Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. - 4x19 - "All the Madame's Men" - Discussion Thread

[Silvermoon]

Synopsis:

COULSON’S TEAM LEARNS AIDA’S TERRIFYING SECRET, ON ABC’S ‘MARVEL’S AGENTS OF S.H.I.E.L.D.’

“All The Madame’s Men” – Daisy finds herself teamed up with an unlikely partner. Meanwhile, Aida prepares to put her ultimate end game into effect, on “Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.,” TUESDAY, APRIL 25 (10:00-11:00 p.m. EDT), on The ABC Television Network.

“Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.” stars Clark Gregg as Agent Phil Coulson, Ming-Na Wen as Agent Melinda May, Chloe Bennet as Daisy Johnson, Iain De Caestecker as Agent Leo Fitz, Elizabeth Henstridge as Agent Jemma Simmons, Henry Simmons as Agent Alphonso “Mack” MacKenzie and John Hannah as Holden Radcliffe.

Guest starring are Brett Dalton as Grant Ward, Mallory Jansen as Madame Hydra/Aida, Jordan Rivera as Hope Mackenzie, David Weiss as serious man, Patrick Cavanaugh as Burrows, Zach McGowan as The Superior, David O’Hara as Alistair, Ben Cain as Hydra agent, Andy Comeau as Hydra doctor and Kavita Patil as Mrs. Lee.

“All the Madame’s Men” was written by James C. Oliver & Sharla Oliver and directed by Billy Gierhart.

Promo:

https://youtu.be/8TlHurt95vw

 

[Web-Head]

Can't wait to see Daisy kick ass

 

[just one thing]

Spoiler

ward and fitz seem to be polar opposites. in the real world the influence of one man led ward down a dark path in the framework the influence of one man led fitz to hydra.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDGWYF7A194

 

[Uskok]

[YT]XDGWYF7A194[/YT]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDGWYF7A194

[YT]iFFynkPWRGI[/YT]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFFynkPWRGI

 

[Vartha]

Heh Uskok, for some reason you reminded me of the Hydra I.D. I need to make lol It's nothing you said but the intrest we have for the art

 

[giveyourself12%]

Hail Fitz!

 

[Vartha]

Yeah, I'm still don't like he's the Hydra leader lol

 

[giveyourself12%]

Seeing them replicate the Captain America Triskelion jump with Skye opening a can on Aida was brilliant.

"Come on, girrrrrl" - Awesome

And BakshI!!

 

[OB12]

Bakshi offering to take the blonde furniture shopping. Hahaha.

 

[giveyourself12%]

We don't need the heavy handed Trump references, though. It's not clever.

 

[Vartha]

I'd like to hear what happened to the Avengers in that world actually

 

[OB12]

Man, Brett Dalton has done a fantastic job with the Ward character over the years.

 

[terry78]

Haha, "alternative facts."

 

[giveyourself12%]

Man, Brett Dalton has done a fantastic job with the Ward character over the years.

Definitely. I hope he finds a way for the character to come back.

 

[Vartha]

Interesting show! Reborn into the real world? That could bring back Tripp!

 

[giveyourself12%]

These episodes are flying by! I can't believe it's been an hour.

We need a movie! A MOVIE I say!!

 

[SwiftFox]

Brilliant episode. Love seeing Trip and Good Ward. Brett Dalton is a great actor.

 

[chicagodave]

Great episode and you know there gonna use that "reborn" to bring back Tripp or ward.

 

[Chemistro]

Great episode and you know there gonna use that "reborn" to bring back Tripp or ward.

Maybe they will, though that would not actually be Ward or Tripp. Unlike May, Radcliffe, or Mace, the brains of Trip and Ward were very probably not available, so they would be pretty different people (unless there was some detailed scan archived somewhere and Aida got her hands on it, but it seems very improbable - they seemed to need to develop new tech to do scans that were precise enough).
If some scans were available, they would still be different people, but with very similar minds.

 

[Dave McFly]

how about a gif of Daisy exploding out of that cocoon in slow mo

 

[javonstokess]

My guess?

I think both Tripp and Ward will have the opportunity to "become real" and Ward will give up the chance for Tripp...though I would love for both to make their way back.

 

[scarlet-witch]

I wasn't crazy about that episode at all, though I did laugh at Daisy's "maybe they're racist" comment and I liked Coulson's speech at the end.

Brett Dalton needs to learn how to emote before he tackles a scene like where he asks if he gets "his Skye" back. That was painful to watch.

This is starting to drag out far too long. Also, while I'd like them to "rebuild" Tripp and bring him back, I think if anyone should come into the real world, it's probably Hope. But no matter what they do it'll feel like a cop out, even though I selfishly want Tripp back.

 

[Endeavor]

Interesting show! Reborn into the real world? That could bring back Tripp!

It's Darkhold inspired tech tho. So that would not bode well for Tripp in the long run.

 

[just one thing]

It's Darkhold inspired tech tho. So that would not bode well for Tripp in the long run.

when gemma recognized the specs think its meant to be the same tech that brought fitz and coulson back from that phazed state.


ward has a motive for not going anywhere. Framework skye.

Tripp, hope, radcliff and evil fitz don't have a motive to stay.

How many episodes are left. Would they have alternative endings based on if the show gets a 5th season or not. Could see them pushing the envelope.

 

[Pokkle]

A great episode, it's a really good arc.
I like what they do with Ward too.
"Alternative facts" and Bakshi's role hahaha. t: