Angels & Demons Official Thread

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I thought I would start off a thread. This'll probably die.
Anyways...I saw this on Wikipedia and am taking it with a grain of salt but it looks pretty legit.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bb/A_&_D_Title.jpg

It says that's on the Da Vinci Code DVD...I haven't been able to find it, I have the extended version...maybe it's just the theatrical cut?

Or maybe it's just fan artwork hoax?

:trans:
 
Yes, before you start the movie on the theatrical cut a short title teaser shows up with a voice over that says, "Now entering production - Angels & Demons."

Short and sweet. Nothing specific.
 
ahh...okay. I usually just go to scene selection and select first scene coz I'm sick of all the crap you have to get through to actually watch the movie. Oh well.
 
I know there used to be a thread. Oh well. I'll probably start complaining about this being made here too.
 
The book was pretty good. I prefered The Da Vinci Code book, though I know many prefer Angels and Demons. Either way, both books are exciting to read. While reading Da Vinci, I kept thinking about how awesome the movie would be.

This is what makes me wonder: how is The Da Vinci Code movie so much more boring than the book? I don't get it.
 
theShape said:
The book was pretty good. I prefered The Da Vinci Code book, though I know many prefer Angels and Demons. Either way, both books are exciting to read. While reading Da Vinci, I kept thinking about how awesome the movie would be.

This is what makes me wonder: how is The Da Vinci Code movie so much more boring than the book? I don't get it.

Because you knew what was going to happen
 
because that's what you get when Akiva Goldsman writes your damn screenplay.

He's the reason I'll wait for the DVD of angels and demons and will most likely be disappointed again.
 
Gonking said:
Because you knew what was going to happen

How can you say that? Seeing countless films that are movie adaptations, the reason this one wasn't good can't be "because you knew what was going to happen". It was just a bleak and poorly executed film.
 
theShape said:
The book was pretty good. I prefered The Da Vinci Code book, though I know many prefer Angels and Demons. Either way, both books are exciting to read. While reading Da Vinci, I kept thinking about how awesome the movie would be.

This is what makes me wonder: how is The Da Vinci Code movie so much more boring than the book? I don't get it.

Good point, as I thought it would be nigh impossible to craft something worse than the book :woot:
 
I hope not to offend, I assume you who didn't like this movie are my age (16)? I loved it, I loved the extended edition. I got it.
I don't think you got it, which is why you didn't like it.
One of my friends hated it because she didn't get it and she thought Date Movie was the best movie ever made.
Now seriously, Da Vinci Code was a great movie. I loved it and am picking up things all the time every time I watch it.
 
Don't worry, you didn't offend, for people that get offended at something over the internet(or most things in life) are people taking things much to seriously.

I am slightly older than you, but age is not a factor. I read The DaVinci code shortly after it came out, when it had gained some attention due to "controversy" but before it had made the best seller list. Maybe 4 years ago, perhaps a bit longer.
As I read it I was struck by two things: How decided un-controversial it was, and how poorly it was written. The only thing it had going for it was a fairly interesting if somewhat unoriginal idea(yes, folks, The Da Vinci code was not the first book to do what it did- it was just the first one to take flack for it). But rest assured, I "got" it.

So when news broke of a movie I groaned but then warmed up to it. After all, Brown attempted to craft a fast paced novel(attempted is the key word), and seeing as how it's strength was it's concept and it's worst fault was his horrid writing, a movie suddenly seemed like a good idea. You get the idea on screen, cut down the crap, don't have to deal with bad writing, etc.

But much to my dismay, the movie was just as bad, if not worse. Sure, I didn't have to wade through a book written by a man who can't write, I just had to sit through a movie that was dull, lifeless, and boring.

Since you are only 16, It is now my turn to make some pre-emptive assumptions. I'll assume that if you have read the book at all, it is something you enjoy. I'll also assume that you haven't read much else. That being said, there are plenty of books by plenty of authors that have written fast paced, "Action movie" like novels dealing with historical events and artifacts. The difference is that plenty of them are actually good, well written novels.

