Age of Ultron Age of Ultron SPOILER thread, DO NOT enter if you don't want to be spoiled!!! - Part 1

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Cool! So ultron gets killed, they destroy his body. After SW rips his heart out he still lives through another drone.
So given ultrons nature, could you say the AI is dead? Or is he defeated.. Is there a hint of him still being alive in a cloud or cyberspace or anything ?
 
Does this mean they added an effect to his voice in the trailers that is not present in the movie? Or are most of those trailer lines from the first part of the film?

The Mark I is heavy on the mechanical sounds. The rest not so much. I thought it was fine.

If I'm reading this right the ending has Cap and Tony end on good terms so to speak?

I was expecting (hoping) to see a more fractured relationship between the two leading into Civil War. Now it seems that will occur throughout and during that film.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Yeah they leave good buddies, oh I'm gonna miss you pal, yeah take care, but first let's have some playful banter (which was funny). So I don't get CW at all from the end of the film.
 
I am okay with Vision sending the last blow to finish Ultron,but not in "the last man standing" fashion

It would be very silly to introduce a new character at the very late of film that as is powerful as Ronan/Malekith with infinity stones,that would make all the fights pointless if you just need PIS character to finish a big threat alone
Both Ronan and Malekith got killed in team fashion

Out of all the heroes doing things alone,i would imagine Thor(destroying a city is good,but killing the main threat makes a bigger impact to general audience)
That's about time for the most powerful member of AVENGERS showing his full strength(and he holds back for quite many times already) to kill the biggest threat in MCU so far in AVENGERS film,not a new character that previously didnt have any other films to build his character,that is as bad as any lame villains that MCU has pulled out in other solo films out of a sudden

Along with the fact that a robot created by a villain lifting Thor's hammer makes very little sense
Vision got to do it both at same time,and that's what disappoints me the most when I just read the spoilers

And whatever new avengers team with him in their lineup makes the team overpowered than the other,since he already is more powerful than Thor and Hulk alone in the film
So Thor going back to Asgard and Hulk hiding in Ocean only for CW makes no sense because of this


The bad thing about QS dying is the team lost a character with his unqiue power
That's just as terrible as QS having nothing to do in all DoFP fights aside from the kitchen fight
They leaves him death because his power is too useful for the team and again,will make one of the Avengers team much more powerful than the other

The GA doesnt even know who QS is,it makes no sense to say his death makes a bigger impact than people like War Machine or Agent Hill


I really hope the movie proves me wrong when I watch it myself
There are a lot of things I already dont like based on the spoilers
 
Cool! So ultron gets killed, they destroy his body. After SW rips his heart out he still lives through another drone.
So given ultrons nature, could you say the AI is dead? Or is he defeated.. Is there a hint of him still being alive in a cloud or cyberspace or anything ?

They made a point in saying let's kill every remaining last one drones there is. Even those who are running away like scared little girls (yup, that happens). So you can always go, "ahah there was ONE last remaining bots in the rubbles of the flying city"...
 
They made a point in saying let's kill every remaining last one drones there is. Even those who are running away like scared little girls (yup, that happens). So you can always go, "ahah there was ONE last remaining bots in the rubbles of the flying city"...
They don't put it that way, do they? Not in a team with Widow and Witch.
 
Before the climax. Well he's asleep during that whole Seoul chase. But he awakes, speaks, grabs that hammer and says let's go fighting.
So the Seoul sequence is late in the movie? So when do the twins switch sides?
 
The Mark I is heavy on the mechanical sounds. The rest not so much. I thought it was fine.


Yeah they leave good buddies, oh I'm gonna miss you pal, yeah take care, but first let's have some playful banter (which was funny). So I don't get CW at all from the end of the film.

I'm surprised at the last bit. A falling out happening during CW when it's already got such a huge cast seems like a bit of a risk, with all of those characters to juggle.
 
Before the climax. Well he's asleep during that whole Seoul chase. But he awakes, speaks, grabs that hammer and says let's go fighting.

Sleeping or just not activated yet?
 
I like the idea of Vision wielding Mjolnir, think about it...If Cap (being one of the strongest, purest individuals humanity has to offer) can only budge it, then it would make sense the only one other than thor that could use it would be an AI, or a newborn android of some such.

