Age of Ultron Aaron Johnson is Quicksilver - Part 1

[AgentGojiraRgr]

This is probably why I think it was a dumb move

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to kill him off so suddenly. He could of easily been in one of the other solo movies to flesh out his character a bit more before he bites the bullet. But right now, it's just a waste. I mean, why do we have to have characters killed off anyway? Why? It does nothing but piss people off, and give a false sense of "things have gotten real now". Star Wars never really killed off any of the major characters, Indiana Jones never killed off any major characters,

Whedonism

Let's be glad he's out

 

[Wine-N-Cheese]

I liked him by the end of the film but I don't think they gave him much of a character. Sony's Quicksilver was far better and he had way less screen time.

Wait, wait... Sony has a Quicksilver too? This is getting really ridiculous, guys!

 

[BH/HHH]

X-Men Quicksliver - fun and way over-powered teenaged mutant who uses his power to break a person out of jail.

Avengers Quicksilver - based on the actual comicbook version of the character with actual limits to his power who uses it to save thousands of lives including sacrificing himself for Hawkeye. A REAL superhero.

I would add
X-Men Quicksilver had more persoanlity than the AVAOU version. I swear I don't get why people get so worked p when someone has a different opinion. I thought the AOU version was pretty pointless tbh whereas with the X-Men version I thought there use of him worked and he set up a few things for the next film.

 

[DanielFM]

I would add
X-Men Quicksilver had more persoanlity than the AVAOU version. I swear I don't get why people get so worked p when someone has a different opinion. I thought the AOU version was pretty pointless tbh whereas with the X-Men version I thought there use of him worked and he set up a few things for the next film.

I can't seriously understand how you find an annoying teen prankster with no motivations whatsoever to have more personality than AoU Quicksilver.
Nor how do you think X-Men's one was well used when he featured in a single, unnecessarily overblown action sequence then was left aside for no reason (when he could have solved the whole plot in 5 minutes with his extremely exaggerated super speed -or should I say time-stopping ability? ).

But I will have to learn to live with it. It seems a lot of people think like you.

 

[Greens]

In terms of characterization, AoU Quicksilver wins hands down.

The Quicksilver scene in DoFP is cool, but overhyped.

 

[Silvery]

I can't seriously understand how you find an annoying teen prankster with no motivations whatsoever to have more personality than AoU Quicksilver.
Nor how do you think X-Men's one was well used when he featured in a single, unnecessarily overblown action sequence then was left aside for no reason (when he could have solved the whole plot in 5 minutes with his extremely exaggerated super speed -or should I say time-stopping ability? ).

But I will have to learn to live with it. It seems a lot of people think like you.

I personally like both of them... (and all the cartoon and comic Quicksilvers out there too!).

DOFP Quicksilver had personality for the short time he was to see. I found him funny. His scene was maybe overpowered, but cool. However he was not... so much Pietro. I mean he had a bit of arrogance and was flawed, but in a different way. Pietro is more deeply flawed and troubled than that youth. And of course he wasn´t even called Pietro, but Peter and there was no Wanda with him and he didn´t look that much like Pietro either. But I liked him anyway.

AOU Quicksilver was more Pietro, with the look and accent and his sister and powers, but we didn´t get to see enough of him to truly see his character. A short thing here and there of being protective over his sister or cooky with Hawkeye, yes, but not enough by a long way.
He has however SO much potential to be a "real" Pietro, like in the comics, if we get the chance to see him again and to see more interaction between him and his sister, him and the other Avengers, him and Vision, should they indeed give Wanda and Vision a go.

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That is why I am so angered about his death in the movie. If they don´t bring him back somehow, it would be such a waste.

I am looking forward to see DOFP Quicksilver again next year. And I want to see AOU Quicksilver again too as soon as possible!!!

