BvS All Things Superman and Batman: An Open Discussion - - Part 97

[shauner111]

Niiiice. I dont think McConaughey will take a role like that, but it would 100 percent make me excited for the movie. Same with Gosling as Flash. Ive been fancasting that guy in the role of Flash for the last 3 years.

 

[shauner111]

In conclusion, you sir just like Batman better! Just say it. He's the best. Also we haven't seen these other films to see how lacking they are in the 'acting' department...

t: Yup!

Right on. Because it should be the 60-year-old guy doing the running and saving while the invulnerable superalien goes for cover? Superman wouldn't let his father die, period. And you can replace "Superman" with "any properly wired human being". That scene is crap.

 

[Black Narcissus]

are you talking about one of his calculated guesses re him having a baby with eva? because, i came to the same conclusion here, and i got there with common sense. the fact that he just had a kid, could sway him to do one of these parts but i wouldn't hold my breath for it.

He better be, he sure as hell isn't directing another film soon.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Yea but Loki is that way in the comic. He not really a fighter per say. He use illusions and trickery to accomplish his goals. Yet look in movie the mange to leave the Avenger broken and disbanded before they came together. Don't forget the fact that he impaled Agent Coulson.

Zod was so bad and pathetic that he had to be rescued from Superman cause he was getting beat down so badly. The only real fight he put up was at the very end of the movie and he should been beating Superman down through most of the movie.

Oh lawd! If it's one thing that WB has over Marvel is their villains so far.

Loki, please! You just want to hug him and comb his hair.

 

[michael1975]

Umm, Zod had to be rescued from Superman because his senses were disoriented by Earth's atmosphere and yellow sun since his shield was destroyed. He hadn't adapted completely yet. The reason he didn't put up a fight the first time is because he couldn't.

You're absolutely right he was disoriented thus need to be saved. However even before he was disoriented he was getting his butt handed to him. What would been better and made him a more frighting villain is to have him over come that disorientation fast and then continue to beat the crap out of Superman.

As I said it seem to me that through much of the movie Zod did little in way of actually beat crap out of anything. He was all noise and couldn't back anything up. Faora on the other was awesome. She showed control over her powers. Watching her take out those Soldier as well as fighting Superman made her impressive and a much better villain that watching Zod.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Right on. Because it should be the 60-year-old guy doing the running and saving while the invulnerable superalien goes for cover? Superman wouldn't let his father die, period. And you can replace "Superman" with "any properly wired human being". That scene is crap.

This right here is the truth. I still loved MOS.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Well, if we're talking like The Joker, then yeah. He's an A-List villain and has been portrayed brilliantly in the past. He was also not in MOS and has nothing to do with this new universe so far

 

[Black Narcissus]

Who would win?

Superman vs Dr. Manhattan

 

[I Am The Knight]

Jonathan's death was utterly nonsensical, but I still think it's better than Superman and Lois kissing on top of a genocide scene.

I think the Tornado scene was way worse. Altough the kiss on top of a genocide one also followed a rather bizzarre scene where "Lois can't get sucked into the would-be black hole thing" or something like that

 

[michael1975]

Oh lawd! If it's one thing that WB has over Marvel is their villains so far.

Loki, please! You just want to hug him and comb his hair.

Loki was a written exactly as he should have been. Loki isn't like Thor. He not some great fighter. He is a character that creates mischief and problems all around. Which is exactly what he did in Thor and Avengers. The character was pretty much spot on.

Mean while WB took a villain who is a general in the Kryptonian army and is a great warrior and turn him in to a wimp. Through out the whole movie he pretty much gets his butt handed to him. His best fight scene was at the end and even then he was still getting stomped by Superman. This is the kind of villains we come to expect from WB in future DC projects?

Zod in comic book is a great general; evil but great. He a great fighter and smart and strategic as well. He is a great advisory for Superman. He is a great villain. WB effectively watered him down and turn him in to a wimp.

Sorry you guys can make fun of Loki and say what you will but he was written exactly as he is written in the comics. Which should be the object when making a comic book movie. The object is to capture those characters on the big screen. WB failed at this with Zod.

WB needs to step up there game if they are trying to make scary villains because there not off to a good start.

 

[Mrs. Wayne]

Loki was a written exactly as he should have been. Loki isn't like Thor. He not some great fighter. He is a character that creates mischief and problems all around. Which is exactly what he did in Thor and Avengers. The character was pretty much spot on.

Mean while WB took a villain who is a general in the Kryptonian army and is a great warrior and turn him in to a wimp. Through out the whole movie he pretty much gets his butt handed to him. His best fight scene was at the end and even then he was still getting stomped by Superman. This is the kind of villains we come to expect from WB in future DC projects?

Zod in comic book is a great general; evil but great. He a great fighter and smart and strategic as well. He is a great advisory for Superman. He is a great villain. WB effectively watered him down and turn him in to a wimp.

Sorry you guys can make fun of Loki and say what you will but he was written exactly as he is written in the comics. Which should be the object when making a comic book movie. The object is to capture those characters on the big screen. WB failed at this with Zod.

WB needs to step up there game if they are trying to make scary villains because there not off to a good start.

