A New Era for the Wrestling Thread

[Hunter Rider]

If we're going to do Evolution 2.0 with Seth in the Triple H role, Bron as the Batista, I'd like to see Grayson Waller join them as the Randy. And yes Becky should be with his group.

I'd like to see that, it would be a huge opportunity for Waller to step up to the next level.

 

[Hunter Rider]

 

[Hunter Rider]

Iyo with her parents at Wrestlemania.

 

[Hunter Rider]

 

[TheVileOne]

Why not just have Becky turn heel on Lyra at WrestleMania?

 

[Hunter Rider]

 

[Hunter Rider]

I love this logo, and it looks like the show will have talent on it from AAA, NXT and the main roster.

 

[TheVileOne]

I love this logo, and it looks like the show will have talent on it from AAA, NXT and the main roster.

IMHO doing this the same day as Money in the Bank makes no sense. Do Money in the Bank Saturday and then Worlds Collide on Sunday. There's no way I will be able to go to both events.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Why not just have Becky turn heel on Lyra at WrestleMania?

I think they wanted the upbeat return of Becky to end on a high because they knew how the show was ending, plus Becky pinned Liv so that put a button on their feud before the heel turn.

IMHO doing this the same day as Money in the Bank makes no sense. Do Money in the Bank Saturday and then Worlds Collide on Sunday. There's now way I will be able to go to both events.

Agreed, I don't think it did Stand & Deliver any favours being on the same day as Wrestlemania either, even just watching at home 2 wrestling shows on one day is overkill for most fans.

 

[Hunter Rider]

 

[Lobo]

With that Iyo, Stephanie, Roxy, Giulia and Rhea segment do you think they're setting up that Evolution ple?

I marked for the stare down between Rhea and Giulia

 

[blue scholar]

If this McAfee and Gunther thing is used as anything but a vehicle to get Gunther’s heat back, as people inexplicably like McAfee, then I'll throw my first major red flag on Trips. I think there'll be a match but Gunther needs to annihilate him and win, then continue beating him and a face makes the save, transitioning Gunther into a new feud with restored heat.

Gunther should make McAfee wear a crimson mask. an intense crimson mask. Or throw him off a bridge or something.

 

[blue scholar]

 

[Hunter Rider]

With that Iyo, Stephanie, Roxy, Giulia and Rhea segment do you think they're setting up that Evolution ple?

I marked for the stare down between Rhea and Giulia

Good call, I hadn't thought of that, I'm hoping first that it leads to a 6 woman tag at Backlash.

Gunther should make McAfee wear a crimson mask. an intense crimson mask. Or throw him off a bridge or something.

Yes, long term storytelling, have him hurt McAfee so badly that it takes him a couple of years to return, they can build his recovery journey on social media so I don't have to see it.......ahhh a man can dream!

 

[TheVileOne]

I think they wanted the upbeat return of Becky to end on a high because they knew how the show was ending, plus Becky pinned Liv so that put a button on their feud before the heel turn.



Agreed, I don't think it did Stand & Deliver any favours being on the same day as Wrestlemania either, even just watching at home 2 wrestling shows on one day is overkill for most fans.

Why have her beat Liv if she's just going to turn on Lyra the next night and help Liv win the titles back? If I was Liv, I'd still be ticked off. Just seems counter-intuitive.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Why have her beat Liv if she's just going to turn on Lyra the next night and help Liv win the titles back? If I was Liv, I'd still be ticked off. Just seems counter-intuitive.

She pinned Liv in a tag match to end that rivalry, Liv beat her twice in singles, I don't think it hurt Liv to take a pin in a tag, and they needed the positive moment at Wrestlemania because Cena vs Cody was next. Longterm a Becky vs Bayley feud over the IC title will be a huge boost for that belt.

 

[Lobo]

McAffey should be out for awhile and replaced by Corey Graves with a s--- eating grin on his face like he planned it .

 

[DOBSON10]

I really hope they keep it just Seth and Steiner instead of watering it down with any other guys… But if they must, I would add Finn, would give him something to do… I know everyone is gonna want another young guy or someone that hasn’t had a big break yet but I’d rather see no weak links…

 

[Dr. Evil]

A few thoughts about NXT:
- Tony D'Angelo has a very short shelf life on the main roster with his current gimmick as mafia boss. He would not be taken seriously as a legit contender for any of the titles. He drops the gimmick and maybe he's a Midcard guy, but if he gets called up, he's a lower card/catering guy.
- I want Ricky Saints' next challenger to not be Ridge Holland or Eddy Thorpe. I don't get Eddy Thorpe, why is he a thing? Hope it's Wes Lee or a TNA guy.
- Fraxiom is breaking up
- There will be tension between Sol Ruca and Zaria, especially after Sol Ruca won the NXT Women's North American Championship.
- There are a few folks in TNA I want to see in NXT, most notably Sami Callahan.
- Could Guilia get a call up?