Even if you're not a big reader, the same concept can be applied to the movies. The Da Vinci Code was terrible, and here are some others which I considered better: National Treasure, Sahara, and you know, Indiana Jones.

But hey, if you liked it, you liked it. I like plenty of bad things. Date Movie is not one of them.
 
Hey, look! I tore it apart in those threads too.
 
Rez, I totally respect your opinion, and glad you wrote that post. I have read the novel and in my opinion he isn't a bad writer (he isn't the best either) but I found it actually more boring than the film, and I love the film. I didnt see the unoriginal-ness of it all in the plot, I just saw the unoriginal-ness of his story (Langdon comes to the murder of an old man, helps younger female relative solve the mystery, Silas = Hassassin, etc). So that is the only unoriginal-ness I see. I couldn't really care about the content, it's like Frankenstein, there's so many done, just take your pick.
I have actually read a lot of books and grew up on them. Mentioning Frankenstein, I loved that book, not at all what I expected, I read all the Harry Potters and the first two Lord of the Rings, the first 9 Lemony Snicket books, and that's just in the last two-three years.
I guess you could say I am "well-read"...if that's the proper term. I don't take your assumption offensive, I just wanna calmly seek the truth.

I'm sounding like such an ass here.
 
And a little more on-topic...I watched most of The Da Vinci Code with my parents New Years Eve, and just pressed play. What comes up?

Angels and Demons Announcement...yeah!

Although, Rez, I think the way Dan pieced everything ogether in the book is really clever. Or at least the movie. All the connections both subtle and blatant are great to observe how Langdon and Sophie solve the mystery.
I've only read half of A&D due to being bored of the unoriginal-ness of it as stated in my above post.
 
Well you obviously want to read, and enjoy reading, but I think you should expand your horizons. One of my exceptionally few talents is the ability to get through a book in a day or two, and while I don't read as much as I used to in late elementary to early high school, I still usually go through 40 or so books a year.
So that being said, some advice, if you care:

Worry less about reading the next best seller or upcoming volume in a series, and just look around for something you really like. Best sellers perpetuate their sales, and the only reason things like Harry Potter and Da Vinci Code sell so well is because when the masses pick out their one book to read a year, they pick out the books that everyone else has told them is good.
Unfortunately, "everyone else" consists of a bunch of morons, so children's novels like Harry Potter are cited by illiterate 40 year olds as "the best books" they've ever read, and writers(and I use the term loosely here) like Dan Brown get to go around breaking records just over some controversy and word of mouth.

Even classics are overread, and often overhyped- most of them are not deserving of their stature. Frankenstein is certainly good, and well worth a read, however. But as you progress through High School you'll find that many of the "great american novels" you are forced to read aren't so great after all, and overanalyzing them only drives this point home furthar.

The best thing to do is go out and find something YOU think looks good, and give it a chance. This can be somewhat difficult and daunting in a bookstore, and depends more on the person I suppose. I'm pretty good in judging whether or not something will be good when I pick it up, but- oh nevermind. I'm rambling.
Back to The DaVinci Code... I think you'll find with some more books under your belt that it is not the masterpiece many think it to be! A few suggestions follow.
Here's some other novels and their respective authors who write things in that vein, the key difference being they are actually good :cwink:

Cyclops by Clive Cussler - One of many Dirk Pitt novels(and one of the best), most of which are very good, and the worst of which is still far better than anything Dan Brown has ever written.
Here..


Ice Station by Matthew Reilly, the fastest action writer I've ever encountered. Screw James Bond, this is the stuff of what an action movie should be. It's the first of his books(novels are too classy for this) to feature Shane "Scarecrow" Schofield, and while the third book entitled just "Scarecrow" is by far the best, this is the starting point and is nearly just as good.
Here...


Subterranean by James Rollins, his first novel involving a cave expedition that gets ****ed halfway to Sunday. My personal favourite of his. His more recent books have taken place in the same universe and feature a miltary funded group known as Sigma Force, and they have(much to my dismay) been compared to the writings of Dan Brown(Crazy, as he's been at work far before Dan Brown was on the map- but I guess those marketing guys have to sell it somehow).
..And here.


