Sci-Fi Alien: Earth (Noah Hawley and Ridley Scott) | FX on HULU

[DarthSkywalker]

Also Rise of Skywalker.

I am hoping they were prepping for a renewal, just so they can go into production for season 2 soon.

TROS is not a television show.

 

[Zantera]

As someone who is mixed on the show but hasn't read a lot of the comics / books that are Alien-related, it's hard to say if my issues with the show are related to those or if it's something else.

There's definitely elements I like but the big flaw for me is the characters. Can't say I care for anyone from the lost boys group (including Wendy), or Wendy's brother. Timothy Olyphant is great but he's always great so I expected nothing less.

By making a large amount of our lead characters synths they have done something to separate it from most other Alien properties we've seen but at the same time I don't feel worried or fearful for anyone biting it and so the 'threat' that comes with the Alien just feels removed entirely. If I cared more about the characters my enjoyment would probably go up significantly, after all that might be the difference of a 7/10 show or a 9/10 show.

I do enjoy the world building and anything creature related so far has been fun. Then again with this being set before the other movies it has that typical prequel problem where we know certain things can't happen because it would strongly go against the world as we know it a few years later in the franchise.

 

[Lily Adler]

You know thinking about it, that scene did remind me of the cow/xeno scene in Alien 3.

Too much light for that scene.

 

[Elayis]

My biggest issue with the show is how lore-focused the story is. The moment the pilot started with a dense crawl of text I knew we were in trouble.

There are three types of artificial beings, five different corporate nation states, a bunch of new (but also seemingly pointless) alien species, and this week we're getting a flashback episode for a crew that is already dead and we only briefly met at the very beginning.

It all just feels needlessly messy and overcomplicated. It would probably make for a good novel where the narrative can afford to focus on background information and character interiority. I'm not sure that the show is playing to the strengths of a visual medium.

 

[Punisher_MAX]

I have no idea of the quality of these comics or novels. I do know that if I was watching a Star Wars show that played out like the majority of Star Wars books/comics I've read, I'd probably think it poor. Like Ahsoka. Yeah, Ahsoka's a good example.

They're honestly pretty good and you should look into them. Good lore and world building for the Alien Universe.

 

[Teelie]

Certainly better than many of the Star Trek and Star Wars books ended up being.

 

[TheVileOne]

I'm on Episode 2 right now, and I'm really struggling with this series. So many inconsistencies. I'm really struggling with the Lost Boys. I can't comprehend why Boy Kavalier would send them to do clean-up on the Weyland-Yutani vessel. Kavalier is a trillionaire with seemingly unlimited resources and a whole city at his disposal. Why would he send experimental CHILDREN in robot bodies on a mission as crucial as this?

The writing and acting are also very cringe. I'm not fond of the kids. Adults acting like children. It's just goofy. Kavalier also feels like a one-note character.

Also, the series suffers from the same problem as Romulus, for example. It can't pick a lane between the retro-future cassette futurism of Alien or using more slick, modern, futuristic tech. It makes no sense to me that we see both in multiple areas. It's too inconsistent. The Maginot is not a space freighter. It's a state-of-the-art Weyland-Yutani research vessel...or it should be, shouldn't it? Yet all the tech and aesthetic looks closer to Alien 1979 rather than Prometheus or the space station in Romulus.

Nothing lines up anymore. The problem with a lot of the Alien updates is that they try to have their cake and eat it too.

To this day, Alien: Isolation is still the best Alien story that successfully tells a new story in the Alien mythology while also utilizing the nostalgia of the original and mimicking that aesthetic.

 

[OrbOfConfusion]

Well, tonight's episode was, for my money, probably the most cinematic of the series so far- without saying too much. No surprise that Hawley himself directed it.

 

[squeekness]

Octopus eyeball is my new favorite.

 

[Sithborg]

Octopus eyeball is my new favorite.

T Ocellus is our friend.

Initially I wasn't too interested in a flashback, but that was fun. A mini Alien movie. And dear god, the super tick hit a whole new level of terror. That poor idiot kid.

Some good background on Marrow. And interesting look at space travel as well.

I also think I have a few more ideas on why the xeno is feeling off to people. The back protustions are way too stunted. Also, either the actor or the direction the actor is being given is off. The movement doesn't feel right.

 

[KaijuDude1992]

T Ocellus was definitely the MVP of this episode and I really liked some of Hawley's direction in this episode as well.

Spoiler

The little confrontation between the Xeno and the T Ocellus in Michael Smiley's body was easily my favorite part of the movie because we finally saw some interaction between two alien species and even the bit with the alien ticks was interesting as well.

Also, Morrow is ruthless asf but I liked that we atleast got some good backstory for his character and a solid grasp of his overall motivation.

