Am I the only one who liked DAD?

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Don't get me wrong, Casino Royale was way better then Die Another Day, but I actually really like DAD as well. I know it went a bit over the top with the invisible car, but I felt the movie was still really cool. Am I the only one who felt this way? Or are there other DAD fans out there.
 
I absolutely LOVED the first 20 minutes of Die Another Day. The PTS was exciting, elaborate and breathtaking. I'm almost positive (as are many others) that someone else directed that entire sequence.

Great action sequence, exotic locale, tense dialogue, semi-interesting villains (Moon and Zao) and Bond gets captured at the end. No gadget to save him, no one-liner to spare him; just pain and torture.

Of course, it all goes to hell in a handbasket pretty quickly, but oh well, what is one to do?
 
Don't get me wrong, Casino Royale was way better then Die Another Day, but I actually really like DAD as well. I know it went a bit over the top with the invisible car, but I felt the movie was still really cool. Am I the only one who felt this way? Or are there other DAD fans out there.

You know how you felt after leaving the cinema in 1997 having watched Batman & Robin? That's how I felt about Die Another Day.

Since Casino Royale has taken the 007 back to where it should be, I don't hate DAD as much as I did - it's amusing enough as an overblown, cartoon-ish runaround. But it remains, by far, the very worst James Bond film.

The puns in the final scene of Bond and Jinx in bed must have been written by an eight year old. "Shall I take it out now?" "No, leave it in a bit longer." Seriously?! You think that's good enough for a professional motion picture?!

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Madonna's cameo - awful. Terrible dialogue, terrible performance. If you got someone off the street outside the studio, they could come up with better lines ("I don't like cock fights.") and perform the very simple role of a fencing instructor who simply introduces two people better.

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I liked Miranda Frost a lot more than Jinx. Although the script was awful, Rosamund Pike managed to be somewhat restrained in the overt sexiness department - whereas Halle was almost like Uma Thurman's Poison Ivy in that she virtually looked at the camera and said, "Hello boys."

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All in all, a shame that Brosnan's last outing was so weak....but credit to the man he was still a great 007 to the end.

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I'll admit it. I saw DAD with a couple of friends for my 12th birthday, and we had a blast. I was still at an age when the most impressive moments in a film for me where big action scenes and loud explosions, so I didn't care back then about the ill conceived plot or the incredibly daft lapses in logic.

Looking back on it, I do realize that DAD is complete garbage past the first 20 minutes. The one saving grace is Brosnan, who remains pitch perfect in his role right through the end, even if his age is settling in
 
I really liked the movie and even though I don't think it's Pierce's best I don't agree that is the worst 007 movie.
 
You know how you felt after leaving the cinema in 1997 having watched Batman & Robin? That's how I felt about Die Another Day.

Yes, that's exactly how I felt and exactly how I am stillf eeling about it.
 
I liked it. I actually liked all of Brosnan's films, but maybe that's because I'm stubborn.
 
I thought Die Another Day was still good. It was cartoonish and too fake at some points. But it did something that no Bond movie ever did before. Capture Bond. Let him get tortured. If they can get the writers from classic Bond films and today's special effects companies... they can make the perfect Bond film. Personally I feel Poerce is a really good Bond. Don't blame him.. blame the writers. This is my ranking of Pierce Brosnan films.

1-Tomorrow Never Dies
2-The World is not enough
3-Die Another Day
4-Goldeneye
 
But it did something that no Bond movie ever did before. Capture Bond. Let him get tortured.
Sure it did. But it did it in a really tame, unsure way, and after the opening 15 minutes of the film, it was back to the same old, same old. That idea was great in concept, but entirely wasted in the film.
 
I thought GoldenEye was kinda boring. Same old Russian villains. Tomorrow Never Dies was awesome. Great action! Car chases!! This was also the movie that got me into the Bond films. The World is Not Enough was pretty good. Weird and different but I liked it. The last film the feature "Q", the first to have "R". Die Another Day... you know, was okay. Halle Berry was a terrible Bond girl. Once again Bond sleeps with every girl he sees. It was cheezy with the invisible car. Fake action and all.
 
1-Tomorrow Never Dies
2-The World is not enough
3-Die Another Day
4-Goldeneye

I concur with your placement, except I'd reverse 3 and 4. As some people know, I'm vocally not a fan of GoldenEye, but I'd rank it high above DAD. I'd rank Never Say Never Again high above DAD-!
 
Sure it did. But it did it in a really tame, unsure way, and after the opening 15 minutes of the film, it was back to the same old, same old. That idea was great in concept, but entirely wasted in the film.

