The Dark Knight Rises Anne Hathaway as Selina Kyle/Catwoman X

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Dear Children,

If your contributions have essentially nothing to do with the characterization of Selina Kyle and are little more than transparent dreck tailored toward your goofy fanboy desires than anything viable, keep them to yourselves. It's becoming more than tiresome to have this thread periodically cleaned up because people seem to equate discussion of a character that boasts sensuality with ongoing blather about **** and ass.

In very short order, such individuals will be removed from discussing the topic altogether for the slightest transgressions. I very strongly suggest that the current climate of discussion resemble something of worth.

Grow up.

 

[QueenChaos]

I liked Burton's Catwoman,
and I think I shall like Nolan's Catwoman.

They will be, obviously, quite different... but I am sure I will appreciate both equally for different reasons.

 

[Bat-Mite]

The original Selina Kyle without any of the cat features sucked. Plain and simple. She wasn't what comic book fans, Batman fans, and even general fans drooled over. It wasn't until she started becoming more cat-like that the character cemented her IDENTITY within the comic book world.

Straight up, a Catwoman who resembles a cat with her look is the best version of the character there was or ever will be. There's a reason they've never gone back to do the first Selina Kyle.

It's nice of you to admit that it is solely a matter of preference, not a matter of spitting on the character's history.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I'm unsure about how I will feel about Nolan's Catwoman at this time.

We all should be. It's the first time they've tackled her.

Whereas, I know I will like Batman/Bruce, Alfred, Lucius...because they've been expertly done thus far.

 

[QueenChaos]

Nice touch having that advisory quote by Mister J added to Thread Manager here... very nice indeed, haha.

 

[regwec]

The original Selina Kyle without any of the cat features sucked. Plain and simple. She wasn't what comic book fans, Batman fans, and even general fans drooled over. It wasn't until she started becoming more cat-like that the character cemented her IDENTITY within the comic book world.

Straight up, a Catwoman who resembles a cat with her look is the best version of the character there was or ever will be. There's a reason they've never gone back to do the first Selina Kyle.

Indeed. I am not sure why anybody would choose to adapt a character with 70 years of history and development, and jettison 69 of those years.

Happily, Anne isn't sitting on that bike wearing a green dress and a frizzy hair-do. So the interpretation does at least have one foot in modernity. In fact, she really does have more in common with the post-millennial Catwoman than she does the 1940s Catwoman, so I really don't know why anyone is bringing her debut appearances into this.

 

[kickass]

It's nice of you to admit that it is solely a matter of preference, not a matter of spitting on the character's history.

I try to be nice at least once a week

 

[Bat-Mite]

I'm unsure about how I will feel about Nolan's Catwoman at this time.

We all should be. It's the first time they've tackled her.

Whereas, I know I will like Batman/Bruce, Alfred, Lucius...because they've been expertly done thus far.

I agree. We should expect the unexpected when it comes to this character.

 

[KalMart]

Because people now like to disregard what once was for something that will be, all in the name of the director who's ass they keep kissing. Trust me when I say people are more in love with the director than the characters.

Is it not okay to be more interested in a specific director's reinterpretation of Batman than in how closely it sticks to the comics? I'm not comparing Nolan to Kubrick, per se, but just about all his films were based on novels, and I'm more interested in what his movies do as films than covering all the bullet-points from the novels, etc. I completely understand an avid comic/Batman feeling differently, and I know that comics are built on a certain ongoing 'consistency' unlike standalone Novels...but I don't think that what Nolan is doing should be considered a disservice or what have you...just a different take....and one that's done very well, movie-wise, thus far.

I just see it as an 'alternate universe' graphic novel approach, if you will, as opposed to one that fits directly in with the ongoing continuity of the regular periodicals. With this one in particular reimagining certain aspects more drastically than others.

 

[papie]

1. Wrong.

2. Childish? What do you mean?

1: Since she is doing what the definition of a cat-burglar is, breaking into a house/building without being noticed, I would see that as her prime origin. Maybe she fancies cats as well, and that's why she dresses up as one as well as being a cat-burglar. I do not like anything that implies she is "half-cat".

2: Childish in the way to have humans act as animals for comedic effect.

 

[dc587]

Incidentally, Burton's Catwoman may have been a pretty extreme departure for the character, but she was also completely awesome.

Then why can't Nolan's Catwoman, which might turn out to be a departure from the comics looks-wise but could very well be more faithful to the source material character- and story-wise, be completely awesome too? I don't understand why it is ok for Burton's Catwoman to be an "extreme departure" from the comics, character-wise, but it's not ok for Nolan's Catwoman to be a departure from the comics, looks-wise?

