A serious question for the career-minded Hypesters...

Drakon

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I was watching a movie the other day [this film shall remain nameless, as to not derail this thread--and no, it wasn't porn]. Well, in this movie, a man fulfilled his dream, somewhat. It wasn't exactly on his terms, but he got a deal he had wanted all his life.

So I pose this question to you--if you had a chance to have your lifelong dream realized [Record Deal, Professional Writer, Ect], not because you were good at it, but because you knew all the right people in all the right places, would you be happy?
 
Actually, I think I'd be happy.

Some would be happy, but wouldn't be fully satisfied, though. But then again, you always will need help at one time or another in of your life, so if you had help, and it made your goal easier, then why not be happy? Just depends on your ego, I guess.
 
I find that you're either a relatively happy person or unhappy person inherent. The fact that your situation has changed doesn't, long-termwise, make somebody more happy.

Though getting what you want out of life, makes it more enjoyable, it really doesn't change the mindset of the person itself.
 
Though I still want my pina colada's and sitting in my back yard with a buckshot for any unwanted guests.
 
Well, I don't think I was too clear. Let me clarify some.

EXAMPLE:
Twylight is an accomplished writer, and is actually writing comics for a living. She's read my stuff and really likes it. If she offered me a job, I'd be grateful, definately. Not only because she was helping my dream or whatever, but because she honestly appreciates my work, not because she sees it as extra money in her pocket when my books sell.
 
Drakon said:
Well, I don't think I was too clear. Let me clarify some.

EXAMPLE:
Twylight is an accomplished writer, and is actually writing comics for a living. She's read my stuff and really likes it. If she offered me a job, I'd be grateful, definately. Not only because she was helping my dream or whatever, but because she honestly appreciates my work, not because she sees it as extra money in her pocket when my books sell.

I think you need to clarify further. Maybe get Twy to clarify it for you. :)

If I understand your question, most people are happiest when they've accomplished things through their own efforts and not because it was handed to them.

Look at how many rich kids are totally messed up and unmotivated about life, because they have everything they could want and never have to earn their way through it.
 
Put it this way. If you don't take advantage of that opportunity, will you still realize your dreams? If you will, then will you realize them in the next year? Five years? Ten years?


If you missed a once-in-a-lifetime chance, then would you still be happy about it?
 
War Lord said:
I think you need to clarify further. Maybe get Twy to clarify it for you. :)

If I understand your question, most people are happiest when they've accomplished things through their own efforts and not because it was handed to them.

Look at how many rich kids are totally messed up and unmotivated about life, because they have everything they could want and never have to earn their way through it.

I just said Twy as an example. It could have been anyone. I was just looking at the grid, so she popped into my head. And I specificed for some of those who wouldn't get it. I'm not exactly myself at the moment, so I wanted to make sure I was completely clear, since sometimes, I have a habit of explaining things in a way that only I would understand.

I completely understand what you're saying, dude. I know far too many teenagers with $20k cars and $150 shoes who really can't appreciate what they have, while I bum rides to to work and walk on my 10 year old prostetic to buy shoes from A&N.

triplefive said:
Put it this way. If you don't take advantage of that opportunity, will you still realize your dreams? If you will, then will you realize them in the next year? Five years? Ten years?

If you missed a once-in-a-lifetime chance, then would you still be happy about it?

This is also a very good point. They're gonna pay someone, it might as well be you, right?
 
Drakon said:
So I pose this question to you--if you had a chance to have your lifelong dream realized [Record Deal, Professional Writer, Ect], not because you were good at it, but because you knew all the right people in all the right places, would you be happy?

I'd be a lot happier if it were because I was good at whatever it is since you have that great sense of working hard and achieving your goal, but getting it accomplished is enough for me. I'm one who'll scrape by and be content, but if there's that one easy chance to snatch what I really want, it doesn't matter how it happens but I'm going to take it.
 
Drakon said:
This is also a very good point. They're gonna pay someone, it might as well be you, right?

It depends on your moral code. Would you (and I don't necessarily mean you in particular) be okay with taking the position from someone who is perhaps more qualified?

But your question was, would I be happy? I would. Carpe diem.
 
I think it depends on what it is you are good at, for one thing. I am a good writer, I believe it, and it is the one thing I think of before I sleep and just after I wake up. I am meant to write and there is no two ways about it. If I got a job at Marvel because I talk to Jeph Loeb and Geoff Johns on a regular basis because they shop at my comic shop, then I will not be "oh, poor me, this is all for sympathy and I don't deserve it." I would be, "At last, this is my chance to prove I am worthy of this."

There is no shame in taking a hand up as long as you let go of the hand once you are there and stand up on your own two feet.
 
