Age of Ultron Age of Ultron SPOILER thread, DO NOT enter if you don't want to be spoiled!!!

[MbJ]

The site that shall not be named seemingly confirms Thanos appears in some capacity, as Whedon states in an interview that he was one of the characters he requested not be used too heavily in prior Phase 2 movies to avoid mucking up Whedon's plans.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Does anyone know when the NYC premiere of this film will be?

 

[Iceman]

I guess he'll only appear in SW-induced dream sequences. Not sure how it could be done otherwise as Ultron isn't going to be working for Thanos or operating intergalactically.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

Nothing confirmed yet. I think it will be only a few members of the team who will kill Ultron - Vision, SW and QS definitely to showcase the new characters.

I always thought Vision would be the one to bring down Ultron.

 

[jaqua99]

I guess he'll only appear in SW-induced dream sequences. Not sure how it could be done otherwise as Ultron isn't going to be working for Thanos or operating intergalactically.

There's plenty of other ways. Ultron could just be on a much larger scale than we are assuming.

Now maybe I'm being over analytical that's just how I am, school, life, whatever..but RDJ posted a picture somewhere of the cast captioned something fun along the lines of "where the ones saving the universe"
Hear me out,
I think Ultron and Wanda know what's coming, and what these series of events are going to lead to and perhaps Ultron is trying to "protect the world from that" by establishing peace and order. Thor goes on his own quest to probably learn that the Infinity War is coming. During that quest, we hear of Thanos, maybe see a future vision of him. And at some point, maybe we'll see what he's doing currently.

Joss said they have to anticipate that general audiences may have just seen avengers 1, or not even that. Something as big as the ininity gems, and what all of them together can do is so big that it has to be introduced slightly in an earlier movie, they're part of the MCU
Now for the Avengers franchise there are three stories (the final of which is split into two films), we SEE two infinity stones in A1, and realized Thanos pulled the strings, but it's really not directly PART of that Avengers story, we don't realize what's going to happen till after the credits.
Avengers 2, Thanos HAS to appear, and the Infinity Stones seem a bit necessary to transition into Avengers 3 because it has to stay true to an exclusive franchise so that way people who don't watch the other films aren't confused. Especially with infinity stones being the maguffins of two phase 2 movies, potentially three now. Thanos had to be part of it and obviously Joss thought that too.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

Does anyone know when the NYC premiere of this film will be?

I think its the 19th but don't quote me on that.

 

[vaporware]

Would anyone mind is we temporarily renamed this the 'Age of Ultron SPECULATION thread...', at least until we can actually get some verified spoilers? Right now, there's 16 pages of banter-and I dozed off after Page 9.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

Would anyone mind is we temporarily renamed this the 'Age of Ultron SPECULATION thread...', at least until we can actually get some verified spoilers? Right now, there's 16 pages of banter-and I dozed off after Page 9.

Its really not an issue. Spoilers will come, give it time.

 

[PyroChamber]

I hope we at least get some variation of Thor's famous Ultron quote.

 

[jaqua99]

I hope we at least get some variation of Thor's famous Ultron quote.

Yeah, I'm a little worried that the "is that the best you can do!"line is the variation of it. He says it in front of the other avengers, like in the comic. He looks battle worn, and physically worn also. I'm thinking that could be it

 

[Solaire]

I hope we at least get some variation of Thor's famous Ultron quote.

We might, Bucky got his line in TWS. Whedon is just as big a comicbook fan as the Russos. I would think he'd put it in.

 

[alexlachiusa]

I just want to hear Cap yell "Avengers Assemble!!!".

I'll admit I'll be a wee bit disappointed if that doesn't happen

 

[Iceman]

There's plenty of other ways. Ultron could just be on a much larger scale than we are assuming.

Now maybe I'm being over analytical that's just how I am, school, life, whatever..but RDJ posted a picture somewhere of the cast captioned something fun along the lines of "where the ones saving the universe"
Hear me out,
I think Ultron and Wanda know what's coming, and what these series of events are going to lead to and perhaps Ultron is trying to "protect the world from that" by establishing peace and order. Thor goes on his own quest to probably learn that the Infinity War is coming. During that quest, we hear of Thanos, maybe see a future vision of him. And at some point, maybe we'll see what he's doing currently.

Joss said they have to anticipate that general audiences may have just seen avengers 1, or not even that. Something as big as the ininity gems, and what all of them together can do is so big that it has to be introduced slightly in an earlier movie, they're part of the MCU
Now for the Avengers franchise there are three stories (the final of which is split into two films), we SEE two infinity stones in A1, and realized Thanos pulled the strings, but it's really not directly PART of that Avengers story, we don't realize what's going to happen till after the credits.
Avengers 2, Thanos HAS to appear, and the Infinity Stones seem a bit necessary to transition into Avengers 3 because it has to stay true to an exclusive franchise so that way people who don't watch the other films aren't confused. Especially with infinity stones being the maguffins of two phase 2 movies, potentially three now. Thanos had to be part of it and obviously Joss thought that too.

