Anubis' "How would you do it?" Thread.

Werewolf by Night- I would have Jack Russell seek out lycanthropy. I would take a very shamanstic approach to how he acquires it, first becoming disembodied and then regaining consciousness. Instead of the traditional transformation into a werewolf, the metamorphosis would look more as if he was regurgitating a full, living wolf, leaving his human skin behind. The Night sky would narrate the story thus making the title seem less redundant.
 
Anubis said:
I say that then they go and do Annialation. I need to when the lotto too!!!

Anyway, I had an idea to update Hypno Hustler

He's been very busy scince he last got out of jail. He has been kidnapping lots of young girls and making dirty movies with them and having them work in his own underground brothal. His business has been very lucritive as he's become one of the biggest white slavers in the Tri-State area. He just happens to see a former big time super model, turned off broadway actress and decides to bring her in to his stable. Only problem is, she's married to Spider-Man. The rest just writes itself really. As far as personality goes, I would have him be far more, disturbing, kinda like Purple Man's recent update, but less, Hannibal Lecter. He's all about the business now. Keeping a low profile. No more costumes. Just a cold calculating individual.
I had an idea of bringing back Hypno Hustler for one of my Frogman stories (reposted a few pages ago), and naturally it was a bit more comical. Basically he did what most musicians who've served time in jail do; hit the hip-hop scene. He puts subliminal messages in his music CD's and masses hordes of devoted fans eager to buy more, and naturally becomes a very rich man without amassing much superhero attention. Naturally he would change his name to Hyp Huddy or H. Diddy.
 
Clone Saga 2

Peter's life is going pretty good, his past is either burried or confronted... right? there is one peice of his past still out there. Wandering europe, but now he's made his way back to New York. Kaine returns, but he's not alone, hot on his heels is are men calling themselves Vengance, Redress, and Restitution. they move in a way that is all to familiar, and they all mean to kill Kaine for his crimes. A chapter Spidey thought closed in his life is ripped open once more with fresh wounds.
 
Ultimate Hobgoblin. Harry turns into a more traditional spider-foe goblin, w/o much mucsle. Instead, he does maniacal things such as rapes and blows up the Parker house, which causes them to move.
 
Dread said:
I had an idea of bringing back Hypno Hustler for one of my Frogman stories (reposted a few pages ago), and naturally it was a bit more comical. Basically he did what most musicians who've served time in jail do; hit the hip-hop scene. He puts subliminal messages in his music CD's and masses hordes of devoted fans eager to buy more, and naturally becomes a very rich man without amassing much superhero attention. Naturally he would change his name to Hyp Huddy or H. Diddy.

Dude, do it! I loved your Frogman do it, do it! :up:
 
deemar325 said:
Dude, do it! I loved your Frogman do it, do it! :up:
Glad you like.

I could toggle with my NEW CHAMPIONS idea a bit but maybe to keep the theme alive, I'll mention my take on Mysterio, since I did plan to write him in yet another eventual Spider-Fic. Basically, much like Luminous from "SUPERMAN: THE ANIMATED SERIES" and "JUSTICE LEAGUE", he would get his hands on technology to make his holograms solid, which would basically make him appear godlike if you're on his home turf. As for his motivation, I would see him as sort of a performer out to "prove" something, especially since this is a second Mysterio filling in for the dead original. In the story, Mysterio's main goal is to make Spider-Man go crazy, to prove that everything he stands for, the mask, the selfless heroism, is all an illusion, and being the master of illusion, he'll attempt to manipulate it. Sure, he'll also be interested in robbing banks and all, but right now it's more personal; ANYONE can steal some diamonds or something if they need cash.

Mysterio would also take a cue from "The Matrix" and employ special electronic technology that effects the senses that people percieve via electric impulses in the brain; only Spider-Man's "spider-sense" would be immune to control. Why leave all the "mind-screwing" to telepaths? Since Mysterio lacks a lot of physical power no matter what armor or chemicals he is using, his ploy is to drive you crazy, strip under the emotional baggage, make you beat yourself and exploit one then. Maybe someone's already used Mysterio this way, but this is my take.
 
