BvS All Things Batman v Superman: An Open Discussion - - - - - - Part 250

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[Arrowshieldfan]

So there no info about Jim Gordon in the Gotham travel guide book about a legendary police commissioner?

 

[PopeAdrian37th]

Fire crotch guy
Fartcheese
Fart-assy

Any more to add on that list?

Devin Farcey?
Devin Fallacy?

Im out...

 

[steve4991]

Too fiddayyyyyyyyyyy

 

[steve4991]

Part 250 is where the final trailer will drop. It was meant to be

 

[kendalag]

So there no info about Jim Gordon in the Gotham travel guide book about a legendary police commissioner?

Guess you can't visit Gotham and meet a dead man.

 

[Sawyer]

If the movie is divisive in the same way that MOS was, but gets the added Box Office of Batman and WW's involvement, I can live with it.

 

[Herolee10]

Honestly, I think the biggest reason why I hope this film is better received by critics and fans than MOS was is so that it can at least shut some (I know, not all) fans up when it comes to the criticisms against Superman's character, Zack Snyder, and the overall DCEU.

Though I wouldn't be surprised if we end up getting fans that end up saying on how, if BvS succeeds, it's only because of Ben Affleck/Terrio, and how Batman was in the film.

 

[Rapunzel]

If the movie is divisive in the same way that MOS was, but gets the added Box Office of Batman and WW's involvement, I can live with it.

Me too. All this box office stuff is so petty, imo. This is still highly lucrative even if it doesn't quite hit a billion. JL not hitting a billion would be a bigger issue.

 

[PopeAdrian37th]

I'm confident WW is going to bring in some nice female demographics that other cbm lack

 

[rockandrollsoul]

If the movie is divisive in the same way that MOS was, but gets the added Box Office of Batman and WW's involvement, I can live with it.

I feel it will probably be divisive regardless of how good it is. As long as I enjoy it, I won't be too bothered by the haters.

 

[Sawyer]

Honestly, I think the biggest reason why I hope this film is better received by critics and fans than MOS was is so that it can at least shut some (I know, not all) fans up when it comes to the criticisms against Superman's character, Zack Snyder, and the overall DCEU.

Though I wouldn't be surprised if we end up getting fans that end up saying on how, if BvS succeeds, it's only because of Ben Affleck/Terrio, and how Batman was in the film.

If the movie succeeds, I think we all know that we have Eisenberg to thank for it.

 

[DarthAlani]

If this film is good, haters will still find something to nitpick. That is the nature of things.

 

[titansupes]

I'm just glad that the movie opens here same day/a day before the US. With MoS, I had to wait two whole weeks, while seeing the whole internet/critical meltdown. I ended up having mixed feelings on MoS myself, but going in knowing it was divisive was really annoying.

 

[Nemeres]

Though I wouldn't be surprised if we end up getting fans that end up saying on how, if BvS succeeds, it's only because of Ben Affleck/Terrio

Sorry, but how is this not a logical conclusion. We've already seen what a Terrio-less Snyder is able to do. Good, bad or anything in between, it is what it is. If BVS manages to be any less divisive than his previous work -- or a genuinely good, effective, doesn't-require-excusing-at-every-turn movie -- while also being his first collaboration with a celebrated writer of Terrio's caliber, the math does itself.

 

[AnneFan]

If this film is good, haters will still find something to nitpick. That is the nature of things.

One of the biggest slurs one can mount against a film is it's 'good but not great'. That it didn't push any boundaries and pretty much played out as expected.

Get ready for these criticisms.

 

[rockandrollsoul]

Sorry, but how is this not a logical conclusion. We've already seen what a Terrio-less Snyder is able to do. Good, bad or anything in between, it is what it is. If BVS manages to be any less divisive than his previous work -- or a genuinely good, effective, doesn't-require-excusing-at-every-turn movie -- while also being his first collaboration with a celebrated writer of Terrio's caliber, the math does itself.

MoS doesn't require excusing at every turn, nor is it ineffective or bad. It's simply held to a higher standard than other cbm's (for some reason) and has been nitpicked to an unprecedented level. At worst, it is a decent movie that's of better quality than the vast majority of cbm's.

 

[Herolee10]

If they were to adapt arcs like "Superman vs the Elite" or "World of New Krypton" into an actual Superman film, do you guys think that those films would require appearances from other Justice League members, considering the scope and nature of those stories?

 

[Nemeres]

MoS doesn't require excusing at every turn, nor is it ineffective or bad. It's simply held to a higher standard than other cbm's (for some reason) and has been nitpicked to an unprecedented level. At worst, it is a decent movie that's of better quality than the vast majority of cbm's.

Opinions will stay the same, but this is a simple point. If BVS manages to provide a marked feel of acceptance on the level of, say, Winter Soldier, what is likelier: that Snyder reassessed his approach to things in ways that he didn't during his previous 3 movies; or that the guy with a better knack at narrative and balance left his print. Could be that both occurred, but the major new element in the equation would be the Oscar winner.

 

[Astro13Zombie]

 

[mohoo]

"If (movie's name) is bad (director's name) will go."

Typical baiting

You can say the same about any film, from BvS to Star Wars to whatever.

 

[Travesty]

Just be ready for a 50% RT score: that's it.

Stop acting like this is going to be widely received as the next Messiah. From what I've seen online, it will take an act of god for this movie to be anywhere above an 80%. Personally, I've enjoyed Snyder's movies(still haven't seen Sucker Punch) for the most part. But it seems, people really hate this guy, for whatever reason it is. So it is what it is. He has an uphill battle to climb. I just don't think people would give him a pass for something that is ok. It has to be phenomenal in order to turn people, and even then, it's going to be hard for people to admit it.

 

[DerekLake]

One of the biggest slurs one can mount against a film is it's 'good but not great'. That it didn't push any boundaries and pretty much played out as expected.

Get ready for these criticisms.

No other CBM is required to perform at such high standards. I don't recall Iron Man, or The First Avenger, or Days of Future Past having to be "great" films that push boundaries. In fact, I'd hardly call any CBM "great." The only one that comes even remotely close is TDK, and even then, by general standards it was only "really good." Neither MOS not BvS should have to be considered "great" in order to be acceptable. They certainly shouldn't have to push any boundaries or do the unexpected.

This sort of double standard is frankly an excuse used by people who simply have different tastes.

 

[mohoo]

Oh, and if BvS makes 750 million, WB will be happy.

Prove me wrong

We've heard this many times with MoS with different version everytime.