Silvery

 

[Havok83]

So was Pietro an Avenger? What do people think? Wanda had membership verbalized to her by Hawkeye and she accepted it by walking out of that building and "doing her job". At the end, she has official status as part of the New Avengers lineup. What about Quicksilver though? No one offered him membership but he fought alongside them the same as Wanda. Would he be considered an ally or maybe just an honoree member via his sacrifice?

 

[BH/HHH]

I can't seriously understand how you find an annoying teen prankster with no motivations whatsoever to have more personality than AoU Quicksilver.
Nor how do you think X-Men's one was well used when he featured in a single, unnecessarily overblown action sequence then was left aside for no reason (when he could have solved the whole plot in 5 minutes with his extremely exaggerated super speed -or should I say time-stopping ability? ).

But I will have to learn to live with it. It seems a lot of people think like you.

He was fun, the AOU version was bland and pointless in my opinion.

We will have to agree to disagree on this one.

 

[Nathan]

I say he was an Avenger. Wanda needed the pep-talk, but Pietro was out there, already doing what every other Avenger was doing as well.

 

[The_Manhunter]

No, that's not the reason. Marvel can use Quicksilver.

No one needs to die.

I still think QS's status is ambiguous. Maybe we will know his fate in Civil War.

Dr. Cho is alive for a reason.

I do grow to like him more and more as the film progresses. Same with Wanda. The twins are just people who aren't evil, they were just angry. Both of them became true heroes in the end.

I like MCU QS much better than the Fox QS. He is very heroic beneath that cocky exterior. Wish we can see more of him in the future. ''Fingers crossed''

+1, he really grew on me. Aaron Taylor-Johnson owned the role, I want to see him and the character again.

 

[MCULawyer]

Wanda blamed herself for all of the problems, and needed to be told that she could still be a good guy. Pietro slowly got less *****ey, as evidenced by the comment about SHIELD and his interaction with Hawkeye

 

[Drizzle]

I loved his reaction to seeing S.H.I.E.L.D show up to rescue his fellow Sokovians.

 

[The_Manhunter]

I assume he only did that because damn, near everyone expected Hawkeye to die. Thank god he didn't, I need some more Clint!

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I wonder if Quicksilver's death was a creative decision or if it had something to do with Fox also having a QS. I assume Marvel/Whedon got pissed that Fox seemingly added QS to their movie only because Whedon announced it.

This QS wasn't as cool as the DOFP one, but I would've liked to see more of him. His death was done decently though.

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I didn't expect Hawkeye to die, since he hadn't gotten much focus before this film, and I didn't expect QS to die either since he was new. I thought Fury was the most likely candidate because with Shield gone and the Avengers eliminating the last major Hydra base that we know of, what was his purpose?

 

[Silvery]

Just wonder...how old are the twins supposed to be in AOU?

The actor/actress are mid 20, but I read several AOU stories that have the characters younger and call them teenagers... and Hawkeye says something like this too in the movie, at least in the translation. So 17,18,19?

Silvery

 

[warhorse78]

I agree, but then if no one significant dies, then you'll have a bunch of people complain about that too (see: TDKR and The Return of the King).

Return of the King? King Theoden was the big death! And I'm talking about deaths that feel organic. Not just thrown in there for the sake of it. (say, like Harry Potter, killing off Lupin, Tonks, Fred Weasley, these felt tacked on. Dumbledore, Snape, Sirius Black and Dobby were great, organic feeling deaths)

TDK did this fantastic. They killed the love interest. No one saw that coming. But, it also felt organic, and not "ok, we have to kill someone off to raise them stakes"

Other great major character deaths, first off, anything James Cameron does. And he will kill off lots of characters, but, they feel organic, neccessary, and not just for the sake of killing a character just because.

Obi Wan in Star Wars ANH, Qui Gon Gin in TPM, Yoda in ROTJ and order 66 in ROTS.

Quentin Tarantino will kill off character favorites, but again, he does it in a way that feels organic, not tacked on.

