BvS All Things Batman v Superman: An Open Discussion - - Part 109

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You can always use Grant Morrison's take on the New Gods where they inhabit humans on Earth if you are that worried about similarities. (I am not fyi)
 
Completely agree with James gunn on Dc using Darkseid. Like it or not this two are wayyy too similar not just in looks but in Mythos.

Darkseid=Thanos
Evil gods of Apokolips=Black order
Parademons=Chitauri
Infinity stones=Anti Life equation

A well done Darkseid story will have a LOT of similarity with a well done Thanos story.Dc will comeoff as Ripoff.

Like it or not Dc shouldnt use Darkseid whilst Marvel uses Thanos.They have to wait until Marvel is done with Thanos to avoid being looked at as ripoffs.

But heres the plus side:Justice league has other huge villains they can use for their movies in the meanwhile.They are not really in any Disadvantage.
Braniac,Appelexians and Legion of Doom etc are good replaceements for Darkseid.
But Brainiac will be thought of an Ultron ripoff! :o
 
Why?:huh:They are nothing alike.Not like Drakseid/Thanos

First of all, it's DARKSEID. Second of all, one looks like this:
jlamovie-darkseid.jpg


The other like this.
Thanos_%28Earth-616%29.jpg


One is the undisputed ruler of his own planet, Apokolips. The other sits on a meteorite in the far reaches of the galaxy.

One is obsessed with conquering all life in the universe by using the Anti-Life Equation. The other is obsessed with death and killing all life with the Infinity Gauntlet.
 
First of all, it's DARKSEID. Second of all, one looks like this:
jlamovie-darkseid.jpg


The other like this.
Thanos_%28Earth-616%29.jpg


One is the undisputed ruler of his own planet, Apokolips. The other sits on a meteorite in the far reaches of the galaxy.

One is obsessed with conquering all life in the universe by using the Anti-Life Equation. The other is obsessed with death and killing all life with the Infinity Gauntlet.
Yes I know its Darkseid.it was a typo.
Secondly they do look similar
thanos-darkseid.png

796257-preview.jpg

However Im less worried about their similar looks and more worried about there similar mythos/
I am well aware there are difference between their two mythos But theres enough similarities between them give one pause. Ive posted these similarities in detail in my previous posts
 
Oh boo hoo. Marvel are doing Thanos so lets' be scared and not use our very own big bad for fear of people saying we're ripping off a character who Marvel ripped off in the first place.:funny:
 
Oh boo hoo. Marvel are doing Thanos so lets' be scared and not use our very own big bad for fear of people saying we're ripping off a character who Marvel ripped off in the first place.:funny:

:hehe: Seriously, it's a ****ing ridiculous notion.
 
If things shouldnt be done because they are similar, DC should just not do movies because everything is similar. The audience wont care if the movie is done right...

Think about how many movies you have seen over your lifetime...how many of them have characters or plotlines that are similar or completely the same?

Make a good Darkseid film and no one will care about the similarities.
 
Ive said my piece on the subject.

Marvel beat DC to the punch with Thanos so they have to hold off Darkseid.
Doesnt matter tht Thanos is a Darkseid ripoff

Its similar to the fact that DC wil beat Marvel to the punch with Aquaman so they have to hold off using Namor.Doesnt matter tht Aquaman is a Namor ripoff
 
If things shouldnt be done because they are similar, DC should just not do movies because everything is similar. The audience wont care if the movie is done right...

Think about how many movies you have seen over your lifetime...how many of them have characters or plotlines that are similar or completely the same?

Make a good Darkseid film and no one will care about the similarities.

:up::up::up:
 
Ive said my piece on the subject.


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Doesnt matter tht Thanos is a Darkseid ripoff

Its similar to the fact that DC wil beat Marvel to the punch with Aquaman so they have to hold off using Namor.Doesnt matter tht Aquaman is a Namor ripoff

Says' who? :funny:

People use the internet to order food less than 5 minutes away from their house. A simple Google search will give them answers to who is ripping who.
 
Everyone knows DC shouldn't use Darkseid because James Gunn thinks it would be weird. Get with the program :o
 
Exactly. That's why DC also should have held off on Superman because he has a red cape and since Thor has a red cape, Marvel beat DC to the punch.

But that's DC, always late to the game and trying to play catch up. Everyone knows all DC characters are just ripoffs of Marvel characters anyway.
 
Suicide Squad is a CLEAR and OBVIOUS way of trying to catch up to Marvel because of Guardians of the Galaxy right?
 
:whatever:
You know very much its not the same case here.But If you have to resort to those kind of over the top exaggerattion comments well im done arguing this
 
saying Darkseid is too much like Thanos is like Saying the Hulk is too much like the thing.
 
Darkseid and Thanos have as much in common as Brainiac and Ultron.
 
It really boils down to how they are presented. Their personalities aren't THAT similar. The similarities are really more in their appearance.
 
As long as the writers are conscious of the risk, the problem will be avoided.

In any case, as others have said, the two characters are hardly identical, and there is little reason to suppose that the similarities they do share would lead to the plots being too similar. Obi Wan Kenobi and Gandalf are roughly the same character, but the movies in which they appear are quite different.

That said, I am not persuaded that Darkseid "needs" to appear in a DC movie. On a superficial reasoning, he does seem essential to the DCU as it appears in the comics, but that is really a product of their longevity and volume. The DCU now has so many characters with such a long history of interaction between them that it has developed a hierarchy of threat, which inevitably needs somebody to sit at the top. The movies won't have that, since all that they will ever be able to show is a tunnel drilled through the middle of the DCU trunk.

Personally, I don't find "ultimate threats" very interesting as fictional characters, since they lack vulnerability and therefore nuance. Add vulnerability and nuance, and they cease to be the "ultimate threat" and become an anti-hero: see Satan in Milton's Paradise Lost.

Are you seriously saying Star Wars and Lord of the Rings are analogous to Marvel and DC? It's not even remotely close to the same thing.
 
I'd say more than the villains' similarities, the issue is the similarities between the basic storylines. Yet another cosmic affair/alien invasion; that's what will have some in the audience thinking, "This formula again?" Justice League should take (or should have taken) the chance to create something more unique to set itself apart. Maybe something earthbound, like Kingdom Come or Tower of Babel or the OMAC storyline.
 
I'd say more than the villains' similarities, the issue is the similarities between the basic storylines. Yet another cosmic affair/alien invasion; that's what will have some in the audience thinking, "This formula again?" Justice League should take (or should have taken) the chance to create something more unique to set itself apart. Maybe something earthbound, like Kingdom Come or Tower of Babel or the OMAC storyline.
Agree with this.I was thinking that instead of another cosmic affair/alien invasion we get something either Chronal(Timetravel) or Magical.Or Earthbound like Legion of Doom
 
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