ACORN: The Official Thread

You know, our worst fear is going to be the day they shut Youtube down. I am sure they are going to try for the next election.
 
Handsome Rob said:
Meh, he's a lite socialist. Obama's the rich, full-bodied socialist. :oldrazz:
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Rob... I'm just tired of hearing socialist as a reason to vote against Obama... cause they both have a little socialist in them but the government getting into business is a little worse... because that's not as easy to implement and get rid of, as taxes on the rich are.

But seriously... I'm just tired of the word socialist in Lazur's post, I mean, aren't you Rob? :oldrazz:
 
McCain and all of his fans do know that "Voter Fraud" is not the same thing as "Voter Registration Fraud", Right? I mean there is a big difference between the two. :o
 
souvlaki said:
Anyone that is even slightly off center in the political spectrum with a D next to their name is a socialist. You should know that by now.
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Crap.

Well, I better get rid of my Obama '08 sign and replace it with a Bernie Sanders-Eugene Debs sign instead...

considering, you know, Obama isn't a socialist.
 
Superman said:
McCain and all of his fans do know that "Voter Fraud" is not the same thing as "Voter Registration Fraud", Right? I mean there is a big difference between the two. :o
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I'm beginning to wonder that myself Supe...
 
Superman said:
McCain and all of his fans do know that "Voter Fraud" is not the same thing as "Voter Registration Fraud", Right? I mean there is a big difference between the two. :o
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Honestly, I don't think they do.
 
jmanspice said:
And their party, can't forget that.
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No, that describes you. I look at each candidate on the merits of their achievements. The problem with Obama is that he doesn't have any and he's incredibly secretive about his past outside of politics when it's the only thing we have to go on...
 
jmanspice said:
Got a source to back that claim up?
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Does this mean that every time you share an educated opinion on something, we should ask for a link?

Any candidate who believes healthcare should be nationalized is, by definition, a socialist. Any candidate who says the rich should be taxed so that the wealth can be 'spread around' is a socialist. Any candidate who believes that a national healthcare system ON TOP of our already crushing 50 trillion dollar debt for these 'entitlement' programs is not only a socialist, but an irresponsible one at that.
 
StorminNorman said:
Anyone else worried about the actions of ACORN (Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now)? Its an organization that has long had ties to Obama and there are already allegation of ACORN recruiting voters to register multiple voting cards - a man interviewed said he registered 15 times with the encouragement of the organization.

ACORN is targeting vital swing states as well, even as it is being raided and investigated for voter fraud.

While I think at this point Obama will win no matter what ACORN does, this crisis is incredibly distressing.

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008/10/acornproject_vote_voting_drive.html

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/mccain_voter_fraud/2008/09/22/133361.html

http://www.kmbc.com/politics/10214492/detail.html
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Agreed. And the fact he has such long ties to them and thier shady business hurts his credibility and will for many taint his win...if he wins i'm still holding out hope.
 
:lmao:

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZGEzMzUxZGE4OGM4MDhkZDEzMjM2YjM2OThiMTljOGU=

In Support of Bill Ayers [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

There's a petition making the rounds that has academics purportedly defending Ayers against unrepentant terrorist and other (factual) labels. It also has my name on it. It has Jonah's name is on it. And it includes others who you know obviously didn't sign it. One wonders how many names are actually legit. I'm at least audacious enough to hope there's more sense out there than the petition would suggest on its surface.
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Plouffe Fights ACORN Smears: It's A Smokescreen

After days of withering attacks against ACORN and implications that the Obama campaign was using the community organizing group to perpetuate voter fraud, aides to the Illinois Democrat fought back on Tuesday.

In a conference call with reporters, campaign manager David Plouffe called the charge that ACORN was illegally registering voters (and that Obama had nefarious ties to the organization) a cynical "smokescreen" and an attempt to discourage people from going to the polls.

"This is just the start of what is going to be a very deliberate and cynical attempt to try and create confusion and challenge people inappropriately," he said. "They clearly, strategically, believe the more people who vote in this election, the less their chances are [for victory]."

At one point, Plouffe chided the conservative echo chamber that had painted ACORN -- which helps poor communities with a number of issues including voter registration and affordable housing -- as a criminal enterprise.

"Fox News has turned themselves into the 24-hour ACORN channel," he said, adding later: "We are not particular concerned with these predictable Republican tactics."

