A Song of Ice and Fire books

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  1. Buford The Sly

    Buford The Sly Hit'n the deck

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    Clues:
    1. Who they worship. The god of many faces = death = the great Other.
    2. Jaqen H' Ghar was on his way to the wall and then turned around and went to Old Town and is getting cozy with Sam. Why? He wants Sam's horn (and probably the Dragon book from the citadel).
    3. In their origin story the kindly man tells Arya, it's clear that they have no love for Dragons.
    4. In Dany's HoTU visions there's a black and white (the colors of the faceless men) door that guards the Undying Ones.
    5. The boat full of escaping Wildings curiously just happened to show up in Braavos.
    6. Dany also symbolically sees the ants going around and over a barrier (the wall) at the end of ADWD.
    7. RE: Arya. Melisandre tells Jon that his "sister" is coming. Well we all know his real sister isn't the one that arrived at the wall. Also the show kind of dropped a book spoiler when she told Arya that they'd meet again.
    There's a lot more if you want to dive deeper here's a good link discussing these theroies http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/53858-adwd-spoilers-the-grand-faceless-men-conspiracy-theory/ It goes into Varys and all sorts of things that make a lot of sense.
    RE: Valyrian demons
    I don't think there is another "fire force" besides the dragons.
     
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  2. Victarion

    Victarion Iron Captain

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    What do you think about Victarion
    giving Dany the dragon horn in exchange for being appointed a lord of the Iron Islands once she retakes the Iron Throne?

    Given what the horn does and who its master is, and what is necessary to have a new master of the horn, this seem most likely. I really hope
    Victarion doesn't decide to blow the horn anyway, given what it does to the blower. Of course, perhaps whatever Moquorro did to heal Victarion gave his viscera the ability to resist the horn's fire magic.
     
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  3. Buford The Sly

    Buford The Sly Hit'n the deck

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    I don't know if Dany and Victarion will even interact the way things are headed. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if Dany had to go to Westeros by herself on the back of Drogon. Now a Tyrion and Victarion deal I can see happening. Remember Tyrion knows a bit about Dragons. The book he was reading when he was on the way to the wall with Jon Snow was about Dragons. And he tells Jon about his dreams of riding dragons.
     
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  4. Hush

    Hush Wee Little Puppet Man

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    8 Chapters left in AFFC and Brienne has turned into one of my favorite characters, never thought this would happen.
     
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  5. Buford The Sly

    Buford The Sly Hit'n the deck

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    I think with the casting of [BLACKOUT]Bloodraven[/BLACKOUT] we will see Bran
    progressing through his story at a much quicker pace than the rest of the characters. I think they did this for two reasons. One, it will serve to start explaining/expanding upon the more fantasy elements of the story. Two, it allows them to leave Bran's story for extended lengths of time to explain why the kid is growing up so fast. I can't wait to see how they handle the wierwood "warging". I hope we see Sean Bean again through that. Arya's going to be another problem. So I could see them speeding up her story to get to her training as well. She may be in Bravos before the end of this coming season.
     
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  6. Spidey-Bat

    Spidey-Bat Ours is the Fury

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    With Arya

    I think they'll either keep her in Westeros or have Jaqen return and be her mentor instead of the Kindly Man. So far, it hasn't been important that Jaqen supposedly went to the Citadel.
     
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    Swordmaster Big Damn Hero

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    Well he did meet up with Sam at the end of A Feast for Crows, a cliffhanger that won't be resolved until the next book because half of A Dance of Dragons was devoted to Dany being sexually frustrated. :o

    Yes I'm still bitter over that.
     
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  8. CrypticOne

    CrypticOne Poetic Violence

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    Yep. This is the most intriguing meeting, I want to see what happens.
     
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    While reading the book, that bugged me too.

    In the show? ...I'll allow it...
     
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  10. Hush

    Hush Wee Little Puppet Man

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    I just started Book 5 and man its good to catch up with some of these characters.
     
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  11. Buford The Sly

    Buford The Sly Hit'n the deck

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    I would be so against that. It's pretty clear that he's on some kind of mission there at the Citadel.
    Sam's horn is my guess. I think Sam's a goner :csad:
     
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    Wish I could see your face at the end :D
     
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    Does anyone think they'll bother putting Aeron in the show at all? There's clearly some backstory to the character alluded to with that "screeching hinge" thing, but that's about it...he really seems combinable with Victarion.
     
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    Buford The Sly Hit'n the deck

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    I think the next book will have to determine that. At this point that seems feasible. However [BLACKOUT]there are rumblings that he has some important things to do in the Winds of Winter.[/BLACKOUT]
     
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    Have you read ADWD?

    I don't think Aeron would've liked Victarion's sacrifice to all three gods, nor his acceptance of R'hllor's blessing.

    I've heard the same, Buford, on the Westeros forums. I believe it was from George himself.
     
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    That official?
     
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    I doubt it, i just found it and thought it was a cool cover.
     
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    The Moose made you do it, huh? :angry:

    Has George said anything about a release date?

    Am I the only one who prefers A Time for Wolves to Book VII's current title?
     
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  20. Spidey-Bat

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    I like A Time for Wolves more, but I think A Dream of Spring also works. It seems appropriate for a bittersweet ending that we're likely to get. A Time for Wolves kinda sounds like the Starks will get their revenge.
     
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    A Dream of Spring sounds more ASOIAF than A Time For Wolves, IMO.
     
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  22. Victarion

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    It brought to mind a title that would fit more with The Wheel of Time, for me.
     
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    Ezio Auditore Lord of Firenze

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    finally i've read all 5 books and now i'm able to enter this post:woot:

    this are my thoughts on ADWD(of course, spoilers):
    I LOVED jon's chapters and everything that happened in the North (Reek,Asha,Stannis,Melisandre, the whole plot in Winterfell, and the Bran storyline)
    i love that Manderly is fooling the Boltons (or at least i think he is). Wonder what will happen with Davos.
    i also liked Arya's chapters a lot. on the other hand..... Daenery's chapters where the worst i have read so far in the series, they just bore me, and now even more because of no Jorah.
    Tyrion's chapters where good until half the book when he was captured along with Penny and Mormont.
    And i certainly believe that the Prince Aegon this is all fake (at least i got that from what Quaithie says to Daenerys)

    great book still: 9/10


    that was exactly what i though!!
    in fact:
    Sean Bean once said in an interview that he would like to return at least in flashback form..... well, this could fulfill his wishes :woot: ç.
    i swear the moment Sean Bean appears praying for Robb and Jon to grow as brothers it will be better than Porn haha.


    also i wonder how they are going to deal with the
    "Arya" and Ramsay's wedding. i don't think Jeyne Poole has been cast right? i guess they will put a random wooman and won't include Jeyne.

    okay i'm done :woot:
    and sorry for my awful english!
     
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    He has such a lovely smirk. Is that a physical book or EBook only?
     
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