It is funny, people who like DAD always mention that Bond was capture, as if it never happened in the past. The worst thing was that in DAD, it was so inconsequential. Not only is he back with the same old, same old, but that Bond's capture is so devoid of consequences for 007 makes the event unbelievable and the whole movie more cartoonish. In DAD, not only does Bond fight RonoGraves and drives an invisible car, he also manages to gain weight after a year being torture in a Korean prison. And forget about it after a few days.
 
It is funny, people who like DAD always mention that Bond was capture, as if it never happened in the past. The worst thing was that in DAD, it was so inconsequential. Not only is he back with the same old, same old, but that Bond's capture is so devoid of consequences for 007 makes the event unbelievable and the whole movie more cartoonish. In DAD, not only does Bond fight RonoGraves and drives an invisible car, he also manages to gain weight after a year being torture in a Korean prison. And forget about it after a few days.

One of the most famous scenes in movie history, let alone in the Bond franchise, is Goldfinger interrogating Bond with the laser. So I don't think it neccesarily has to do with the novelty of Bond being captured, because he's captured in almost every film.

What makes the DAD scenario different is that Brosnan's Bond always had an out. Whether it was some ridiculous gadget (see DAD's final act) or some over the top scenario (see the final act of DAD again) Bond was always able to escape the clutches of death. However, this time, some witty one-liner doesn't help. He is captured, interrogated and tortured. He is left behind, abandoned and betrayed. In other Bond films, it's a convinient plot point to help move things along; in DAD, it's the catalyst that would drive the film. However, the first 20 minutes is the setup for a film we never get to see. All of the momentum that is built is lost and the film spirals into a mess of self-parody.

Then again, most scenarios that Bond is put in are unbelievable. The last thing Bond would have been able to to scream was "to the left!" after Le Chiffre began tortruing him. He probably would have gasped for air, thrown up and passed out within 15 seconds.
 
However, the first 20 minutes is the setup for a film we never get to see. All of the momentum that is built is lost and the film spirals into a mess of self-parody.
Well, it also doesn't help that the capture is done with a certain level of Roger Moore-ishness, too. Before he's captured, the pre-title sequence is remarkably over the top, with some bad puns ("Saved by the bell"), and immediately following his capture it goes into IN LIKE FLINT mode where Bond can apparently stop his heart.

There was a great, risky Bond film somewhere inside of DIE ANOTHER DAY... a gritty film about Bond being captured, disavowed, and then following a smuggling ring of African conflict diamonds. But it was lost among all the rubbish.
 
Well, it also doesn't help that the capture is done with a certain level of Roger Moore-ishness, too. Before he's captured, the pre-title sequence is remarkably over the top, with some bad puns ("Saved by the bell"), and immediately following his capture it goes into IN LIKE FLINT mode where Bond can apparently stop his heart.

Roger Moore-ishness is the wrong made up word to use. Bond movies were remarkably over the top and had bad puns long before (and after) Roger Moore.
 
I thought Tomorrow Never Dies was like so awesome. In fact, that was the Bond film that got me into Bond movies. It was most fun to watch, and pretty creative.
 
Roger Moore-ishness is the wrong made up word to use. Bond movies were remarkably over the top and had bad puns long before (and after) Roger Moore.
Granted, but when you use a word like Roger Moore-ishness, everybody knows what you're talking about. :cwink:
 
The only even-remotely good thing about DAD was Xao.


And they killed him off...................go figure.
 
I quite enjoyed Die Another Day. It was a little too much but it was still an enjoyable outing for me.
 
The only even-remotely good thing about DAD was Xao.


And they killed him off...................go figure.

He was more a potentially good character that ended up walking around looking mean. His demise was utterly anticlimatic.
 
Die Another Day, while much inferior to Goldeneye and Tomorrow Never Dies, was a vast improvement on The World Is Not Enough, which I rank as probably the worst Bond movie ever (rivaled only by For Your Eyes Only).
 
Die Another Day, while much inferior to Goldeneye and Tomorrow Never Dies, was a vast improvement on The World Is Not Enough, which I rank as probably the worst Bond movie ever (rivaled only by For Your Eyes Only).

I actually loved World is not enough as well as tomorrow never dies. Goldeneye was ok, but it was definayl Pierce's worst as far as I'm concerned.
 
...It nearly murdered the franchise for good.

Quite the opposite, Die Another Day is one of the most successful Bond movies ever. It made $431,971,116 worldwide, second only to Die Another Day in the unajusted box office stakes.
 

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