All Things DCEU News, Discussion, and Speculation - Part 1

[MbJ]

Maybe they think throwing big names at the problem will make it go away.

 

[FunkMiller]

What if the chase is unsuccessful and Batman loses the truck? He gets the second chance later. Or he can get the stuff right away if the chase is a success. There's no need to try to get it later from LexCorp. He can get it now. It doesn't paint Batman as an idiot.

Yeah. To be fair, this ain't an issue. If anything it's actually one of the most Batman things he does in the flick - ensuring he has a back up plan should he lose the truck for whatever reason.

Now, Superman stopping Batman from chasing the truck full of armed terrorists, just to tell him to stop being Batman - instead of actually stopping the truck full of armed terrorists... now that's ****ing stupid.

 

[Pickleweasel]

Maybe they think throwing big names at the problem will make it go away.

You're saying they shouldn't go after talent?

 

[Kane52630]

I think putting a possible band-aid on something isn't gonna make the problems go away.

 

[Kane52630]

Also this is what the DCEU has in development outside of Wonder Woman, JL, and Aquaman...

Shazam
Black Adam
Cyborg
Green Lantern Corps
The Flash
Batman Solo movie
JL Dark Universe
Deadshot
Gotham City Sirens
Justice League 2
Lobo
Man of Steel 2
Suicide Squad 2

 

[FunkMiller]

A Mel Gibson Suicide Squad movie?

Oh I'll believe that when I see it.

Given that he hates superhero movies and called BvS a piece of s***?

Jesus will direct that flick before Mel Gibson.

 

[StarLord]

Remember, they're taking the ''film-maker driven'' approach.

 

[Boom]

To be fair, he said superheroes are silly. Didn't say anything about supervillains.

 

[Kane52630]

Mel doesn't have it in him to make a PG-13 movie anyway.

 

[Boom]

If the WB would not give Ben Affleck what he wanted & he stepped down what makes people think they will give Mel Gibson what he wants & hes the last person thats a yes man. Would he wanna deal with WB since he only just recently worked so hard on getting his reputation back ? The WB will destroy it before pre production begins

As I said, I'll believe it when I see it.

I doubt this gets past the initial meeting.

 

[The Guard]

Boy, that negativity is really kneejerk at this point, isn't it?

We'll see what happens. There are certainly worse directorial choices. If they're going for a more down to earth warzone type thing, he could be a good fit. There's also always the possibility that SQUAD could be a springboard to something larger. JUSTICE LEAGUE or GL CORPS, though it seems unlikely.

Not gonna lie...the Gibson/George Miller connection occurs.

 

[The Guard]

Edit.

 

[Jekecy]

The problem is the behind the scenes meddling issues Warner Brothers has if Ben Affleck lost that battle I highly doubt Mel Gibson would win it

I'd sooner believe Ben buckled under the pressure than WB once again meddling into directorial affairs. Especially after the huge public outrage when the news came out for BvS and SS.

If they're even considering approaching Mel, they know he's not a studio puppet. This could be a sign of WB accepting they spoiled the pot one too many times and are actually willing to give the talent some leeway.

 

[Boom]

Is it too much to ask that they scale the budget back and go smaller with the sequel?

 

[Kane52630]

http://heroichollywood.com/mel-gibson-approchaed-suicide-squad-2/

One of the people that is also on the list of candidates to helm the sequel is Safe House director Daniel Espinosa while Gibson is taking his time to do his research. Variety is reporting that Ruben Fleischer (Zombieland) and Jonathan Levine (Warm Bodies) are also being eyed to possibly direct the sequel. Fury director David Ayer helmed the first installment featuring DC villains such as Deadshot, Captain Boomerang, Harley Quinn, Killer Croc and El Diablo which pulled in over $740 million at the worldwide box office.

 

[DrCosmic]

You're saying they shouldn't go after talent?

I am. They should go after exceptional talent that has profound interest in and passion for their characters. If they just go for random talent like this Mel Gibson, this will blow up in their faces hilariously. They haven't even learned the basic lesson from Snyder: don't hire people who hate your characters. They instead figured: "Oh, we need a more TALENTED person who hates our characters." Goodnight they're hopeless over there.