I dig the Mysterio thing and your Hypno Hustler stuff Dread. :up:

I was trying to think of a way to do something with Blade and make it stick. I took a look at his Background and stuff and I'm trying to figure out what to keep and what to ignore. Maybe you guys can give me a few ideas. Heres a rundown on his history if you don't know. What do you think sounds interesting enough to incorporate into a revamp?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blade_(comics)
 
Anubis said:
I dig the Mysterio thing and your Hypno Hustler stuff Dread. :up:

I was trying to think of a way to do something with Blade and make it stick. I took a look at his Background and stuff and I'm trying to figure out what to keep and what to ignore. Maybe you guys can give me a few ideas. Heres a rundown on his history if you don't know. What do you think sounds interesting enough to incorporate into a revamp?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blade_(comics)
Not much into Blade, but I'll get into what I always felt was "wrong" with him. Mainly, he is too simple of a character to be long-lasting for very long; his vendetta against vampires basically locks him into a very static and inflexible genre, especially since Marvel doesn't really invest much into "horror" after October and the market, they claim, is not there. True, Kirkman's WALKING DEAD is getting critical raves, but it sells like garbage.

Now, there are plenty of characters who have been "stale men of action" who have managed to be in successful series, but one needs to do more with them. Firstly, Blade needs a more stable supporting cast; usually he just gets involved with various groups of vampire hunters who all get killed. These characters need to give him ways to flesh himself out emotionally, make friends, even lovers.

Secondly, Blade has to get more tragic in a sense; here is someone who, much like a mutant, is cursed by what he was born as, and has shut out EVERYTHING in his life in pursuit of a goal that seems to never end. For every vampire he kills, more crop up. Dracula keeps getting resurrected. Not even Dr. Strange, the Sorceror Supreme, could kill every vampire on earth for long. Not saying we need 5 issues of Blade crying and talking to wall or something, but he needs to become more of a character, and not a walking "attitude and action sequence" man. Someone needs to hit home that maybe he needs to find some additional purpose in his life beyond killing vampires, because he may need one eventually. Maybe he even QUITS for a while and tries it, to rediscover who he is. For too long Blade has seemed like yet another archetype.

Thirdly, he needs to grow a good haircut. Tired of every black hero being bald now, and the afro look was rather lame in the 70's.

And fourthly, he needs to become a staple of the Marvel universe by establishing, DE FACTO, that he is THE authority on vampires. No one, not even Dr. Strange in a sense, knows as much details about vampires and all their vast powers. Everyone has to have something.

Blade also may need some writers/artists who can capture his pulp hero feel, like Hellboy and The Goon have. Of course, again, neither Hellboy or The Goon sell the way Marvel likes. Marvel should accept that some books exist to fill a niche and to tell a good story, not to outsell something. Blade's stories should be exotic, urban thrillers, and perhaps this means a better class of villians. True, this may mean "vampires with gimmicks", but how about others? How about gothies who pretend to be vampires, a serial killer who also takes on the motif, or maybe even people who, like in a CROW movie, seek to capture Blade and drain some of his blood to get a little power. Every good hero needs some villians and relying on Dracula all the time barely works for CASTELVANIA games these days. What would happen if a vamp Blade happens to kill was also a mafia boss with some very angry allies? That sort of thing. Get creative, but still workable within that pulp thing (like no "Blade in space" stories, unless maybe some vampires were in a space station for some reason...).
 
Dread said:
Not much into Blade, but I'll get into what I always felt was "wrong" with him. Mainly, he is too simple of a character to be long-lasting for very long; his vendetta against vampires basically locks him into a very static and inflexible genre, especially since Marvel doesn't really invest much into "horror" after October and the market, they claim, is not there. True, Kirkman's WALKING DEAD is getting critical raves, but it sells like garbage.

I love Walking Dead, and it's a damn shame it doesn't sell as well as it should. But hey, what are you gonna do? Anyway, your right. He does need to move outside of the whole Vampire thing. But Marvel really does need to just put out books for the art fourm rather than for the bucks. Spidey and the X-Men will do all that. Put out some stuff that could stand the test of time. Grab that faction that isn't all into mutants and superheros. I've always felt Marvel has been seriously lacking in that sort of thing while DC has trived with their vertigo line. And yeah, I know, DC has WB backing them, whatever. They could stand to put out five or sixs books that get by on critical acclaim.