Anyway, I'm bored. So I'm off. Merry New Year.
 
Ultimate Movie-Man said:
I thought I would start off a thread. This'll probably die.
Anyways...I saw this on Wikipedia and am taking it with a grain of salt but it looks pretty legit.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bb/A_%26_D_Title.jpg

It says that's on the Da Vinci Code DVD...I haven't been able to find it, I have the extended version...maybe it's just the theatrical cut?

Or maybe it's just fan artwork hoax?

:trans:
The DVD had an extended cut?



I hope AAD is better than DVC:csad:
 
This is the film that should have been made first imo. But as DVC was the more controversial book, that of course gets all the attention.

DVC wasn't a bad book, it just wasn't a very good book either. It basically ripped off A&D with the structure of it, and applied some different theories into it. Oh and the twist at the end, you could see coming from a mile off.

I thought DVC movie, was pretty boring and kind of uninspired. I expect something a little better from A&D.

I never fully agreed with the casting of Tom Hnks for Langdon. Yes Hanks is an awesome actor, but he never really fit with Langdon. Plus, in A&D things are referenced back to his Diving days, he physique etc At one point, it's required to save his life. Is that going to be cut out because Hanks is nowhere near the right shape? Or and we expected to suspend belief?
 
David Starsky said:
The DVD had an extended cut?



I hope AAD is better than DVC:csad:

The book, at least, is much better
 
Rez said:
Well you obviously want to read, and enjoy reading, but I think you should expand your horizons. One of my exceptionally few talents is the ability to get through a book in a day or two, and while I don't read as much as I used to in late elementary to early high school, I still usually go through 40 or so books a year.
So that being said, some advice, if you care:

Worry less about reading the next best seller or upcoming volume in a series, and just look around for something you really like. Best sellers perpetuate their sales, and the only reason things like Harry Potter and Da Vinci Code sell so well is because when the masses pick out their one book to read a year, they pick out the books that everyone else has told them is good.
Unfortunately, "everyone else" consists of a bunch of morons, so children's novels like Harry Potter are cited by illiterate 40 year olds as "the best books" they've ever read, and writers(and I use the term loosely here) like Dan Brown get to go around breaking records just over some controversy and word of mouth.

Even classics are overread, and often overhyped- most of them are not deserving of their stature. Frankenstein is certainly good, and well worth a read, however. But as you progress through High School you'll find that many of the "great american novels" you are forced to read aren't so great after all, and overanalyzing them only drives this point home furthar.

The best thing to do is go out and find something YOU think looks good, and give it a chance. This can be somewhat difficult and daunting in a bookstore, and depends more on the person I suppose. I'm pretty good in judging whether or not something will be good when I pick it up, but- oh nevermind. I'm rambling.
Back to The DaVinci Code... I think you'll find with some more books under your belt that it is not the masterpiece many think it to be! A few suggestions follow.
Here's some other novels and their respective authors who write things in that vein, the key difference being they are actually good :cwink:

Cyclops by Clive Cussler - One of many Dirk Pitt novels(and one of the best), most of which are very good, and the worst of which is still far better than anything Dan Brown has ever written.
Here..


Ice Station by Matthew Reilly, the fastest action writer I've ever encountered. Screw James Bond, this is the stuff of what an action movie should be. It's the first of his books(novels are too classy for this) to feature Shane "Scarecrow" Schofield, and while the third book entitled just "Scarecrow" is by far the best, this is the starting point and is nearly just as good.
Here...


Subterranean by James Rollins, his first novel involving a cave expedition that gets ****ed halfway to Sunday. My personal favourite of his. His more recent books have taken place in the same universe and feature a miltary funded group known as Sigma Force, and they have(much to my dismay) been compared to the writings of Dan Brown(Crazy, as he's been at work far before Dan Brown was on the map- but I guess those marketing guys have to sell it somehow).
..And here.


Anyway, I'm bored. So I'm off. Merry New Year.

Merry New Year...thanks for the suggestions. But don't say "screw James Bond"! I'm Ian Fleming's third generation cousin :(
 

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