Could it be because you've seen Pfeiffer's Catwoman within the context of a completed film, story and fully realized bat-world? I think that could be a BIG factor here. And, taking that into consideration, can you really judge Hathaway's Catwoman, or fairly compare her to Pfeiffer's, before you've seen her in the full context of Nolan's final vision?

 

[The Caped Knight]

I didn't like Burton version of Catwoman at all, The character was more of a revenge crazed psychotic sociopath than a cat burglar who gets inspired by the presence of Batman in Gotham city to create a cat costume.

I much rather enjoyed Bruce Timm version of Catwoman in Batman: The Animated series where Selina is a cat burglar.

 

[helloiamben]

I didn't like Burton version of Catwoman at all, The character was more of a revenge crazed psychotic sociopath than a cat burglar who gets inspired by the presence of Batman in Gotham city to create a cat costume.

I much rather enjoyed Bruce Timm version of Catwoman in Batman: The Animated series where Selina is a cat burglar.

Who was influenced by Batman Returns . . .

 

[The Caped Knight]

Who was influenced by Batman Returns . . .

I know that just without the bad homemade costume and the psychotic sociopath persona .

 

[papie]

Who was influenced by Batman Returns . . .

Hardly, It's pure comic-book.
I forgot, though. Does the BTAS version have animalistic character traits?
(ie acting like a real cat)

 

[Saint]

Then why can't Nolan's Catwoman, which might turn out to be a departure from the comics looks-wise but could very well be more faithful to the source material character- and story-wise, be completely awesome too?

She may be, but you may have noticed the film is not out yet. I cannot speculate to her quality as a character from one image. What I can do right now is comment on the look and speculate as to whether that affects elements of the character's personality that I appreciate--which is what I've been doing.

I'm going to ignore the rest of your post, as I do not need Joe Internet's "Wait for the film before judging" lecture, thanks. I'm pretty sure I can handle myself in that regard.

 

[TheVerbos]

from Saint

You know, I read this entire post, and I didn't find a single comment that was actually a response to anything I wrote.

I'm not sure why you're telling me that I have to "accept the not everyone will care." I know not everyone cares; that's their prerogative. My issue, as we can see by reading my actual post, is not the people who do not care; it's the people who post fallacious arguments.



Chill.

Believe it or not the 'Cat-Ears Matter' posts tend to run together. If you intended to elucidate one line of the discussion in particular be conscious of the fact that reading through a lot of it at first glance is like distinguishing Navy Blue and Dark Blue. I'm not familiar with each poster's postion, motivation for particular post etc.

As it stands what you wrote appeared fair game for my response. If I seemed careless I apologize.

 

[Mister Meddle]

Hardly, It's pure comic-book.
I forgot, though. Does the BTAS version have animalistic character traits?
(ie acting like a real cat)

Actually it was inspired by the Burton two. This is a pretty well known fact. You don't have to copy Burton in order to be inspired by his films....

 

[dc587]

I much rather enjoyed Bruce Timm version of Catwoman in Batman: The Animated series where Selina is a cat burglar.

Great picture, and yes, I love TAS' Catwoman and I think it's awesome that Nolan's uses the same long gloves

 

[Sith Scotti]

Who was influenced by Batman Returns . . .

I didn't know the animated series version Selena was a mentally unbalanced psychpath . must have missed that

 

[Bat-Mite]

I didn't like Burton version of Catwoman at all, The character was more of a revenge crazed psychotic sociopath than a cat burglar who gets inspired by the presence of Batman in Gotham city to create a cat costume.

I much rather enjoyed Bruce Timm version of Catwoman in Batman: The Animated series where Selina is a cat burglar.

I agree. I hope the final product of Catwoman is this movie is something like her. I don't care if they give her a stripper backstory so long as she is fully Catwoman in the end.

Who was influenced by Batman Returns . . .

The only thing influenced by that movie was her look, in particular a blonde Selina Kyle; it was forced on them to my knowledge, which is why they gave her black hair when they were able to. A ghoulish Penguin was also forced on them, which is why they made him more of his classic self in TNBA.

 

[dc587]

Hardly, It's pure comic-book.
I forgot, though. Does the BTAS version have animalistic character traits?
(ie acting like a real cat)

She doesn't lick herself or eat birds, if that's what you mean.

 

[KalMart]

She doesn't lick herself or eat birds, if that's what you mean.

Or crapping in potted plants, chasing moths, etc.....

 

[kickass]

Burton's Catwoman Vs. BTAS Catwoman.................guess what they have in common folks!