Now, there are plenty of characters who have been "stale men of action" who have managed to be in successful series, but one needs to do more with them. Firstly, Blade needs a more stable supporting cast; usually he just gets involved with various groups of vampire hunters who all get killed. These characters need to give him ways to flesh himself out emotionally, make friends, even lovers.



Secondly, Blade has to get more tragic in a sense; here is someone who, much like a mutant, is cursed by what he was born as, and has shut out EVERYTHING in his life in pursuit of a goal that seems to never end. For every vampire he kills, more crop up. Dracula keeps getting resurrected. Not even Dr. Strange, the Sorceror Supreme, could kill every vampire on earth for long. Not saying we need 5 issues of Blade crying and talking to wall or something, but he needs to become more of a character, and not a walking "attitude and action sequence" man. Someone needs to hit home that maybe he needs to find some additional purpose in his life beyond killing vampires, because he may need one eventually. Maybe he even QUITS for a while and tries it, to rediscover who he is. For too long Blade has seemed like yet another archetype.

From his bio I can see that he had a few, but nothing that has lasted. Most of em are dead, and yes, they were Vampire hunters. Maybe he would do well with a kid? Lets say, he maybe quit, like you suggested, and chose to spend a few years with, I believe there was a group of vampires who chose not to feed on humans and tried to live a peacful life. Well lets say he spent a number of years with them. Learning to suppress the hunger without the use of drugs but through meditation. But a new faction of Vampires, or maybe, vampire hunters, invade and wipe them all out. Think about that little bit. Blade going after the hunters rather than the hunted. Lets say that this group of vampires that he was with were universally considered protected by most hunters. But this group has taken a all or nothing stance on the killing of vamps. Not all Vampires accept what they are. And there are a few that have not only chosen not to follow their instincts, but help in the fight agianst other vampires. And this group ignored that fact. And have been killing indescrimiatly all over the world. Or we could just go with your avarage story of a new Vampire faction trying to consolodate power by wiping out there enimes and unknown players like this peacful little group. Whatever works. I dig the going after rogue hunters myself. Anyway, he and a few others manage to survive including a young child. A born Vampire who he takes under his wing.

Thirdly, he needs to grow a good haircut. Tired of every black hero being bald now, and the afro look was rather lame in the 70's. blame the artist. Few know how to draw a black man without resorting to having them be bald or have a fro. A good fade works.

And fourthly, he needs to become a staple of the Marvel universe by establishing, DE FACTO, that he is THE authority on vampires. No one, not even Dr. Strange in a sense, knows as much details about vampires and all their vast powers. Everyone has to have something. Couldn't agree more.

Blade also may need some writers/artists who can capture his pulp hero feel, like Hellboy and The Goon have. Of course, again, neither Hellboy or The Goon sell the way Marvel likes. Marvel should accept that some books exist to fill a niche and to tell a good story, not to outsell something. Blade's stories should be exotic, urban thrillers, and perhaps this means a better class of villians. True, this may mean "vampires with gimmicks", but how about others? How about gothies who pretend to be vampires, a serial killer who also takes on the motif, or maybe even people who, like in a CROW movie, seek to capture Blade and drain some of his blood to get a little power. Every good hero needs some villians and relying on Dracula all the time barely works for CASTELVANIA games these days. What would happen if a vamp Blade happens to kill was also a mafia boss with some very angry allies? That sort of thing. Get creative, but still workable within that pulp thing (like no "Blade in space" stories, unless maybe some vampires were in a space station for some reason...).

I had an idea of a vampire sect made up of turned mutants. Imagine an X-Gene coupled with the power of a vampire. I'd also like to see him take on other supernatural things like Werewolves or ghosts or devil worshipers or whatever. Gotta be more to him than killing Vamps. Nazis are always nice. but hellboys kinda got that genre locked.