The voter registration debate is, in fact, highly predictable. Each cycle, Democrats cry afoul about voter suppression, while Republicans bemoan fraud. Victory in such political trench-warfare is usually defined in media narratives rather than registration numbers. Although the New York Times recently reported that,"Tens of thousands of eligible voters in at least six swing states have been removed from the rolls or have been blocked from registering in ways that appear to violate federal law."

In fact, despite a week of constant complaints, there has been only one lawsuit filed by a Republican group against ACORN's efforts -- The Buckeye Institute, an Ohio-based think tank, filed a state RICO action on Tuesday.

To a certain extent, the faux-outrage of conservatives this go around seems painfully transparent. John McCain, for example, gave the keynote speech at a rally co-sponsored by ACORN in 2006. Other Republicans have also praised the organization's efforts.

Nevertheless, on the conference call, the Obama campaign said it was prepared for legal battles over voter rolls should they occur either before or after the election. The team, as the Huffington Post reported, has a bevy of volunteer lawyers willing to go to work on local levels. But they don't necessarily foresee it getting to that point.

"We have a very active aggressive legal operation," said Obama's legal counsel, Bob Bauer. "But we are not terribly worried. I'm not quiet sure what Sarah Palin [who warned of ACORN stealing the election] has in mind... It is something we are going to be prepared to deal with."
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/14/plouffe-fights-back-at-ac_n_134591.html
 
lazur said:
Well you better tell the FBI that. They don't seem to agree since they're investigating ACORN in, oh, at least four states now?

But I'm sure the FBI is completely in the tank for McCain. That MUST explain it. :o
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Silly lazur, we all know that the FBI is a non-partisan governmental agency. :yay:
 
lazur said:
Well you better tell the FBI that. They don't seem to agree since they're investigating ACORN in, oh, at least four states now?

But I'm sure the FBI is completely in the tank for McCain. That MUST explain it. :o
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You do realize that Voter REGISTRATION Fraud and Voter FRAUD are completely different, right? There is no way that Mickey Mouse or 'Bubba J. Redneck' (as I believe Jman puts it :cwink:) is going to be able to vote without proper identification. There are measures put in place to stop these kinds of happenings AT THE POLLS. Just because someone has been registered to vote does not equate to an ACTUAL PHYSICAL VOTE.

Let me say that again - JUST BECAUSE A NAME HAS BEEN REGISTERED DOES NOT EQUATE TO AN ACTUAL PHYSICAL VOTE.
 
Marx said:
You do realize that Voter REGISTRATION Fraud and Voter FRAUD are completely different, right? There is no way that Mickey Mouse or 'Bubba J. Redneck' (as I believe Jman puts it :cwink:) is going to be able to vote without proper identification. There are measures put in place to stop these kinds of happenings AT THE POLLS. Just because someone has been registered to vote does not equate to an ACTUAL PHYSICAL VOTE.

Let me say that again - JUST BECAUSE A NAME HAS BEEN REGISTERED DOES NOT EQUATE TO AN ACTUAL PHYSICAL VOTE.
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Wut yous sayz?
 
Marx said:
You do realize that Voter REGISTRATION Fraud and Voter FRAUD are completely different, right? There is no way that Mickey Mouse or 'Bubba J. Redneck' (as I believe Jman puts it :cwink:) is going to be able to vote without proper identification. There are measures put in place to stop these kinds of happenings AT THE POLLS. Just because someone has been registered to vote does not equate to an ACTUAL PHYSICAL VOTE.

Let me say that again - JUST BECAUSE A NAME HAS BEEN REGISTERED DOES NOT EQUATE TO AN ACTUAL PHYSICAL VOTE.
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Bucktooth B. Redneck, sir. Get it right :cmad:
 
Marx said:
You do realize that Voter REGISTRATION Fraud and Voter FRAUD are completely different, right? There is no way that Mickey Mouse or 'Bubba J. Redneck' (as I believe Jman puts it :cwink:) is going to be able to vote without proper identification. There are measures put in place to stop these kinds of happenings AT THE POLLS. Just because someone has been registered to vote does not equate to an ACTUAL PHYSICAL VOTE.

Let me say that again - JUST BECAUSE A NAME HAS BEEN REGISTERED DOES NOT EQUATE TO AN ACTUAL PHYSICAL VOTE.
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You do realize that the FBI is investigating VOTER FRAUD - not VOTER REGISTRATION FRAUD - right?
 
jmanspice said:
He doesn't have a brother. He has a brother-father. :oldrazz:
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Ahh, I see. Thanks for the clarification! :cwink:
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