Drakon said:
I was watching a movie the other day [this film shall remain nameless, as to not derail this thread--and no, it wasn't porn]. Well, in this movie, a man fulfilled his dream, somewhat. It wasn't exactly on his terms, but he got a deal he had wanted all his life.

So I pose this question to you--if you had a chance to have your lifelong dream realized [Record Deal, Professional Writer, Ect], not because you were good at it, but because you knew all the right people in all the right places, would you be happy?

NO! I know for a fact my patients won't be happy.

'Oh, 2cm distial to the Broca's area of the right hemi -- his right or mine?!?'
 
triplefive said:
Put it this way. If you don't take advantage of that opportunity, will you still realize your dreams? If you will, then will you realize them in the next year? Five years? Ten years?

If you missed a once-in-a-lifetime chance, then would you still be happy about it?

“Men often become what they believe themselves to be. If I believe I cannot do something, it makes me incapable of doing it. But when I believe I can, then I acquire the ability to do it even if I didn't have it in the beginning.” - Ghandi

;)
 
Drakon said:
I was watching a movie the other day [this film shall remain nameless, as to not derail this thread--and no, it wasn't porn]. Well, in this movie, a man fulfilled his dream, somewhat. It wasn't exactly on his terms, but he got a deal he had wanted all his life.

So I pose this question to you--if you had a chance to have your lifelong dream realized [Record Deal, Professional Writer, Ect], not because you were good at it, but because you knew all the right people in all the right places, would you be happy?

yes.Infact its how I am were I am anyways,friends of my dads.Its how i stayed away from charges in school and speeding tickets.In this world its not what you know(which includes skills you work hard to get) its who you know.Im not saying i couldent get to were i am now and mabey didge a few fines and tickets here and there myself but it woulda taken a lot more time.now the hulk collections was my doing,i made those connections but its because he taught me how.
 
it doesn't matter how you get there, what only matters is that you prove your worthiness when you get passed first base....

Infact the fact that someone has given you an outside shot really means you aren't being done a favour because you have to work ten times harder to prove your worth because you don't want to let anyone down who has gone out of their way to help you out.

if it's something you want to do then do it.
 
What's makes anything worthwhile is the struggle to attain it. It makes your achievement that much better. If everything just fell right into our laps, we wouldn't have dreams to begin with.

But if you have been wanting something your whole life, trying to achieve something but not quite getting it, and it suddenly happened somehow, that would feel great!
 
I think it'd be more important in life that you did what you loved instead of did what you just liked or tolerated so I would have no qualms being given an opportunity like that.
 
No. I don't think I could do it. I wouldn't want to live with the fact that there were people out there whose work was better, but less recognized because they didn't have the proper resources or access to them. (regardless of the artistry)

Technically, you should be asking this question to people like "The Rat," "Dr. Boll," or any celebrity that cashes in on a NY times bestseller. :o They would have unparalleled insight on what it's like to accomplish. . . .well, what you just asked.

Hmm, I wonder if any of the aforementioned surf the Hype.
 
If I was getting paid to produce comic book movies I wouldn't care if I was underqualified. As long as I have the passion and ambition nothing else matters.
 
When opportunity knocks, you damn well better answer the door with a smile.

jag
 
jaguarr said:
When opportunity knocks, you damn well better answer the door with a smile.

jag

I'll open the door with a smile and with my robe open. :) :up:
 
Erzengel said:
I'll open the door with a smile and with my robe open. :) :up:

Coincidentally, this same approach would solve Deathlok2001's issues with his nosy old lady neighbor. :up:

jag
 
Drakon said:
I was watching a movie the other day [this film shall remain nameless, as to not derail this thread--and no, it wasn't porn]. Well, in this movie, a man fulfilled his dream, somewhat. It wasn't exactly on his terms, but he got a deal he had wanted all his life.

So I pose this question to you--if you had a chance to have your lifelong dream realized [Record Deal, Professional Writer, Ect], not because you were good at it, but because you knew all the right people in all the right places, would you be happy?

No. When I can make a living off screenwriting, I want people to like my work. If the critics and fans don't like it, I have other things to do then. The last thing I want is to be the Uwe Boll of screenwriting...damn.
 
In the real world you need connections to help you acheive your goals, that's the bottom line in most cases. If you're trying to get a job, knowing someone at the company already instantly helps your chances greatly. The old rule will always apply; it's not what you know, it's who you know. The job I had before the one I'm at now I got because I had a friend at the company already and one of the people I interviewed with joined the same fraternity I was in at another school, those two reasons were large parts of what got me the job. I was totally unqualified at the time, but I quickly learned the job, did it well and enjoyed it (for a time, but that's another story entirely) and I have/had no problems of conscience with using my connections to get the job.
 

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