I had an idea for a whole line of books that focus on the supernatural. Like Strange and Brother Voodoo, and Blade, and I also had an idea for a new character who fits something I have yet to see from Marvel. A John Constantine type of character. The type of guy that deals in the dirty side of magic. Not this defending the mulitverse from some supernatural entity but some dude who takes on a serial killer who takes out people on the Astral Plane. Or a guy who steals souls for a shot at eternal life. weird, black magic type of s**t. I can't do it justice, but I figure somebody like Alan Moore or Grant Morrision would have a field day. A guy who looks like a grown up Harry Potter, only shabby and depressed. He also suffers from OCD and is all crazy and anal about everything. Like if Monk was a paranormal investigator.
 
UMC2: Avengers!

Captain America-Sharon Carter, rather than have "American Dream" we have a career soldier who, due to her merit has been chosen to take up the mantel as "Captain America".

Freebooter-Jason Castle, the nephew of Frank Castle. he is an expert hunter and tracker, highly skilled with a bow and arrow. He works as a bounty hunter always happy to hunt down scum and get paid for it. he is desperate to dissassociate himself with his uncle, who he believes to be a murderous sociopath

Mainframe-Johnny Gallo, the armor is designed by Eddie McDoughnal, but Eddie is not interested at all in the hero buisness, but his best friend and most trusted confidant, Johnny Gallo still is. the armor is designed to enhance Johnny's natural mutant abilities and add the abilities one expects of Iron-Man.

Blue Streak- Crystal Maximoff, she defies her mother's wishes and refuses to remain in Attilan. she has struck out on her own to make her own way. she has the strength and endurance of any Inhuman, along with her mother's powers, and her father's infamous speed. when she turned 16 her hair turned a light shade of blue.

Second Sight- Layla Miller, the twenty-something heir apparant to the "XXX-investigations" company, the largest super-human investigations firm in the world. Layla posses a bizzare mutant gift that is an amalgam of precognition, telepathy, and hyper-intuition. also she was trained in combat by her old friends, the original staff.

Stature- Cassie Lang, she's become a guidance counselor for highschool teens, but by night, she still fights the good fight, still against her mother's wishes. when the Pym's died, she was left a substantial amount of equipment which Cassie put together to enhance Stature's power. though she's joined the Next Avengers, she still considers her self a Young Avenger.

Heroine- Gertrude Yorkes, at best a "Probationary member". Gert is an excellent and charasmatic leader. she is reluctant to join for several reasons, most of which she keeps to herself. one of them is the large team she leads in LA, mostly runaways of the non-powered variety, but several powered ones. together they fight a losing battle to clean up the City of Angels. she does this in memory of her fallen commrades... in memory of love and family lost.
 
Anubis said:
I had an idea of a vampire sect made up of turned mutants. Imagine an X-Gene coupled with the power of a vampire. I'd also like to see him take on other supernatural things like Werewolves or ghosts or devil worshipers or whatever. Gotta be more to him than killing Vamps. Nazis are always nice. but hellboys kinda got that genre locked.

I had an idea for a whole line of books that focus on the supernatural. Like Strange and Brother Voodoo, and Blade, and I also had an idea for a new character who fits something I have yet to see from Marvel. A John Constantine type of character. The type of guy that deals in the dirty side of magic. Not this defending the mulitverse from some supernatural entity but some dude who takes on a serial killer who takes out people on the Astral Plane. Or a guy who steals souls for a shot at eternal life. weird, black magic type of s**t. I can't do it justice, but I figure somebody like Alan Moore or Grant Morrision would have a field day. A guy who looks like a grown up Harry Potter, only shabby and depressed. He also suffers from OCD and is all crazy and anal about everything. Like if Monk was a paranormal investigator.
I agree that Marvel could do well with their own version of a Vertigo; doing books that they acknowledge won't sell like gangbusters but put out for either art's sake or to fulfill a genre. Right now, Marvel seems to only "support" books that either sell well (usually above the Top 80 in the top 100 best sellers) on a monthly basis, or books that sell well in the digest market (which has essentially saved poor selling titles like RUNAWAYS and SPIDER-GIRL, and sparked a revival of SENTINAL). But I agree, the market for characters more on the occult side could be strong if they applied themselves; after all, manga's been selling like hotcakes and that includes a lot of occult tales.