 

[Snow Queen]

I thought this was the most enjoyable episode of them so far. The last two have been better than the first three. Spaceship whodunnit is fun and just having a cast of adults more or less acting like adults is more enjoyable to me than a lot of the acting like kids stuff.

That being said, their xenomorph work remains rough. Very goofy, very fan film. It's better the further we are away from the titular alien.

 

[Kane52630]

That episode f***in rocked.

 

[Kane52630]

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

I gotta quit playing and catch up.

 

[Weather Witch]

Very cinematic. Eyeball was great. Xenomorph is still kinda bad. Enjoyable episode in a vacuum, but doesn't move the plot forward at all. Not sure if that was the best idea for the pacing.

Plus, I kinda liked the mystery of not knowing about these characters. The actual answers don't add much.

 

[TheFuture]

I'm seemingly against the grain but I really digged the Xeno here. It reminded me of Alien 1 where there's an almost creepish, curious vibe to the Xeno hunting certain prey. They could still yet mess it up, but I'm liking the approach so far.

As for the Eyeball, it continues to steal the show along with Morrow. What a devious little creep warning a potential host to danger from the other aliens.

 

[Kane52630]

I'm seemingly against the grain but I really digged the Xeno here. It reminded me of Alien 1 where there's an almost creepish, curious vibe to the Xeno hunting certain prey. They could still yet mess it up, but I'm liking the approach so far.

Same.

 

[squeekness]

T Ocellus was definitely the MVP of this episode and I really liked some of Hawley's direction in this episode as well.

Spoiler

The little confrontation between the Xeno and the T Ocellus in Michael Smiley's body was easily my favorite part of the movie because we finally saw some interaction between two alien species and even the bit with the alien ticks was interesting as well.

Also, Morrow is ruthless asf but I liked that we atleast got some good backstory for his character and a solid grasp of his overall motivation.

Very much agreed with your spoiler.

 

[Art Vandelay]

She's not a very good actress. Felt the same when she was on Fargo.

 

[Art Vandelay]

As for the Eyeball, it continues to steal the show along with Morrow. What a devious little creep warning a potential host to danger from the other aliens.

Not warning, distracting. It was distracting her while it's alien room mate was making its escape.

 

[Morg]

Octopus eyeball is my new favorite.

My cats will like a word with you

 

[Kane52630]

She's not a very good actress. Felt the same when she was on Fargo.

 

[Monsieur Xavier]

I’m wondering if there is a grudge between the Xeno race and the Eyeball one given the way they got at eachother.

Amazing how 90% of the Maginot crew is a patented idiot or incompetent.
The kid was particulary dumb.

 

[Still Wynning]

Just going by the opening 10 minutes of episode one and now this episode, that young apprentice character clearly comes from a background where knowledge of certain things, like the word “saboteur”, is not as common as it is in our real world. I definitely think a lot of crew doing stupid things and making dumb decisions can be explained by the education system in this universe’s future not being as up to par due to the grip and monopoly Prodigy and all of the other corporations have on basic learning and knowledge of things people like us in present day take for granted.

Then, why them and not a group of more competent and experienced people? Well, as the series has shown, these corporations are willing to cut corners in order to get results and make a profit, which could include saving money by hiring not necessarily the most qualified individuals to do the task at hand. And if they happen to die while on the job? Well, too bad, you’re s**t out of luck. It also explains the weird discrepancy of the technological divide between Prometheus and the time period of this series and ALIEN. The Maginot and Nostromo are most likely just holdovers and outdated tech from a different era in order to save costs, and the higher end stuff is reserved for the rich and wealthy. You remember, Peter Weyland in Prometheus personally funded and went on the trip with that crew, so he would want and ask for the most up-to-date, top-of-the-line, state-of-the-art technology afforded to him and that money could buy for his own convenience.

As for the hybrids, why send them in to do all of these tasks better suited to? Well, for one, Wendy asked to go on the mission. Also, Boy Kavalier, being an insulated, arrogant, rich and spoiled young head of a corporation, clearly has no qualms and isn’t concerned with the ramifications of sending out ostensibly a bunch of kids in adult mechanical bodies, breaking protocol, and the endeavor and pursuit of scientific progress by any means necessary, consequences be damned.

It kind of goes along with what that one crew member had to say about smart people still making stupid decisions, and I definitely think that’s something that is very true to life. We have the capacity to progress and achieve all of these amazing scientific and technological feats, and yet, at the same time, at our very core, we’re still just dumb f**king humans who still make dumb f**king mistakes every so often.

I definitely think a lot of the issues that people are complaining about are kind of the point of what the show is trying to get at with how terribly dystopian this world can be and how it’s not a great world to live in. Everything, even education, is a valuable commodity hoarded and controlled by the wealthy, people are just another expendable and replaceable resource for the company to exploit and the universe is dangerous, deadly, cold and uncaring.