But wouldn't Joss' thinking be that people who only watch Infinity War shouldn't need to watch AoU? It seems to be one of the things he's complaining about recently with his criticism of ESB (even though I'd prefer as much setup as possible). Plus I think he'd have more interest in the set up if he was in charge of the IW films. As it is he probably wants minimal distraction from his Ultron story that he's always set out to tell. I'm sure Feige and co would prefer more but a dream sequence is a freebie and simple to integrate; anything that actually happens in AoU is going to be a distractor (again which I'm fine with, just not sure Joss is judging from recent comments).

 

[Herolee10]

Regarding the whole theory/speculation that Hulk ends up being sent into space (against his will) at the conclusion of this film, the only flaw in that logic that I have a problem with is that Thor shouldn't have any problem locating the Hulk and bringing him back if that were the case.

Unless the group deemed it necessary to send the Hulk into the deepest part of space (which is somewhat of a low blow from their part considering on how the Hulk has been more of a force for good than anything else), I can't see on how the Hulk could be lost in space given Thor's resources.

 

[BatsDC]

Isn't the premiere tomorrow? We'll deifinitely get spoilers then.

 

[Minxie]

Regarding the whole theory/speculation that Hulk ends up being sent into space (against his will) at the conclusion of this film, the only flaw in that logic that I have a problem with is that Thor shouldn't have any problem locating the Hulk and bringing him back if that were the case.

Unless the group deemed it necessary to send the Hulk into the deepest part of space (which is somewhat of a low blow from their part considering on how the Hulk has been more of a force for good than anything else), I can't see on how the Hulk could be lost in space given Thor's resources.

Idk if this will be mentioned specifically in the movie but the novel mentions that Thor is unable to contact Heimdall (he tried to when they were looking for Ultron post-part attack but received no response). So Thor might return home later to find that resource unavailable to him for whatever reason (thanks to Loki's machinations I'd assume).

 

[sergeantbucky]

I think the question is whether Bruce/Hulk is sent against his will or he chooses to sacrifice himself.

If the team decides he's too dangerous to stay on Earth and must be sent away, why would they look for him or try to retrieve him?

 

[take3]

If the team decides he's too dangerous to stay on Earth and must be sent away, why would they look for him or try to retrieve him?

 

[KBX]

I think the question is whether Bruce/Hulk is sent against his will or he chooses to sacrifice himself.

If the team decides he's too dangerous to stay on Earth and must be sent away, why would they look for him or try to retrieve him?

Well lets see here. In the MCU I see it more plausible if Stark and Banner have a conversation that if the Hulk gets out of control Bruce gives Tony his OK send him into space. With Cap questions his decision at the end of the movie to lead into Civil War.Thor agrees with the decision so that's why he isn't actively pursuing him or maybe its Thor who dies in this film. lol

 

[Stevie2020]

Could he not be sent to or self-exile himself to a monastery, or witness protection, or somewhere he's very unlikely to be upset to the point of Hulking out? Why does it have to be space? Unless...Hulk becomes the dominant persona...have I just answered my own question? Hmm...

 

[Iceman]

Regarding the whole theory/speculation that Hulk ends up being sent into space (against his will) at the conclusion of this film, the only flaw in that logic that I have a problem with is that Thor shouldn't have any problem locating the Hulk and bringing him back if that were the case.

Unless the group deemed it necessary to send the Hulk into the deepest part of space (which is somewhat of a low blow from their part considering on how the Hulk has been more of a force for good than anything else), I can't see on how the Hulk could be lost in space given Thor's resources.

You know thor is going to be otherwise occupied right?

 

[Mike5575]

Could he not be sent to or self-exile himself to a monastery, or witness protection, or somewhere he's very unlikely to be upset to the point of Hulking out? Why does it have to be space? Unless...Hulk becomes the dominant persona...have I just answered my own question? Hmm...

Sure he could. That would make more sense. After all, there's much more potential for Hulk on Earth than a Planet Hulk storyline.

 

[MbJ]

Either way the Hulk likely isn't getting much play until Infinity War so it's not like it matters.

 

[Roose Bolton]

Maybe he's the one that dies.

 

[KBX]

Banner dies, but the Hulk is alive in space. Would explain the "sort of dies" comment when someone was asked the question on twitter.