You have a lot of original ideas for Blade, and they all sound fine. I won't discuss every point because, as I said, I was never a big fan of Blade, so my personal imput may be rather limited. I just never got into him, for many of the reasons I cited, perhaps. It is rather disturbing that Marvel, since 1998, has utterly been unable to capitilize on the character in some constructive way. For chrissakes, they at least managed to churn out a sellable PUNISHER title (although that's likely because of Ennis, and Ennis alone), and GHOST RIDER looks back on track in time for his move in 2007 (again, Ennis).

Blade branching out from vampires to a general "monster hunter" role could expand the universe, and I like your idea about possible "pacifist vampires" and rogue hunters; the idea is to flex the rules of the genre and the character and flesh him out a bit. A longer-term supporting cast is also key; where'd Spider-Man be without MJ, Aunt May, and JJJ? Superman without Lois and Jimmy? Batman without Alfred and Gordon? And so on.

And the notion that a market for "supernatual characters" isn't there has been proven wrong by DC with their "Days of Vengence" mini, which starred a roster of C and lower listers and it outsold quite a lot of other books. Rann/Thanagarian War also sold well, and that was a space opera, something Marvel's all but ignored until this year with announcing "Annihilation". So in one way, the increased rivalry and success of DC may FORCE Marvel to look into their fringes of their universe for new ideas for titles.
 
Anubis said:
I had an idea of a vampire sect made up of turned mutants. Imagine an X-Gene coupled with the power of a vampire. I'd also like to see him take on other supernatural things like Werewolves or ghosts or devil worshipers or whatever. Gotta be more to him than killing Vamps. Nazis are always nice. but hellboys kinda got that genre locked.

I had an idea for a whole line of books that focus on the supernatural. Like Strange and Brother Voodoo, and Blade, and I also had an idea for a new character who fits something I have yet to see from Marvel. A John Constantine type of character. The type of guy that deals in the dirty side of magic. Not this defending the mulitverse from some supernatural entity but some dude who takes on a serial killer who takes out people on the Astral Plane. Or a guy who steals souls for a shot at eternal life. weird, black magic type of s**t. I can't do it justice, but I figure somebody like Alan Moore or Grant Morrision would have a field day. A guy who looks like a grown up Harry Potter, only shabby and depressed. He also suffers from OCD and is all crazy and anal about everything. Like if Monk was a paranormal investigator.

Anubis, as you know, I'm very interested in getting a respectable line of supernatural comics going for Marvel.
What did you think of my Werewolf-by Night treatment? (I mean the third one which I posted here not to long ago).
It'd be great to see Marvel treating magick as something mysterious and more serious than they have been.
 
Marvel's last attempt at magic was JMS' STRANGE revamp, which was just an underachieving mire that blatently crossed THE MATRIX with a few dabs of DIABLO 2 (the game). Hopefully their next attempts would be better.
 
I agree. Anyone know how to write an inquiry letter? I'm a big fan of "If you don't like the way something is being done, then do it yourself" ideals as applies to this.
 
Zoken said:
UMC2: Avengers!

Captain America-Sharon Carter, rather than have "American Dream" we have a career soldier who, due to her merit has been chosen to take up the mantel as "Captain America".

Freebooter-Jason Castle, the nephew of Frank Castle. he is an expert hunter and tracker, highly skilled with a bow and arrow. He works as a bounty hunter always happy to hunt down scum and get paid for it. he is desperate to dissassociate himself with his uncle, who he believes to be a murderous sociopath

Mainframe-Johnny Gallo, the armor is designed by Eddie McDoughnal, but Eddie is not interested at all in the hero buisness, but his best friend and most trusted confidant, Johnny Gallo still is. the armor is designed to enhance Johnny's natural mutant abilities and add the abilities one expects of Iron-Man.

Blue Streak- Crystal Maximoff, she defies her mother's wishes and refuses to remain in Attilan. she has struck out on her own to make her own way. she has the strength and endurance of any Inhuman, along with her mother's powers, and her father's infamous speed. when she turned 16 her hair turned a light shade of blue.

Second Sight- Layla Miller, the twenty-something heir apparant to the "XXX-investigations" company, the largest super-human investigations firm in the world. Layla posses a bizzare mutant gift that is an amalgam of precognition, telepathy, and hyper-intuition. also she was trained in combat by her old friends, the original staff.

