Age of Ultron Age of Ultron SPOILER thread, DO NOT enter if you don't want to be spoiled!!! - Part 2

[BatsDC]

Count me in the 'angry they're killing off Quicksilver' group. It's a huge waste of a character and, from the sounds of it, serves only to try and raise the stakes. Because as we all know, you can't do that without killing another character.

 

[Spitfire]

Will wait to see how QS death is portrayed but it is a shame. QS and SW are the only siblings in the MCU and it would have been nice to see this family dynamic in future movies.

I also don't want to see the Dr Strange movie dominated by a possible QS resurrection story either (there are better stories for this character).

 

[Sharkboy]

Count me in the 'angry they're killing off Quicksilver' group. It's a huge waste of a character and, from the sounds of it, serves only to try and raise the stakes. Because as we all know, you can't do that without killing another character.

Agreed. Of course it's easy to say that without context, and I'd feel a little hypocritical in saying it because I've criticised the MCU for ages for never having the balls to kill a major character off and sticking with it, but making that point with Quicksilver kinda defeats the purpose.

Then again, like i said...context is everything, but it's kind of lazy and worrying if killing him is the only way of adding drama to this film.

 

[Steamteck]

Count me in the 'angry they're killing off Quicksilver' group. It's a huge waste of a character and, from the sounds of it, serves only to try and raise the stakes. Because as we all know, you can't do that without killing another character.

I'll wait and see but the killing off one character per Avengers movie seems a bad trend to me.

 

[culver3vlr22]

I'm way late to this party. Can anyone help me out with the spoilers?

So QS dies and vision picks up the hammer?

Anyway someone could give me a quick run down of all the craziness

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I get people are annoyed about the QS thing, but can we stop with the "its pointless" and the "it makes no sense". I haven't even seen the film and I can give you one very obvious good reason to do it. To leave SW on her own, right before Civil War. A girl who has only know life with her brother, is forced to confront this new and dangerous world on her own. Who does she run with, who does she trust.

 

[Filmfan93]

I know this has been asked numerous times, but how is Ultron as a villain? Is he scary and intimidating? Do we actually see a reason why the movie is called 'Age of Ultron' and why the Avengers must re-assemble to stop him?

What about his drones? Are they just there so that the Avengers have something to beat, or they pose a threat? Thank you.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Will wait to see how QS death is portrayed but it is a shame. QS and SW are the only siblings in the MCU and it would have been nice to see this family dynamic in future movies.

I also don't want to see the Dr Strange movie dominated by a possible QS resurrection story either (there are better stories for this character).

Uh, Thor and Loki. And yes, I know he is adopted. But they are brothers.

 

[Iceman]

Count me in the 'angry they're killing off Quicksilver' group. It's a huge waste of a character and, from the sounds of it, serves only to try and raise the stakes. Because as we all know, you can't do that without killing another character.

I don't know if Whedon knows how to.

 

[Herolee10]

Uh, Thor and Loki. And yes, I know he is adopted. But they are brothers.

Nebula and Gamora are also foster sisters as well.

 

[Iceman]

Uh, Thor and Loki. And yes, I know he is adopted. But they are brothers.

That's its own thing when one is a villain and the hero's main rival and good in different ways to when you have siblings on the same team. In the absence of Sue and Johnny Storm it will be something I'll miss in the MCU. Even Whedon said he loved that dynamic and it was one of the reasons he brought them in. Just a shame his linking drama and high stakes only with death means he feels forced to kill someone whatever the project.

 

[Spitfire]

Uh, Thor and Loki. And yes, I know he is adopted. But they are brothers.

But they aren't very close are they? Neither are Gamora and Nebula. Would be nice to see a functional family unit who are close and not trying to kill each other.

 

[marvellover]

Agreed. Of course it's easy to say that without context, and I'd feel a little hypocritical in saying it because I've criticised the MCU for ages for never having the balls to kill a major character off and sticking with it, but making that point with Quicksilver kinda defeats the purpose.

Then again, like i said...context is everything, but it's kind of lazy and worrying if killing him is the only way of adding drama to this film.

They don't need to kill him to death
Just hurt him bad enough for everyone know they almost lost a guy

I am also kind of mad if killing QS is only for setting up the romance between Vision and SW

 

[Iceman]

Yeah put him in a coma or something for a few films.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

But they aren't very close are they? Neither are Gamora and Nebula. Would be nice to see a functional family unit who are close and not trying to kill each other.

What about Thor, TDW and the Avengers make you think that? They clearly love one another. Quite a lot imo. It said it all when Loki teared up during the finale of Thor.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Yeah put him in a coma or something for a few films.

They have effectively done that.

 

[Spitfire]

I am also kind of mad if killing QS is only for setting up the romance between Vision and SW

Whedon appears to have allowed the Widow/Banner romance to dominate Hulks story so I would not be surprised if this was a significant contributing factor in his decision.

Interestingly lots of reviewers describe the Widow/Banner romance as forced and shoehorned into the movie.

 

[Ms. Marvel]

Thor and Loki are close they weren't just brothers but also friends, which is what makes them becoming enemies all the more fascinating.

Not much is known about Nebula and Gamora's relationship but it can be explored in future movies. Nebula did say she hated Gamora the least from all their siblings so that's something.

 

[Spitfire]

What about Thor, TDW and the Avengers make you think that? They clearly love one another. Quite a lot imo. It said it all when Loki teared up during the finale of Thor.

A complex relationship is not the same as close. The twins are close, offer unconditional support, don't undermine each other etc. A different perspective on siblings would be refreshing.

Not much is known about Nebula and Gamora's relationship but it can be explored in future movies. Nebula did say she hated Gamora the least from all their siblings so that's something.

For a broken person like Nebula I suppose that's about as close as you get to a sibling.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

A complex relationship is not the same as close. The twins are close, offer unconditional support, don't undermine each other etc. A different perspective on siblings would be refreshing.

And what about Thor and Loki's relationship makes you think they are not close? They have been together for hundreds of years.

 

[sergeantbucky]

And what about Thor and Loki's relationship makes you think they are not close? They have been together for hundreds of years.

Loki is a wildcard. You never know if he's going to pretend to stab you or actually stab you.

That's the difference between the Thor and Loki dynamic and the relationship between Pietro and Wanda, who depend on each other.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Loki is a wildcard. You never know if he's going to pretend to stab you or actually stab you.

That's the difference between the Thor and Loki dynamic and the relationship between Pietro and Wanda, who depend on each other.

That doesn't mean both are close. And I am not saying the relationships aren't different, they clearly are. Which is why taking Wanda's brother away gives her an interesting dynamic.

 

[BatsDC]

The biggest problem with killing Quiciksilver is you just know they'll bring him back - and that is getting very old. Why even bother?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The biggest problem with killing Quiciksilver is you just know they'll bring him back - and that is getting very old. Why even bother?

As I said. To leave Wanda is an odd situation with Civil War about to take place.

 

[Iceman]

They have effectively done that.

If they actually explicitly did than rather than effectively doing it, it wouldn't go towards the fakeout count which will devalue when an important character like Cap actually does die. I think something you said a while back is similar in that Vision lifting the hammer will be cool to see but it will take away from when Cap eventually lifts it.