"Once you've done what you had to do, they'll never let you do what you want to do." It's something along those lines. She doesn't want to be a thief anymore.
I wish we got to know what she wanted to do after doing what she had to
"Once you've done what you had to do, they'll never let you do what you want to do." It's something along those lines. She doesn't want to be a thief anymore.
Yeah, that's true. She had to steal to survive. She could continue to steal if she had to, but I'm leaning on the side of not. If Bruce got his money back and wasn't flat broke (his money going back to Fox, who reroutes it to another account perhaps) Selina wouldn't have to be the bread (and jewellery) winner."Once you've done what you had to do, they'll never let you do what you want to do." It's something along those lines. She doesn't want to be a thief anymore.
I wonder what would've happened if Bruce didn't attend the masked ball and interject during Selina's dance? Perhaps the old guy took Selina back to his lavish house for some funky time, Selina steals his wife's (who's over in Ibiza) diamonds and then leaves the guy all alone.I could see her stealing some old guy's wallet/watch though if he dared grab her ash and Bruce turning a blind eye on that.
That's exactly what she had in mind. Go back to his place and ruffie his drink up and then have a blast stealing as much as she could.I wonder what would've happened if Bruce didn't attend the masked ball and interject during Selina's dance? Perhaps the old guy took Selina back to his lavish house for some funky time, Selina steals his wife's (who's over in Ibiza) diamonds and then leaves the guy all alone.
Yeah, it would've been hilarious to have seen the old guy's reactions. All excited and then completely violated once he realises the joke is on him.That's exactly what she had in mind. Go back to his place and ruffie his drink up and then have a blast stealing as much as she could.
I wonder what would've happened if Bruce didn't attend the masked ball and interject during Selina's dance? Perhaps the old guy took Selina back to his lavish house for some funky time, Selina steals his wife's (who's over in Ibiza) diamonds and then leaves the guy all alone.
"Once you've done what you had to do, they'll never let you do what you want to do." It's something along those lines. She doesn't want to be a thief anymore.
I think that's another reason why she decided to steal Bruce's car. Not only did he take the pearl necklace back, but he ruined her plans for the night. Plus it seemed like he really pissed her off a lot which he seemed to really enjoy, so she wanted some revenge. The constant outsmarting, tense flirting, and who's better at the chase while they probably don't even realize it. God I loved the whole scene and chemistry. I'm still pissed that she lead him to Bane's trap even if she didn't know that he was Bruce, but I'm glad she learned from her mistake and knew she couldn't leave him again. It was the turning point for her character.
Without meaning to really alter the movie because of dissatisfaction because I love the movie as is. I think from a character and story point it would have been much stronger if Bruce had slept with Selina before confronting Bane. Hear me out, Miranda's betrayel works with or without her sleeping with Bruce. And since the endgame is Bruce and Selina it only adds to the guilt Selina feels.
In her head she's doing what she has to in order to live. She cuts a deal with Bane, and really who is she betraying some guy she just met on a rooftop. And he's insisting she take him to Bane anyway. Figures buys herself an out then goes back to the guy she is beginning to care about.
Then Bane drops the little bombshell the guy she just made love to is the same guy she led into a trap. I mean we see the feelings all over her face in the movie as is. Imagine her feelings after a night of passion with Bruce to see him broken by Bane.
Again the film works as is, and the relationship and feelings between them still develops even in such a subtle way. I just think with that one tweak you keep the integrity of the story but add just a little bit more romantic drama for Bruce and Selina.
Not to mention that the bridge scene where they meet again won't be the same. The second part is really good because you can see how Selina has changed and in the end she stays in order to help Bruce. Not because she is madly in love with him, but because she thinks that this is the right thing to do and he's probably the only person to ever believe she is something more. To me that makes it so much powerful than you know "sleep with Bruce and is madly in love with him scenario".
Mostly true, but part of the reasons she comes back to save him is because she has feelings for him. It's not just because it's the right thing to do, because she doesn't really care all that much about that. She sees that he's the only one who sees a good person in her, deep down, which mirrors their relationship in certain versions of the comics. By the time she wants him to run away with her, she's fallen for him, but probably doesn't even realize it herself until she hears herself speak those worlds: "Come with me."Yeah, that's great but the next part won't be as good as it is now. If they made love before, the sewer scene would portray Selina's feelings but they would not be the same. I mean we can see her inner fights about what's right and wrong. The remorse written all over her face is priceless to me and vital as to why I love that scene so much. If she however slept with Bruce, she would hate herself and would probably try to save him.
Not to mention that the bridge scene where they meet again won't be the same. The second part is really good because you can see how Selina has changed and in the end she stays in order to help Bruce. Not because she is madly in love with him, but because she thinks that this is the right thing to do and he's probably the only person to ever believe she is something more. To me that makes it so much powerful than you know "sleep with Bruce and is madly in love with him scenario".
Plus, Talia sleeping with Bruce takes her betrayal on emotional level. She spits in the face of both his love and faith in people.
Mostly true, but part of the reasons she comes back to save him is because she has feelings for him. It's not just because it's the right thing to do, because she doesn't really care all that much about that. She sees that he's the only one who sees a good person in her, deep down, which mirrors their relationship in certain versions of the comics. By the time she wants him to run away with her, she's fallen for him, but probably doesn't even realize it herself until she hears herself speak those worlds: "Come with me."
As for her sleeping with him rather than Miranda, I just don't think that would work. Her character isn't like that. She's not the type to sleep with someone she barely knows, and she doesn't particularly like Bruce at that point. She's a con artist and a grifter who uses men to get what she wants. Her sleeping with someone she barely knows would ruin her character.
From the novelisation:Not to mention that she insists on kissing him even though there's a nuclear bomb that's about to go off.
The Dark Knight Rises - A Tale of Two Kisses.She stepped closer and wrapped her arm around his neck. She kissed him, not defiantly like before, not as a challenge, but tenderly and with feeling. He kissed her back, wishing that this moment could be longer, that they had more time. But time was the one thing they didn't have.
Not to mention that she insists on kissing him even though there's a nuclear bomb that's about to go off.
Obviously, the implication in the end is she's done being a burglar and she'll be starting fresh with Bruce but my friend said that she felt that she'll go back to being a thief had Bruce died. I told her that my impression is that she wanted to start fresh (hence her aggressively seeking out the "clean slate" program) regardless of whether Bruce died or not. And in a way, I felt that she wanted to prove Bruce right even if he died. My friend did bring up a good point though that being a burglar is what Selina is and she lives for the excitement of it (at least in the comics). Somehow, my impression is that Nolan's Selina isn't exactly like that and this one wanted that fresh start.
She stepped closer and wrapped her arm around his neck. She kissed him, not defiantly like before, not as a challenge, but tenderly and with feeling. He kissed her back, wishing that this moment could be longer, that they had more time. But time was the one thing they didn't have.
No kidding.
No kidding.
Love this. At least Bats doesn't seem passive here.