Stature- Cassie Lang, she's become a guidance counselor for highschool teens, but by night, she still fights the good fight, still against her mother's wishes. when the Pym's died, she was left a substantial amount of equipment which Cassie put together to enhance Stature's power. though she's joined the Next Avengers, she still considers her self a Young Avenger.

Heroine- Gertrude Yorkes, at best a "Probationary member". Gert is an excellent and charasmatic leader. she is reluctant to join for several reasons, most of which she keeps to herself. one of them is the large team she leads in LA, mostly runaways of the non-powered variety, but several powered ones. together they fight a losing battle to clean up the City of Angels. she does this in memory of her fallen commrades... in memory of love and family lost.

Nice :up:
 
Xofenroht said:
Anubis, as you know, I'm very interested in getting a respectable line of supernatural comics going for Marvel.
What did you think of my Werewolf-by Night treatment? (I mean the third one which I posted here not to long ago).

Yeah of course. I love all your Werewolf-by Night stuff. And I dig the way you describe his change. It sounds freaky. SOmething that would totally look good on the page. Hey, anytime you get more ideas, please put em up. It's some of the best stuff in the whole thread.

It'd be great to see Marvel treating magick as something mysterious and more serious than they have been.

I'm with you there man. The reason I've been into magic and stuff recently is because I recently finished reading the second volume of both Promethia and Morrison's Doom Patrol and I was just blown away by some of the stuff Moore and Morrison had come up with. I've even considered doing more research into magic in general. Looking up any books on magic and stuff on Crowly. I look at Marvel and I see so much potnetial. Magic really seems rather untouched really.
 
Marvel had a supernatural themed book out of their MARVEL NEXT line a few months back, I think it was called Spellbinders. Didn't read it, but it couldn't have been worse than JMS' STRANGE.

It's not my bag, but I don't believe it should be an ignored genre. Every angle should be tapped to the fullest; that's what DC has been doing for years, and that's why Marvel's scared as a piggie in a spit now that the sales have caught up with them.
 
Anubis said:

I was trying to mesh the original A-Next team in with my own ideas. J2 still exists but he is part of something else... right now I want to call them "The Bastards" but if I can get a better suggestion I'd go with that. also J2 is quite different from his original incarnation.

I added Second Sight on a whim, and I added Heroine because... well I love the Runaways.
 
Dread said:
Good idea for Elsa, DBM. I could see it selling if done well. The female audience in comics is a tricky one, and often times when they DO attach themselves to a property or title, it is unintentional. Ancedotal evidence suggests that while women don't make up a sizeable amount of comic book readers (although many do), more of them are into Manga and Anime. And "X-Men: Evolution", a show aimed at the usual 9-15 year old male audience, was a resounding hit with girls around that age-group. Considering that half the cast were women, and Rogue got a LOT of focus, it shouldn't have been a shock. Many fan-sites of the show at the time, including Beyond Evolution at Toonzone, were founded by, yep, women.

To tell you the truth, a lot of my "original" ideas have been posted already on this topic pages ago, so the most I have left to offer is a simple action thriller story starring two Marvel characters. It's the sort of mini that could likely be pushed out for X-Fans and expected to be made into a TPB. The plot is almost childishly simple. But I'm a believer that simple plots can still be satisfying if they entertain.

So, here goes with what I have left:
Taskmaster/Mystique

I don't have a working title beyond the two stars of the mini, Taskmaster and Mystique. When I read the TASKMASTER series from 2002, where Taskmaster seemed very adept at using his power and hologram emitor to imitate people, I instantly thought it would be very interesting if he met Mystique, the X-World's espionage fatale. Both of them make livings and operate by "becoming" other people, and by using traits from other people, and leaving themselves, seemingly, as "blank slates", forever adapting to their situation or stimuli. In the series, Taskmaster never removed his mask willingly, and I intend to keep that as a quirk; he never reveals his name or face not because of fears of reprisals, but because he feels his real self is a "nobody", an average Joe that he despises; he'd much rather be Taskmaster. Mystique, meanwhile, is such an actress and spy that many people are hard pressed to know where her true feelings end and the act begins. And while Taskmaster has the uncanny ability of "photographic reflexes", the insistance is that he is not a mutant.