If you wanna think of it in a more thematic sense (as im hoping the film will) if Ultron is all about the evils of technology and progress and is the ultimate example of Starks weapon developing side, therefore the main issue with humanity and it's self destruction, then vision would be the other side of that coin, a pure heroic being, with none of the bad and all of the good, stark would have essentially completed his struggle that started with IM1, using his gift to help people only to be faced with people misusing it and hurting more people. What better way to come out on top than to create a hero that is worthy and pure (enough to wield mjolnir)

Again, I'm probably coming off like a broken record, but it's that kind of thematic strength and character arc building that made me enjoy iron man 3 far more than a lot of other people did, and it's just the type of stuff i hoped Avengers 2 would build on.
 
I'm surprised at the last bit. A falling out happening during CW when it's already got such a huge cast seems like a bit of a risk, with all of those characters to juggle.
They can leave it on good terms, and still be going their own ways.
 
I am okay with Vision sending the last blow to finish Ultron,but not in "the last man standing" fashion

It would be very silly to introduce a new character at the very late of film that as is powerful as Ronan/Malekith with infinity stones,that would make all the fights pointless if you just need PIS character to finish a big threat alone
Both Ronan and Malekith got killed in team fashion

Out of all the heroes doing things alone,i would imagine Thor(destroying a city is good,but killing the main threat makes a bigger impact to general audience)
That's about time for the most powerful member of AVENGERS showing his full strength(and he holds back for quite many times already) to kill the biggest threat in MCU so far in AVENGERS film,not a new character that previously didnt have any other films to build his character,that is as bad as any lame villains that MCU has pulled out in other solo films out of a sudden

Along with the fact that a robot created by a villain lifting Thor's hammer makes very little sense
Vision got to do it both at same time,and that's what disappoints me the most when I just read the spoilers

And whatever new avengers team with him in their lineup makes the team overpowered than the other,since he already is more powerful than Thor and Hulk alone in the film
So Thor going back to Asgard and Hulk hiding in Ocean only for CW makes no sense because of this


The bad thing about QS dying is the team lost a character with his unqiue power
That's just as terrible as QS having nothing to do in all DoFP fights aside from the kitchen fight
They leaves him death because his power is too useful for the team and again,will make one of the Avengers team much more powerful than the other

The GA doesnt even know who QS is,it makes no sense to say his death makes a bigger impact than people like War Machine or Agent Hill


I really hope the movie proves me wrong when I watch it myself
There are a lot of things I already dont like based on the spoilers
Vision finishing Ultron isn't that massive of a showing. He kills a drone which they will all kill. It seems like out of context spoilers are going to cause a real problem here
 
Oh here is a question I haven't seen. Is there anything special about Iron Man's Mark 45 suit?
 
Like the infinity glove, minus the Stone. And we don't know where he is (to answer another question). The scene is shot from inside the thing the glove is locked in. Then there's Thanos in the frame. Didn't get a real look of the place

So what you're saying, if I got this right, is that the Gauntlet is locked inside a "thing", and that's where Thanos is? Would this thing happen to be a room perhaps, like a "Treasure Room"?
 
So what you're saying, if I got this right, is that the Gauntlet is locked inside a "thing", and that's where Thanos is? Would this thing happen to be a room perhaps, like a "Treasure Room"?

Looked more like a vault to me
 
Yeah they leave good buddies, oh I'm gonna miss you pal, yeah take care, but first let's have some playful banter (which was funny). So I don't get CW at all from the end of the film.
Wow.

That seems interesting. I thought given the nature of the next Captain America installment that Age of Ultron would've been the perfect platform to show us why these two became oppositions while using that to film flesh out the issue of security vs. freedom. Given the fact that I assume no foreboding has been made about anything Civil War related in terms of any governments' reaction to Ultron and the damage he caused and crafting preventative measures (SHRA), I feel Marvel missed a real good opportunity here.

I'm surprised at the last bit. A falling out happening during CW when it's already got such a huge cast seems like a bit of a risk, with all of those characters to juggle.
I agree with this as well. Just seemed odd to leave it at that.

They can leave it on good terms, and still be going their own ways.
Indeed they can, but it just doesn't add to the notion that Tony Stark would do a complete 180 and be pro-government when nothing from Age of Ultron has given the indication of that.
 
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