Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Agents of SHIELD TV series for ABC - General Discussion - Part 6

[Pokkle]

http://marvel.com/news/tv/2014/1/6/21713/jeffrey_bell_marvels_agents_of_shield_search_for_coulson

 

[fixxxer]

http://marvel.com/news/tv/2014/1/6/21713/jeffrey_bell_marvels_agents_of_shield_search_for_coulson

Nice. It does look like the show's creative team has taken note of some of the (constructive) criticism and are actively looking to tweak things here and there.

Mainly, from Bell's quotes, I got a sense that things would be more serialized from this point on, which I think would be a huge improvement over the current (more or less) "freak of the week" format. That article does hint at bigger, more interesting things to come. One way or the other, we shall see.

 

[mkilban2]

I'm not negative! I love coulson and the incipit of this series, I'm complaining about the discontinuity. Top of quality and gap of faults.
the first Marvel TV show voluntarily and strongly connected with the cinematic universe it's not a project to be taken lightly, way that, imho, some in the production have taken, the technical efforts are huge, only the work about the locations are awesome, the base HUB it's not all recreated in CGI, the offices as well,vehicles, foreign scenes, the CGI effects. It's all quality.
I'm enough with A PART of the show, not with all of this. I see the show bashed everywhere in terms so harsh and trolling that annoys me and see rating goes down every week totally makes me freak out. Maybe I do too influenced by the opinions of others but I feel that this show is not giving everything he could give, and this hurt me. but incidentally, on this forum, we're talking about the same faults every time, don't need to repeat.

The show will not miss me, you neither but I will miss the hope and the opportunity to see my favorite character in the MCU return to the field through the applause of the fans

that's my point.
....not sure for the grammar form or the English.

love to all.

Yeah sorry for directing that post at you, not my intention. I was honestly saying the "they won't miss you" as a joke. I hope the show improves to where everyone can be happy.

 

[Alex_Kidd]

Yeah sorry for directing that post at you, not my intention. I was honestly saying the "they won't miss you" as a joke. I hope the show improves to where everyone can be happy.

No problem, we are all fans here, sometimes the pressure plays bad jokes XD

*read the Bell statements*

What the ***k You Unworthy B******d!!! You wait 10 episodes to put down the nice cards? in a first season? whaaaaaaat!?!?

...hem... we're sayn'...

 

[Xeno]

Nice. It does look like the show's creative team has taken note of some of the (constructive) criticism and are actively looking to tweak things here and there.

Mainly, from Bell's quotes, I got a sense that things would be more serialized from this point on, which I think would be a huge improvement over the current (more or less) "freak of the week" format. That article does hint at bigger, more interesting things to come. One way or the other, we shall see.

I certainly hope that they have taken criticisms to heart and adjusted their approach accordingly. Clark Gregg noted in another interview that it's about damn time to roll out the revelations and pick up the pace on the show because it has been frustrating thus far. AOS should have been serialized from the first. The writers/producers came out with their "It's all connected" slogan as if just saying that makes all the disconnected stuff coherent ex post facto. They needed to show those connections and weave the disparate plot points together into a coherent whole as the story progresses instead of springing it on the audience after the fact.

 

[Xeno]

No problem, we are all fans here, sometimes the pressure plays bad jokes XD

*read the Bell statements*

What the ***k You Unworthy B******d!!! You wait 10 episodes to put down the nice cards? in a first season? whaaaaaaat!?!?

...hem... we're sayn'...

Well, yeah, they thought they only had thirteen episodes so they wasted ten ****ing around. They'll fix it in the next three, though. (Trust the plan!)

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Mainly, from Bell's quotes, I got a sense that things would be more serialized from this point on, which I think would be a huge improvement over the current (more or less) "freak of the week" format. That article does hint at bigger, more interesting things to come. One way or the other, we shall see.

This in itself would improve the show a great deal but who knows how fully they can commit to it with Loeb in charge. If he though EMH was too complex for people to handle I can't imagine this being any different.

Bell's saying all the right things though. Fingers crossed.

Also new ep tonight. Whoooo!

 

[Dr. Evil]

GW Bridge I hope is the "African American SHIELD Agent"

 

[Endeavor]

I'd like that but doubt it. They'll either bring back Amador or create a new character.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I'd like that but doubt it. They'll either bring back Amador or create a new character.