 

[Lobo]

Seth is The Revolutionary, it looks like they're doing Evolution 2.0. Just call the new group Revolution. You could add Ricky Saints

 

[TheVileOne]

She pinned Liv in a tag match to end that rivalry, Liv beat her twice in singles, I don't think it hurt Liv to take a pin in a tag, and they needed the positive moment at Wrestlemania because Cena vs Cody was next. Longterm a Becky vs Bayley feud over the IC title will be a huge boost for that belt.

If we have to keep things equal all the time, then CM Punk or Roman Reigns should've gone over clean on Night 1, and then have Paul Heyman turn on both men the next night. Having Becky go over didn't make fans feel less negative about Night 2 after Travis Scott stunk up the joint.

 

[Hunter Rider]

If we have to keep things equal all the time, then CM Punk or Roman Reigns should've gone over clean on Night 1, and then have Paul Heyman turn on both men the next night. Having Becky go over didn't make fans feel less negative about Night 2 after Travis Scott stunk up the joint.

I don't get the comparison, Seth has a pretty big fanbase of his own, and if you deliver a classic match I don't think the least popular of the 3 winning with a heel turn hurts, the main event of night 2 not only had a negative finish, it stunk from bell to bell, so having something upbeat beforehand works. I don't see what the big deal is, Becky is victorious on her return after a year out which is pretty much booking 101, then the next night Liv & Raquel add to their record and regain the belts, and Becky goes heel to set up an IC title program that will give that title some much needed juice, I'm not seeing any downsides for anyone involved here.

 

[Broseph44]

I know there's examples like Cesaro, Ryback and Curtis Axel that didn't come off as Heyman guys, but the Brock, Punk and Roman successes show its worth trying Bron with him, and I feel certain Seth, Punk and Roman understand the mission, these 3 are going to give Bron the platform to become a top guy, and in truth I think Bron needs that to get beyond his current level, he needs a big storyline push and he's with the guys that know how to make the top storyline of the show to work.

If this McAfee and Gunther thing is used as anything but a vehicle to get Gunther’s heat back, as people inexplicably like McAfee, then I'll throw my first major red flag on Trips. I think there'll be a match but Gunther needs to annihilate him and win, then continue beating him and a face makes the save, transitioning Gunther into a new feud with restored heat.

I'm curious to see how Black (re)debuts, I think it needs to be more substantial than what they did with Rusev.





I genuinely think the Rock, for all his bravado, gets in his feels when he's criticised, when he feels the fans are genuinely upset with him. On the Raw Netflix debut I think he was wrapping up and basically put over Cody and Roman in a non physical way, which in truth I was fine with as neither match is of major interest to me, but lots of fans were angry that he just ended the Final Boss stuff and didn't get in the ring and put anyone over, feeling it was a waste of a year long angle. So he tries to rectify that by making room for a couple of appearances where he has those really schizophrenic promos wanting Cody’s soul, bouncing back and forth between heel and face mid promo, then inserts himself in the heel turn and we don't see him again. I think the heel turn for Cena was planned to go down exactly as it did, just minus the Rock, but he needlessly inserted himself, knowing there's not going to be a pay-off at Wrestlemania.

He absolutely gets in his feels

 

[Dr. Evil]

So for those who watch NXT, if Fraxiom breaks up, who's the heel and who's the face? I would think that Nathan Frazer would be the heel and Axiom the face.

 

[TheVileOne]

I don't get the comparison, Seth has a pretty big fanbase of his own, and if you deliver a classic match I don't think the least popular of the 3 winning with a heel turn hurts, the main event of night 2 not only had a negative finish, it stunk from bell to bell, so having something upbeat beforehand works. I don't see what the big deal is, Becky is victorious on her return after a year out which is pretty much booking 101, then the next night Liv & Raquel add to their record and regain the belts, and Becky goes heel to set up an IC title program that will give that title some much needed juice, I'm not seeing any downsides for anyone involved here.

For one thing, they kicked Bayley off the card to make sure Becky Lynch had her WrestleMania moment.