Ridley Scott and Spielberg are a couple more directors that seem to kill of characters and keep it real feeling. And guess what, Spielberg took a major character death in the Jurassic Park book, Ian Malcolm, and had him live, which was in my opinion, the right thing to do.

I know this guy gets lots of hate, but Michael Bay with his Transformers flicks, the big death he had for me was Ironhide, but, at least we had a somewhat coherent character development for 2.5 films before he was offed, and it pissed people off, but most of it was OK, because in that scene, it worked!

 

[JaD]

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His death was very saddening and all, but what really did it for me during that scene was when/how he said "Didn't see that coming" after being shot. That was the most heartbreaking part of that entire scene for me

What about you guys? Did you guys feel the same?

I actually kinda chuckled.

I did too.

Glad I'm not the only one.

Don't want to act like a know-it-all but I think if they really wanted him to say the whole [BLACKOUT]"You didn't see that coming" line, it should have been in a moment when Hawkeye ran over to him after he collapsed and tried to help him, not as Pietro was still standing, says it, and then keels over. I found it amusing and almost in the same category as Talia's death in TDKR. Hawkeye could have ran over to try and help him, but Pietro on the ground only getting out "You didn't see that..." We get it. [/BLACKOUT] Then again, maybe that'd have been too similar to Coulson's death in The Avengers.

This seems like an extension of one of the most common issues in the movie in that it felt rushed so they couldn't take the time to have a stronger moment for him.

 

[sueb1863]

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His death was very saddening and all, but what really did it for me during that scene was when/how he said "Didn't see that coming" after being shot. That was the most heartbreaking part of that entire scene for me

What about you guys? Did you guys feel the same?

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I hated that bit. There were a few gasps in the audience when it was clear he'd been shot, but the gag line ruined the moment. I think it's confusing - are we supposed to laugh when he's obviously going to die? If somebody's been fatally wounded are the REALLY going to use their last breath to crack a lame joke? I think the moment would have been a lot more powerful if he'd said nothing and just collapsed. It's almost as if they were trying to play his death for laughs.

 

[warhorse78]

So, I've seen other folks saying this about AOU's Quicksilver.

DoFP had, you know, scenes with Quicksilver in it. AoU clearly treated him as nothing more than a throwaway character, especially since he spent half the final battle huffing and puffing.

 

[Raiden]

He was fun, the AOU version was bland and pointless in my opinion.

We will have to agree to disagree on this one.

AOU QS has a personality, an interesting background, and an arc (going from villain to hero). DOFP QS only has a cool scene, but they made him so OP that Singer left him out of the 3rd act so he won't ruin the tension.

 

[BatsDC]

So I had a thought earlier:

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What would you guys think if we found out in Civil War that Pietro is in a coma in intensive care? His enhanced metabolism would suggest it's possible, but who knows. Seems an easier way to bring him back rather than just straight up resurrect him a few movies down the line.

 

[terry78]

Just wonder...how old are the twins supposed to be in AOU?

The actor/actress are mid 20, but I read several AOU stories that have the characters younger and call them teenagers... and Hawkeye says something like this too in the movie, at least in the translation. So 17,18,19?

Silvery

Considering the time frame with the Stark shell, probably 18-19. Stark only stopped making weapons s in 2008.

 

[MahvelBaby!]

I quite enjoyed qs, I wanted him alive as much as the next guy, but I felt the scene worked.

 

[BatsDC]

20 would be my guess

 

[Superhero 101]

So I had a thought earlier:

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What would you guys think if we found out in Civil War that Pietro is in a coma in intensive care? His enhanced metabolism would suggest it's possible, but who knows. Seems an easier way to bring him back rather than just straight up resurrect him a few movies down the line.

That's a good theory, I also thought they could use Cho's machine to heal him.

 

[Solaire]

So, I've seen other folks saying this about AOU's Quicksilver.

Is that for real?

I thought QS was good in DOFP but the AoU version was far superior. I never cared for the DOFP version. One scene isn't going to be better than an actual character.