As I said, the plot of the story is simple for a direct purpose; the real meat of the story is how Taskmaster and Mystique interact and operate in a situation where they need to rely on each other to live. And of course, to showcase some clever and spectacular collisions between the pair and their enemies.

Who are the enemies, and what is this plot? Like I said, simple. A mysterious old businessman, who claims to have been effected personally by Mystique's past actions as a mutant terrorist and nearing the end of his life, assembles a cabal of Marvel's deadliest non-mutant mercs and hitmen, and gives them a simple objective: $75 Million dollars for Mystique in a body bag. He claims that they can all operate individually, or form an alliance and split the hit; all he asks is that they murder her, and somehow are able to prove it to either him or his creepy lawyers (should he pass on before the task is completed). He even offers them each $1 million for expenses and claims if they take it, they are devoted to the job.

The group is basically an eclectic bunch I figured would be interesting, with the rule being "no mutants", as the man is a bigot who completely hates and mistrusts them. There are some A-Listers and likely mostly Z-Listers who are expendable...which is the point. Not all of them would be living. The group I had this far: Bushwhacker, Amazon, Blackout, Mongoose, Bullseye, Shotgun, Constrictor, Boomerang, Warrent, Americop, Answer, and MAYBE Foriegner and/or a Scourge. Many of them I plan to revamp and make creepier, more dangerous, and more efficient. The story is that many of them decided to become more focused on handling street-level crimes outside of NYC where most heroes are. They all have no attachment to Mystique and that is the point; many of them see her as a "challenge" and the sort of kill they could brag about. Mongoose would sort of be like a Sabretooth, only much stronger and with super-speed. But Answer, which his ability to gain any power that is "the answer" for a select situation, would be pretty potent.

Of course, the old man sent out an invite to another merc, who happened not to open that email that day because he was already on another mission; Taskmaster.

Mystique would be in the middle of an espionage mission to sabotage some company doing research she felt was anti-mutant. Taskmaster would coincidentally be stealing records from it for another company. The place, however, is rocked by explosions from some of "the cabal" sent after Mystique. The pair run into each other and breifly fight. However, the hitmen sent after Mystique have no qualms about icing anyone who seems to be "with" her, so Taskmaster quickly finds himself alongside this shapeshifter he never met.

Basically, Mystique offers to hire Taskmaster as her "bodyguard" in the official capacity, but in reality both of them are fascinated in some degree by the other. Sort of like a merc meets a merc comin' through the rye. Neither of them are superheroes; they are not merciful to many of their enemies, and the plan basically amounts to a climax where Taskmaster and Mystique are storming the building of the old man in hopes of killing him, with all his hired goons fighting them along the way. The crux of it will be Mystique being unable to believe Taskmaster is just a normal human and being puzzled by her lack of ambition (Mystique is a terrorist with an overall goal, after all; Taskmaster works for money and nothing else). Taskmaster, on the other hand, is attracted to Mystique unlike a lot of other guys she hangs with, and feels she would be happier if she "lightened up". Again, neither of them are superheroes; imagine a SIN CITY thing with two hired killers making out over a dead body; that's them. But of course in that fashion, while there is chemistry, there is also tension, as one can never be sure the other won't backstab them at the last moment.

And maybe that'd be the best way to describe this, a metahuman noir story set in the MU with two characters who, to the best of my knowledge, have never met.

Dread, this is awesome. I would love to see marvel put this out. Maybe it could work as an ongoing, I'd love to see Taskmaster and Mystique team up.
 
taskmaster said:
Dread, this is awesome. I would love to see marvel put this out. Maybe it could work as an ongoing, I'd love to see Taskmaster and Mystique team up.
The truly WEIRD thing about you noticing this idea of mine from pages ago is that I have been doing a bit of research on it in recent weeks, gathering together my "list of hit-people", many of them from the backlogs of the Appendix to the Marvel Universe site (whose moderators have been working with Marvel with their latest batch of Handbooks):

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/appchar.htm

I'm not sure on Constrictor right now but here is that "master-list", which is about some 30 names strong:

Bullseye
Bushwhacker
Shotgun
Chance
Boomerang
Man-Killer/Amazon (?)
Blackout
Foriegner (?)
The Answer
Americop (?)
Mongoose
Coldblood-7
Splice
The Scalpel
Confessor
Scourge (one of 'em, anyway)
Black Metal & Quota
Bounty-Hunter
Warrent
Deathtoll
The Disciplinarian
The Gael (?)
Goldeneye (?)
Headhunter (?)
Heat-Ray (?)
Killer Clown
Elektra (?)
Solo
Purge (?)
Coldheart
Puma (?)

