BvS All Things Batman v Superman: An Open Discussion - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 2

[titansupes]

I'm loving that intensity from Affleck.

 

[Kal-El.9859]

Loving all this BvS goodness...but I'm waiting for The X-Files!!!

 

[Boy Scout]

I LOVE that all the devastation in the battle with Zod in MoS that was criticized at the time as "excessive" is absolutely pivotal to this plot, and the drama of this film. Pretty sweet irony.

Addressing the criticism doesn't negate its validity.

 

[RadioSha]

I LOVE that all the devastation in the battle with Zod in MoS that was criticized at the time as "excessive" is absolutely pivotal to this plot, and the drama of this film. Pretty sweet irony.

I love it.

Critics after MOS: Too much destruction! So many fictional people died! Why did they do this?

Snyder and co: Really? HERE'S AN ENTIRE MOVIE ALL ABOUT THAT S***

Double-down Snyder. That's what i'm calling him.

 

[KillerWolf]

"He has the power to wipe out the entire human race and if we can't with absolute certainty say that there is a 1% chance he's not our enemy then we need to take that chance."

Batfleck sold that well.

When man starts speaking in percents you know he's gone outta his mind.

Can't wait to see him bring this rage in a suit.

 

[BatmanVSuperman]

Perhaps that critique influenced the story we got. MOS took the heat, though many other films never answer in superhero genre for that issue. I think it helped inspire the story we are getting after MOS got singled out ridiculously. In a way, I'm glad people were unfair this time

It is quite possible the negativity created this story setup somewhat.

 

[KillerWolf]

Regarding the MOS being a part of the plot here, here's what Snyder recently said about the Metropolis destruction:

"I stand by it, because for me, I've always said when I was working on Watchmen — and maybe it's sort of left over from a Watchmen philosophical sort of thing - that there should be consequences to superheroes' interaction with the Earth. That was kind of the way that we approached Man of Steel. I wanted a big consequence to Superman's arrival on earth. Certainly, Batman v Superman sort of cashes in all its chips on the 'why' of that destruction."

And I completely agree with this.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

I love it.

Critics after MOS: Too much destruction! So many fictional people died! Why did they do this?

Snyder and co: Really? HERE'S AN ENTIRE MOVIE ALL ABOUT THAT S***

Double-down Snyder. That's what i'm calling him.

Props to Terrio. I'm okay with the film overtaking the Knight for me

Can't wait until Zack's Justice League. It's gonna be INSANE

 

[False Prophet]

The two spots today perfectly summed up why these two are fighting, and it did it from the perspectives of the men behind the heroes, not the heroes themselves. In one afternoon, WB responded to criticisms specific to BvS (Why are the figgggttinggg?) and specific to DC heroes (The human IDs are facades that make the characters unrelatable as a whole). Top notch stuff.

 

[Clark-Kent]

I love it.

Critics after MOS: Too much destruction! So many fictional people died! Why did they do this?

Snyder and co: Really? HERE'S AN ENTIRE MOVIE ALL ABOUT THAT S***

Double-down Snyder. That's what i'm calling him.

Is that actually doubling down though, or is it addressing the critcism through the BvS plot to cut back on the negative critiquing this time around? Either way, I think we end up with a great concept out of the MOS backlash that was experienced on the destruction aspects.

 

[Broseph44]

Regarding the MOS being a part of the plot here, here's what Snyder recently said about the Metropolis destruction:

"I stand by it, because for me, I've always said when I was working on Watchmen — and maybe it's sort of left over from a Watchmen philosophical sort of thing - that there should be consequences to superheroes' interaction with the Earth. That was kind of the way that we approached Man of Steel. I wanted a big consequence to Superman's arrival on earth. Certainly, Batman v Superman sort of cashes in all its chips on the 'why' of that destruction."

And I completely agree with this.

I completely agree with it as well.

 

[False Prophet]

Addressing the criticism doesn't negate its validity.

Maybe. But we're in the TFA age, where movies evidently should be evaluated with respect to the big picture, and not the individual parts.

 

[steve4991]

My eyes were locked on Bens eyes in that spot and it gave me chills, especially for one who has always been on the fence about the fight with Zod. He is nailing it. And now suddenly all of the random Twitter feedback is mostly positive again lol I love the Internet

 

[egg]

i don't think we get the story today we have, without having seen snyder ripped a new one for the destruction. though in other superhero films/brands they never got the same negative words with their destruction. never seemed fair

 

[xxxxxx29]

Affleck is going to be the best Bruce/Batman.

 

[TDKR1977]

Is that actually doubling down though, or is it addressing the critcism through the BvS plot to cut back on the negative critiquing this time around? Either way, I think we end up with a great concept out of the MOS backlash that was experienced on the destruction aspects.

Never saw the problem with the destruction. A rookie Superman faced with an extinction level threat. It wasn't like he was an old hand at being a super hero. Mistakes were made, and it fit with the story.

 

[Knightfall]

I can honestly say that little bit of footage from Bruce and Alfred has me the most pumped out of all that I have seen so far from this film. So intense!

 

[titansupes]

When man starts speaking in percents you know he's gone outta his mind.

More than 60% of people know that.

 

[Gold Samurai]

Official TV Spot 3 & 4.


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Affleck sells it.

His speech would work for a political thriller too.

 

[Clark-Kent]

Never saw the problem with the destruction. A rookie Superman faced with an extinction level threat. It wasn't like he was an old hand at being a super hero. Mistakes were made, and it fit with the story.

Me either. As I said in the first post earlier I made about this, a lot of superhero films other than MOS gets a pass on this anyways. The criticism that MOS got I think absolutely affected the direction of BvS, in a way it would likely have not gone otherwise I think.

 

[Guts]

When man starts speaking in percents you know he's gone outta his mind.

Can't wait to see him bring this rage in a suit.

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[Val_Zod]

That brought chills. Affleck is going to own this role.

 

[rogbngp]

Regarding the MOS being a part of the plot here, here's what Snyder recently said about the Metropolis destruction:

"I stand by it, because for me, I've always said when I was working on Watchmen — and maybe it's sort of left over from a Watchmen philosophical sort of thing - that there should be consequences to superheroes' interaction with the Earth. That was kind of the way that we approached Man of Steel. I wanted a big consequence to Superman's arrival on earth. Certainly, Batman v Superman sort of cashes in all its chips on the 'why' of that destruction."

And I completely agree with this.

Yeah, beautiful find there, thanks Wolf.

BvS was not written to "address the criticism," as was suggested by the post you responded to.

 

[Boy Scout]

Maybe. But we're in the TFA age, where movies evidently should be evaluated with respect to the big picture, and not the individual parts.

The individual parts - certainly the first - should be able to stand on their own, though. MOS, in my opinion, did very little to satisfactorily address its own themes, and that's part of what makes it such an underwhelming film. The same can't be said for E7.

I have no desire to get into yet another discussion about the quality of that movie, so I'm going to leave it at that.

I'm officially sold on Ben Affleck. Everything else about this movie is up in the air, but I'm positive that Affleck is going to knock my socks off.

 

[Venom'sDad]

I have to admit, I didn't expect Affleck to have any sort of intensity in this film....figured he would just try overly hard to be a cool playboy. Good intensity, at least for one scene.