Hmmmmmm not sure how I should feel about this.

 

[Rorschach2012]

my primary issue with the MCU is the over reliance on comedy and the non threatening villains. i have confidence that Snyders DCU won't disappoint in either of those areas

 

[Mrs. Wayne]

my primary issue with the MCU is the over reliance on comedy and the non threatening villains. i have confidence that Snyders DCU won't disappoint in either of those areas

This. Like I said before, DC/WB aren't lacking in the villains department. They can make them effective.

 

[Rorschach2012]

i had a crazy idea on how they could possibly approach Brainiac. Perhaps Brainiac is like a sentient computer virus. At his core, he could be made up of microscopic nanobots that enter the blood stream through the pores or when inhaled. At the time of his introduction, the Brainiac virus could have been controlling the infected body of a Coluan scientist. Brainiac could come into contact with Lex Luthor and we would eventually see a version of Luthoriac.

It's not the way i think they should go, but i wouldn't mind something like this.

 

[michael1975]

my primary issue with the MCU is the over reliance on comedy and the non threatening villains. i have confidence that Snyders DCU won't disappoint in either of those areas

Again what makes Zod threating or a great villain. He talked a lot of smack and got his butt kicked through the entire course of the film.

Why can't a film have humor and charm and still have great villains and a serious side. I mean look at Star Wars. It has tons of humor and charm yet still has a dark story line and serious moments and great evil villains. It is possible to have all of it.

Man of Steel was to serious to dark and lack any personality when you get right down to it. The more and more I think about it the more and more I find wrong with it. Its not a bad film just lacks any real depth or personality. It's a bland dry movie. The Zod was horrible villain that in my opinion was not even remotely scary or worthy of Superman.

I'm sick of hearing that that super hero movies have to be serious and dark in order to be great Super Hero movies. That's load crap. People need to pick up a comic book once in a while. Superman comics have humor and wit and charm and yet story lines are serious and dark as well. Why not do something that reflects the title. Don't do something just to be different. Do something that fits with titles and the comic.

 

[Wise]

Gosling isn't going to play the Flash.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Who would win?

Superman vs Dr. Manhattan

Superman is faster than a speeding bullet, and Dr. Manhattan is not magic based.
Superman wins.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Loki was a written exactly as he should have been. Loki isn't like Thor. He not some great fighter. He is a character that creates mischief and problems all around. Which is exactly what he did in Thor and Avengers. The character was pretty much spot on.

Mean while WB took a villain who is a general in the Kryptonian army and is a great warrior and turn him in to a wimp. Through out the whole movie he pretty much gets his butt handed to him. His best fight scene was at the end and even then he was still getting stomped by Superman. This is the kind of villains we come to expect from WB in future DC projects?

Zod in comic book is a great general; evil but great. He a great fighter and smart and strategic as well. He is a great advisory for Superman. He is a great villain. WB effectively watered him down and turn him in to a wimp.

Sorry you guys can make fun of Loki and say what you will but he was written exactly as he is written in the comics. Which should be the object when making a comic book movie. The object is to capture those characters on the big screen. WB failed at this with Zod.

WB needs to step up there game if they are trying to make scary villains because there not off to a good start.

I can't right now.

To take a quote from my brotha! I'm too old for this ****.

 

[Wise]

Superman is faster than a speeding bullet, and Dr. Manhattan is not magic based.
Superman wins.

Superman really has no chance against Doc Manhattan. Before Clark can even blink he'd be transformed into a table or exploded into tiny blue and red chunks of meat and bone.

Superman might as well be fighting God.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Superman really has no chance against Doc Manhattan. Before Clark can even blink he'd be transformed into a table or exploded into tiny blue and red chunks of meat and bone.

Superman might as well be fighting God.

He needs more time to lift his hand.
The end

 

[dhandler01]

Gosling isn't going to play the Flash.

And McConaughey isnt going to play Hal. Nor should he outside of being cocky I see nothing in Hal that is anything like MM. I say this as a huge MM fan and a guy who has read hundreds of Hal Jordan/Green Lantern comics.

At least it isnt as bad as the "Seth Rogan for Guy Gardner" suggestion. That literally night be the wort fancasting ever.

 

[LamboMan]

He needs more time to lift his hand.
The end

Technically, Manhattan can't be killed. And all he needs to do is emit red sun radiation and kersplat.

No matter what Supes does, Manhattan will keep multiplying himself or coming back from nothingness.

I love Supes but I think Manhattan is the only one stronger than him at the same size. (Oh, i forgot that he can change his size too.)

 

[dhandler01]

Technically, Manhattan can't be killed. And all he needs to do is emit red sun radiation and kersplat.

No matter what Supes does, Manhattan will keep multiplying himself or coming back from nothingness.

I love Supes but I think Manhattan is the only one stronger than him at the same size. (Oh, i forgot that he can change his size too.)

Plus he has the epic blue dong!!

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

The real question is who wins in a three man (technically 4 man?) no holds barred Texas Cage Match: Doctor Solar:Man of the Atom, Dr. Manhattan or Firestorm, The Nuclear Man.

 

[LamboMan]

Plus he has the epic blue dong!!

LOL.