The ?-marks note characters I have considered but haven't put in as a "lock", although all of these characters, many of them Z-Listers, have some sort of look, gimmick, or power that I like. For example, Splice is capable of boxing it out with Wonder Man and not dying. Disciplinarian can slow down time around himself, making others move around him in slo-mo, and he cruelly sets up quick-draw senerios that he always wins. And Deathtoll, who fought War Machine in the 90's, mystically gains another "life" with each person he kills. I could go on. The dilemma, actually, comes from the fact that it almost seems a shame to knock off so many of these guys after making them seem cool or creepy, and there are so few decent "listers" beyond Bullseye and Elektra I guess. But on the other hand, if some of these fellas don't take the ol' dirt nap in the story, it loses a lot of the grit. ;)

Glad you like the idea.
 
It makes me kind of mad that Marvel can't see the potential of a character like Taskmaster or a series like Taskmaster/Mystique. A lot of good ideas would become a reality if they stopped worrying about sales.
 
AW Taskmaster and Mystique team up.

That sounds great.

I'd really want to pick that up.
 
taskmaster said:
It makes me kind of mad that Marvel can't see the potential of a character like Taskmaster or a series like Taskmaster/Mystique. A lot of good ideas would become a reality if they stopped worrying about sales.
You mean if Marvel put out some books for the genre's sake, like DC does with Vertigo (and maybe Wildstorm even)? I agree, Marvel should do these things. Many of the angles some of us have had, especially magic or horror, are just poor sellers to the mainstream. Plus comics as a whole are selling worse than they were ten years ago.

Marvel has a fantastic universe of characters; they just need to tap out more of them at once, rather than putting so many of their eggs in one basket, like with X-Books one year or Avengers the next. They also need to realize that they can CREATE many of the best, and worst, selling titles by the amount of how much effort they put into getting the word out. Many titles die before readers even KNOW THEY EXIST; when a good 200+ comics come out in a month, if Marvel doesn't do anything to make, say, DRAX distinct from something else on the rack, then it WON'T SELL. Period. The hype doesn't even need to be positive; the word on YOUNG AVENGERS was abysmal until the first issue hit, but DAMN, did it get exposure. Everyone knew it was there. THAT is how you move comics off the shelves that don't have a built in, definate, and never-ending fanbase (like X or Spider-books).

And how could I forget the very reliable Crossbones on that list? Ah well...
 
Maybe they should put out a bi monthly Preview mag. Put about two or three pages of some of the new minis and ongoings in it. You can't count on WIzard to get the word out for everything. (Even though it has put me on to stuff I never woulda even heard about from time to time, it still doesn't do enough really.) If the books aren't selling, then at least try to find out why.
 
Anubis said:
Maybe they should put out a bi monthly Preview mag. Put about two or three pages of some of the new minis and ongoings in it. You can't count on WIzard to get the word out for everything. (Even though it has put me on to stuff I never woulda even heard about from time to time, it still doesn't do enough really.) If the books aren't selling, then at least try to find out why.
Precisely, and Marvel needs to realize that copying what worked in 1995 won't work because they can't use high sales as an excuse to continue it. Nearly every X-spinoff launched in 2004 was cancelled one after the other, from JUBILEE to NIGHTCRAWLER to NYX's lateness and so on. The X-Line is horribly stretched, won't sell books by itself anymore aside for a handful of titles, and can't support their entire universe on its back if DC steps up their game with something beyond Batman and Superman, which they certainly have this year.

How about what they did for HOWLING COMMANDOES; a 2-3 page preview in a slew of their comics, a different one every few weeks. One month it's a few pages of MTU, maybe next it is SHE-HULK or RUNAWAYS.
 

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