I would not mind seeing Amador back.

But yeah, it'll probably be a new character who has a name that sounds similar to the name of a Marvel character, such as Duane Taylor.

 

[Pokkle]

Fan question: http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=50103

 

[Vartha]

Clark and crew will be live Tweeting during tonights show!

Clark Gregg ‏@clarkgregg 46m
Me and the crew will be live tweeting the big ep from set tonight - east, central and west. #coulsonlives?

 

[Vartha]

Sneak Peek!
http://abc.go.com/shows/marvels-agents-of-shield
granted it's not new but resent mail lol

 

[Huddsy]

I don't understand why people are surprised that it's taken about 11 episodes or so to start picking up. That's the norm for a lot of good shows.

 

[Alex_Kidd]

Ok...ok...They're sold well. I'm so excited for this episode!

 

[Crimson King]

I don't understand why people are surprised that it's taken about 11 episodes or so to start picking up. That's the norm for a lot of good shows.

Not picking on you here, but that's a terrible excuse. You shouldn't get away with crappy TV under any circumstances. If your concept takes 11 episodes to become interesting, you have a bad concept.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

I don't understand why people are surprised that it's taken about 11 episodes or so to start picking up. That's the norm for a lot of good shows.

Nearly every show I watch takes 4 or 5 episodes to really get me into it. 12 seems like it's pushing it though.

 

[Vartha]

 

[Vartha]

okay peeps see ya in a few hours! Hopefully we can Tweet with them tonight

 

[rashad]

I don't understand why people are surprised that it's taken about 11 episodes or so to start picking up. That's the norm for a lot of good shows.

11 episodes deep? I think not.

 

[Huddsy]

Not picking on you here, but that's a terrible excuse. You shouldn't get away with crappy TV under any circumstances. If your concept takes 11 episodes to become interesting, you have a bad concept.

How? People wanted it all to link, and they wanted the characters to be interesting. I can name a good number of very successful shows that took a while for audiences to really embrace and for the characters to flesh out.

Stargate SG-1 comes to mind as a great example.

 

[Alex_Kidd]

I'have to wait tomorrow morning. Here in Italy will be aired on satellite at the 3 am.
so to avoid spoilers I'll "Michael Bay" the forum since tomorrow.

so, in few hours I desappear.

I...I'm sorry, I'm sorry.... *leave the stage quickly*

 

[Crimson King]

How? People wanted it all to link, and they wanted the characters to be interesting. I can name a good number of very successful shows that took a while for audiences to really embrace and for the characters to flesh out.

Stargate SG-1 comes to mind as a great example.

It's a bad idea because you're asking audiences to invest 11 hours in a show that may or may not turn out to be good. That's ridiculous. Imagine you had a stack of books available to read, all in your favorite genre. Would you be willing to sit through 11 chapters of each book, even if they're boring, just on the off chance that it might be good later? Or would you move on to the next one after a few chapters?

Not every series has to start out with instant must-watch moments like LOST, but you damn sure can't plan a series around the idea that your audience will tough-out a dozen boring episodes before you get to the good stuff.

 

[TheHeatKitchen]

I don't understand why people are surprised that it's taken about 11 episodes or so to start picking up. That's the norm for a lot of good shows.

While I do agree with others that 11 seems like a big number, I think AOS has two issues that have caused it:

1. Unreal expectations. A lot of fans expected to see a show that was basically a production the caliber of The Avengers on a weekly basis, and to see amazing guest stars every episode, like SLJ, RDJ, Evans, etc etc. That was never a real possibility.

2. The writers and producers trying to set up so much in the background that the stories at hand suffered. Coulson's revival, Skye's parents, The Rising Tide, May's past... But none of it has gotten anywhere yet. And unless tonight's episode shows Coulson being brought back to life to mate with May, with Skye being the resulting spawn, who also happens to have super powers and The Rising Tide, and part of Centipede, who's a part of AIM, who is actually HYDRA knew this all along and had been looking for her as the missing piece to bring Red Skull back from space where he's been partying with The Kree, we'll still be in the dark with a lot and people will have to keep being patient. Basically, they're dragging their mysteries out too long.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Well supposedly we'll learn Coulson's deal tonight and next week promises some revelations about Skye so hopefully things are finally coming together. If they can find time to squeeze in Fitz's monkey we'll be golden.