BvS All Things Batman v Superman: An Open Discussion - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 269

[Rapunzel]

I think Knightmare Supes isn't a dictator, probably just full of himself, and hates Bats because maybe he thinks Bats is getting in the way of his stopping DS?

 

[GreenKToo]

So bring in 3D tickets and adjust for inflation, and we've got a surefire 200mil+ OW domestic. And hopefully 500m worldwide.

I assume WB is just being cautious, just in case the worse case happens.
With all the pre-sales, hype, and little bits that are starting to leak, its hard to imagine this doing less than 190/195 ow.

 

[RadioSha]

I was thinking this-- or

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this Flash is alternate reality Flash, and he has traveled back in time to stop Darkseid by getting the heroes to team up and help his younger self.

Imagine: the film starts with thee Knightmare....then we see a blur and time "rewinds" to the MoS flashback, and the film continues from there. Then at the end, that blur, Flash shows up, and tries to explain why the JL is needed, only to lose control of his powers from exhaustion and snap back to his future, only getting out the word, "Darkseid". Then the trinity realizes what they have to do and start recruitment, Flash being first.

This. This is the answer.

We all thought that the Black Zero event kicks off the movie- I am willing to believe it's the Knightmare scene now.

 

[Unbreakable Lex]

The Knightmare sequence is probably in the middle. Putting it at the end would just be weird.

The conflict between Bats and Supes are resolved and they shake hands and justice is dawning and then we're shown that they're fighting again? It would be too jarring to see.

Spoiler

the point of the knightmare sequence is to unite the seven so the events in the knightmare never transpire. At first glance, it seems clear that Darkseid has "commandeered" Superman but why his Super S soldiers are being attacked by parademons leaves one to wonder what is happening there. But make no mistake, the knightmare scene is almost certainly what sets up Justice League and will be closer to the end of the film.

 

[moviefreak]

I was thinking this-- or

Spoiler

this Flash is alternate reality Flash, and he has traveled back in time to stop Darkseid by getting the heroes to team up and help his younger self.

Imagine: the film starts with thee Knightmare....then we see a blur and time "rewinds" to the MoS flashback, and the film continues from there. Then at the end, that blur, Flash shows up, and tries to explain why the JL is needed, only to lose control of his powers from exhaustion and snap back to his future, only getting out the word, "Darkseid". Then the trinity realizes what they have to do and start recruitment, Flash being first.

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So an alternate Flash and the present day Flash? Whew! How would the trinity know anything about Darkseid? The only person who could possibly know a bit about Darkseid is the 5000 years old Wonder Woman.

 

[Zordan]

WB is low balling it. It would gross over 200 mill. I can feel it in the air, like I felt it with Deadpool

 

[Val_Zod]

I think Knightmare Supes isn't a dictator, probably just full of himself, and hates Bats because maybe he thinks Bats is getting in the way of his stopping DS?

Spoiler

Seems weird if that's a vision of the future. Wouldn't they have settled their differences?

 

[RadioSha]

Spoiler

the point of the knightmare sequence is to unite the seven so the events in the knightmare never transpire. At first glance, it seems clear that Darkseid has "commandeered" Superman but why his Super S soldiers are being attacked by parademons leaves one to wonder what is happening there. But make no mistake, the knightmare scene is almost certainly what sets up Justice League and will be closer to the end of the film.

Nah. The parademons were helping out Batman in that one moment in the second trailer. It wouldn't make sense.

 

[roach]

I assume WB is just being cautious, just in case the worse case happens.
With all the pre-sales, hype, and little bits that are starting to leak, its hard to imagine this doing less than 190/195 ow.

Considering that an on-the-way-out-the-door Exec's careless words are still used to "prove" Man of Steel was a disappointment...it's the smart thing to do

 

[Zordan]

Who said that about that you taling about?? me and few others

 

[moviefreak]

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Seems weird if that's a vision of the future. Wouldn't they have settled their differences?

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Unless something happened (to Superman) in between that time period.

 

[Unbreakable Lex]

Nah. The parademons were helping out Batman in that one moment in the second trailer. It wouldn't make sense.

Were they helping Batman or just attacking eveyrone?

 

[RadioSha]

Were they helping Batman or just attacking eveyrone?

It looked like Batman was being left alone. But who knows really.

 

[moviefreak]

Considering that an on-the-way-out-the-door Exec's careless words are still used to "prove" Man of Steel was a disappointment...it's the smart thing to do

Jeff Robinov has a new startup, Studio 8. Maybe my man Roach can make his break there?

 

[Val_Zod]

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Unless something happened (to Superman) in between that time period.

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That's why I brought up the possibility of mind control.

 

[Zordan]

here is the smart guy

 

[Zordan]

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Originally Posted by I Am The Knight
If Flash has a post-apocaliptic suit then he clearly has time traveled back to the present to warn the heroes about something. Darkseid, perhaps.

 

[GreenKToo]

I think Knightmare Supes isn't a dictator, probably just full of himself, and hates Bats because maybe he thinks Bats is getting in the way of his stopping DS?

Unless he is controlled by DS. I cant imagine they would be at odds over someone like DS, especially in an end of the world type situation that the vision appeared to show.
both would want the same thing, to bring down DS no matter what.
And besides, if it is a vision of the future, wouldn't supes know who bats is and what he stands for? seems a bit extreme to do all that over someone you just disagree with.
my money is on it being a supes that is not in control.

 

[Charlatan]

Amy is in GQ this month

 

[jasontodd]

so will we see 2 Batsuits? An older Blurple cowl...?

Showing older versions of Bat-suits in the Cave is something I've been really hoping for since the beginning.

 

[brucebatman]

so will we see 2 Batsuits? An older Blurple cowl...?

its only blue because its representing the blue light on the cowl from the chamber. in hand it probably black and blue 2 tone.

 

[Ghostcrow13]

Man people's heads are going to be all over the show if the film starts

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with the knightmare scene, then ends with a time traveling Flash warning the trinity about Darkseid.

I mean I would probably cry with joy. But others....

 

[Mikelus]

According to Affleck, Wonder Woman has the best action scenes (article in French) :

Le film introduit Wonder Woman pour la première fois au cinéma.

Ben Affleck: Gal Gadot a fait marcher le personnage de Wonder Woman à l’écran et pourtant c’est très compliqué de ne pas sombrer dans le ridicule. La frontière est extrêmement fine mais elle s’en sort admirablement bien. Les séquences d’action les plus impressionnantes du film sont pour elle en fait.

http://www.premiere.fr/Cinema/News-...an-Ben-Affleck-Batman-est-un-mec-un-peu-casse

This would go with the reports saying Wonder Woman steals the show. t:

 

[roach]

Jeff Robinov has a new startup, Studio 8. Maybe my man Roach can make his break there?

I have something in the works

 

[roach]

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Seems weird if that's a vision of the future. Wouldn't they have settled their differences?

I think that Batman fighting Superman...and getting other heroes involved destabilized the planet and made it easier for Darkseid to take over.