BvS All Things Batman v Superman: An Open Discussion - - Part 166

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[John Locke]

What's really tiring is the endless debates about MOS in the BVS forum. MOS has its own forum and its own thread in the DC Films forum. Why must people always bring it up here? It's the only film that is constantly debated in its sequel's forum.

 

[Charlatan]

I honestly think Ma and Pa Kent could've been handled way better in MOS. Instead of being like "please hide your powers cause people might hate you", they could've encouraged him to become a superhero while warning him about the consequences of doing so.

Clark's relationship with his parents is a big part of his character. It's the big "human" element of his mythos, imo. It's an extremely optimistic story. Maybe that's the reason why people think it's unrealistic, idk ¯\_(&#12484_/¯

they were smart to have him stay hidden until he had actually come to terms with his powers and learned how to use them. if he had not, then the govt would have had him indoctrinated by the time he was grown. or they would have tried to dissect,kill,imprison him and he would have turned on humanity.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

What's really tiring is the endless debates about MOS in the BVS forum. MOS has its own forum and its own thread in the DC Films forum. Why must people always bring it up here? It's the only film that is constantly debated in its sequel's forum.

Like was it really necessary to post a review bringing up 2 year old points in THIS section? Just when I thought I was over this ****, something happens that really just bothers the **** out of me.

 

[WoodyROM]

Like was it really necessary to post a review bringing up 2 year old points in THIS section? Just when I thought I was over this ****, something happens that really just bothers the **** out of me.

Exactly

 

[Marvin]

What's really tiring is the endless debates about MOS in the BVS forum. MOS has its own forum and its own thread in the DC Films forum. Why must people always bring it up here? It's the only film that is constantly debated in its sequel's forum.

It's because of indifference towards the film.

they were smart to have him stay hidden until he had actually come to terms with his powers and learned how to use them. if he had not, then the govt would have had him indoctrinated by the time he was grown. or they would have tried to dissect,kill,imprison him and he would have turned on humanity.

One interesting thing about the BvS trailer is they are seemingly paying off what the premise of world reaction to someone like clark. The firs 30 seconds of that teaser plays like Jon Kent's I told you so.

 

[Rapunzel]

I'll get us back on BvS-- I really liked the theory that was posited about Lex possibly controlling technology. I think it could explain the nuke looking thing in the teaser, and the Batwing? shooting at stuff. I especially like the idea that Supes might have to face innocent people under Lex's control and learn how to stop them without killing.

 

[matt47]

It's because of indifference towards the film.


One interesting thing about the BvS trailer is they are seemingly paying off what the premise of world reaction to someone like clark. The firs 30 seconds of that teaser plays like Jon Kent's I told you so.

Which is exactly why I liked Jonathon in Man of Steel. What he said was right, people are afraid of what they don't understand, when the world finds out what you can do it's gonna change everything.
And to people saying that all that Jonathon did was put down Clark and tell him to hide himself forever, GO ACTUALLY WATCH THE EFFING MOVIE!
Quotes from Jonathon to Clark-
"You're not just anyone Clark and I have to believe that you were sent here for a reason" "One day you're gonna think of these as a blessing and when that day comes, you'll have to make a choice, whether to stand proud in front of the human race or not" "Even if it take you the rest of your life, you owe it to yourself to find out what that reason is".

See he doesn't tell Clark, "No, you must never show who you are to people ever." He tells Clark to just be patient, wait, find out who he is and what his purpose is in the world and then choose to stand in front of the human race or not.

 

[Boom]

One thing that I absolutely loved about Metallo in the animated series was that he basically went insane because he couldn't experience the "little things" that humans take for granted. He couldn't feel anything by touch, he couldn't eat, he couldn't drink, he couldn't sleep, and he couldn't make love. That's what pushed him over the edge. That loss of biological functions and pleasures.

He'd be a terrific villain.

 

[Charlatan]

I'll get us back on BvS-- I really liked the theory that was posited about Lex possibly controlling technology. I think it could explain the nuke looking thing in the teaser, and the Batwing? shooting at stuff. I especially like the idea that Supes might have to face innocent people under Lex's control and learn how to stop them without killing.

you think maybe that's how Lex gets Superman to go after Bats? He hacks his tech and makes him a criminal?

 

[Rapunzel]

you think maybe that's how Lex gets Superman to go after Bats? He hacks his tech and makes him a criminal?

And meanwhile he's got Bats convinced it Supes hacking his tech, cause shifty alien be shifty.

