It was too early for x-men reallly because at the moment it is very expensive to make a film with essentially a gang of superheroes. JLA and avengers will prob do well but i can understand fox`s desire to not have to make the x-men movies at the moment.

They prob will make a ss film for say 2009 and then a ff3 for 2010 and then a ss2 for 2012.

I mean they are likely to go with that option because it gives them 2 film series for 1 franchise. The same reason they making both a wolvie and magneto movie.

Thye would have done the same with daredevil but they never quite got him and then with elektra flopping they just chickened out.

Thye prob will make both silver surfer and fantastic four movies with a gap of about a year/ year and a half between a silver surfer movie and the subsequent ff movie.

Secondly) Yes a silver surfer franchise could work. It hasen`t been done before but the dynamic of the fantastic four had never been done before on film but it worked well. Obviously for us to feel investment in the character they would prob have to make that each cosmic threat ss facews would be a threat to humanity but that isn`t to hard to pull off...
Thanos wants to destroy the universe-----Therefore humanity is kinda at risk.
Any of the others like terrax or such could be wanting to take over our galaxy or enslave mankind or destroy the earth. There are a lot of possibilities and SS has the benefit that there would be no film series like it. It would be difficult for someone to say "That SS2 Film is kinda average I mean that bit when he flies at lightspeed and piledrivers terrax through the heart of a supernova was essentially just like that bit in Batman 9 when batman kicked the joker in the shin."

It ain`t likely. With no green lantern film likley for the forseeable future silver surfer will be the only super hero within the cosmic realm and thereby that instantly gives him the same advantage that the doctor strange or namor film series will one day hopefully have in that they are playing in a sandbox which is unique and different as opposed to the normal cityscaes and canadian forests of x-men, spidey, batman and ff. Not better just different.

Agreed, at this point, a Surfer movie is the best way to go IMO, he was the best character in the movie, and his story brings scope for us to see things we havent before, including Galactus himself.

 

[3dman27]

fantastic four yes silver surfer no

 

[Savage]

But I want to see Galactus. Not to mention maybe some other Heralds and THANOS!!!

 

[Casius--J]

But I want to see Galactus. Not to mention maybe some other Heralds and THANOS!!!

oh i'd love to see some Thanos.

I'm greedy so i want a better third movie and a really good solo surfer movie!

But alas its with fox soooo.........