Boy, that negativity is really kneejerk at this point, isn't it?

Projecting trends is not knee jerk. It's like filling in the blank at the end of a _______.

 

[Jekecy]

I am. They should go after exceptional talent that has profound interest in and passion for their characters. If they just go for 'talent' like this Mel Gibson, this will blow up in their faces hilariously.

How do you know Mel wasn't intrigued by the concept? He's not exactly the type to do studio pics on the whim.

 

[DrCosmic]

How do you know Mel wasn't intrigued by the concept? He's not exactly the type to do studio pics on the whim.

Snyder was also intrigued with the concept of Superman, but when you hate the idea of superheroes, it unfits you to make a lovable superhero movie.

 

[MbJ]

I'd sooner believe Ben buckled under the pressure than WB once again meddling into directorial affairs. Especially after the huge public outrage when the news came out for BvS and SS.

The thing is BVS is the result of giving TOO MUCH creative freedom to the director. There were cuts to make the movie not be like, 3 hours long. The stuff that's wrong with it is still mostly Snyder.

What they should've learned from that is that you should let creative types have input but also be prepared to say no when they propose something stupid.

 

[Jekecy]

But Mel is not a yes man & would be one of the last people on this planet dealing with Warner Brothers ******** & Warner Brothers has a ****** reputation right now

That's the point. If Mel signs the dotted line, evidently there would be reason to believe they came to an understanding they wouldn't meddle into his affairs.

 

[sweetre15]

Warner Bros. has begun the search for the director who will take over the reins for the sequel to box office hit “Suicide Squad.” Mel Gibson is perhaps the most surprising of the possibilities.

Sources tell Variety that in addition to Gibson, Warners has met with — or is planning to meet with — Ruben Fleischer (“Zombieland”), Daniel Espinosa (“Safe House”), and Jonathan Levine (“Warm Bodies”).

Warner Bros. had no comment.

Insiders say that list could grow and that there is no front-runner at the moment.

David Ayer wrote and directed the original pic that starred Will Smith, Margot Robbie and Jared Leto. The pic followed a group of villains and anti-heroes — including Deadshot, Harley Quinn, the Joker, Captain Boomerang, and Killer Croc — who are forced into the service of the government in exchange for lighter sentences.

The original grossed more than $700 million at the box office and a sequel seemed logical.

Again, sources say no front-runner has emerged, though Gibson would be an intriguing choice as it would be his first major directing assignment since helming “Braveheart” at Paramount.

Deadline Hollywood first reported WB’s interest in Gibson.

http://variety.com/2017/film/news/s...n-jonathan-levine-ruben-fleischer-1201989606/

 

[Flint Marko]

There's no way Mel Gibson is directing Suicide Squad 2.

 

[Boom]

Fleischer wouldn't be terrible.

 

[Jekecy]

Snyder was also intrigued with the concept of Superman, but when you hate the idea of superheroes, it unfits you to make a lovable superhero movie.

And this would be relevant if we were talking about a superhero picture. This IP is the antithesis of that and it's probably why Mel was approached, because this is the only type of genre pic I could imagine him doing.

The thing is BVS is the result of giving TOO MUCH creative freedom to the director. There were cuts to make the movie not be like, 3 hours long. The stuff that's wrong with it is still mostly Snyder.

What they should've learned from that is that you should let creative types have input but also be prepared to say no when they propose something stupid.

Easier said than done. There are studio pics which succeeded because the studio intervened, or because the auteur fought for every decision and managed to win out.

The decisions which are deemed good/bad are only easy to identify after-the-fact. If it were so binary, there would be no studio production out there who would dare put out junk. Trash films generally affect their bottom line.

 

[sweetre15]

Snyder was also intrigued with the concept of Superman, but when you hate the idea of superheroes, it unfits you to make a lovable superhero movie.

I read somewhere that before Bryan Singer directed the X-Men films, he felt comics were unintelligent literature before Tom DeSantos got him to read the comics. For whatever low point he had with X-Men, people still hold DOFP and X2 in high regard so....