 

[matt47]

One thing that I absolutely loved about Metallo in the animated series was that he basically went insane because he couldn't experience the "little things" that humans take for granted. He couldn't feel anything by touch, he couldn't eat, he couldn't drink, he couldn't sleep, and he couldn't make love. That's what pushed him over the edge. That loss of biological functions and pleasures.

He'd be a terrific villain.

I actually want them to go that way with Cyborg too eventually. I know it's not to the Metallo extreme but still.

 

[WoodyROM]

I'll get us back on BvS-- I really liked the theory that was posited about Lex possibly controlling technology. I think it could explain the nuke looking thing in the teaser, and the Batwing? shooting at stuff. I especially like the idea that Supes might have to face innocent people under Lex's control and learn how to stop them without killing.

Not just controlling tech but also the public image of Supes. Like the militant group that operates under the "leadership" of Superman. Throw in a little Metallo and I think you have a really layered conflict that would put each hero to the test.

 

[Charlatan]

I'd be a little disappointed if Lex could crack Batman's encryption. Unless he was being assisted by Brainiac.

 

[Black Narcissus]

I'll get us back on BvS-- I really liked the theory that was posited about Lex possibly controlling technology. I think it could explain the nuke looking thing in the teaser, and the Batwing? shooting at stuff. I especially like the idea that Supes might have to face innocent people under Lex's control and learn how to stop them without killing.

That was my theory.

Also, who would play Metallo?

 

[Rapunzel]

That was my theory.

Also, who would play Metallo?

Was it? I thought it was Marvin's? Maybe he was elaborating on you? Theories fly fast and furious around here. But I really hope this one is true.

Metallo should be mo-capped and voiced by James Spader. I think he'd make a great evil robot. Oh wait....

 

[Charlatan]

Was it? I thought it was Marvin's? Maybe he was elaborating on you? Theories fly fast and furious around here. But I really hope this one is true.

Metallo should be mo-capped and voiced by James Spader. I think he'd make a great evil robot. Oh wait....

yeah Ultron kinda boxed WB in on the villain front for Superman. He's very similar to both Metallo and Brainiac. Both a highly advanced AI and powerful robot. And with the delay of releasing BVS Marvel beat them to the punch.
Now using either one of those villains is going to prompt the critics to cry copycat.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Was it? I thought it was Marvin's? Maybe he was elaborating on you? Theories fly fast and furious around here. But I really hope this one is true.

Metallo should be mo-capped and voiced by James Spader. I think he'd make a great evil robot. Oh wait....

It was me. I already copyright the material.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

I still think callan mulvey is metallo.

 

[Nemeres]

What's really tiring is the endless debates about MOS in the BVS forum. MOS has its own forum and its own thread in the DC Films forum. Why must people always bring it up here? It's the only film that is constantly debated in its sequel's forum.

That's not true at all, TASM was also a recurrent thing in the TASM2 boards. And also there people got uncomfortable whenever the dislikes got brought up. It's beyond unrealistic to expect that not to happen, ever. A first film is the absolute best tool to judge the prospects of a second film by.

 

[Harley2004]

yeah Ultron kinda boxed WB in on the villain front for Superman. He's very similar to both Metallo and Brainiac. Both a highly advanced AI and powerful robot. And with the delay of releasing BVS Marvel beat them to the punch.
Now using either one of those villains is going to prompt the critics to cry copycat.

Corben/Metallo would not really be like Ultron at all. Also I think it's safe to assume he would not lose every fight he has and be an actual threat to the heroes.

 

[Sharkboy]

yeah Ultron kinda boxed WB in on the villain front for Superman. He's very similar to both Metallo and Brainiac. Both a highly advanced AI and powerful robot. And with the delay of releasing BVS Marvel beat them to the punch.
Now using either one of those villains is going to prompt the critics to cry copycat.

I don't think Marvel can really claim dominance with any of their villains thus far. Until the MCU can give us something like Doc Ock in Spidey 2, which they haven't been close to yet.

 

[WBwins]

That's not true at all, TASM was also a recurrent thing in the TASM2 boards. And also there people got uncomfortable whenever the dislikes got brought up. It's beyond unrealistic to expect that not to happen, ever. A first film is the absolute best tool to judge the prospects of a second film by.

Truth.

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

One interesting thing about the BvS trailer is they are seemingly paying off what the premise of world reaction to someone like clark. The firs 30 seconds of that teaser plays like Jon Kent's I told you so.

Definitely.

Though my first thought with that first line ("Is it really a surprise that the most powerful person in the world should be a figure of controversy") was that it was Snyder's meta way of saying 'Of course MOS was going to be controversial, what did you expect?'