Any crash landing you can walk away from they say...

I've only seen the 2 dead reported on KTVU, and they claimed the plane flipped over onto its back (which is clearly not true), so I don't believe anything they say right now.

It's too soon to conclude anything, although I find it amusing that the forums on airliners.net are being overrun with people right now. Obviously that place would be full of folks who know airliners and how they're built, so people are going right to the source to get info.

Some are saying that since the debris field starts at the seawall, it's possible that the pilot came up short of the runway. -shudder-

Also, even though it's a minor quibble considering we don't know casualty numbers yet, SFO being shut down indefinitely is going to be a HUGE EFFING MESS. The only other international airports there is OAK and SJC, and they're both smaller, so I don't think they'll be able to take the overflow. They're reportedly diverting planes all over, including LAX, which is 8 hours away by car. Anyone flying to and from the Bay Area is going to have a headache in the coming weeks.

 

What's all that white stuff?

 

It's a foam that firefights use to put out jet fuel.

 

Oh, I see. Anyway, I'm glad mostly everyone got out of that.

 

Wow, working in Seoul I take that very route (and usually that airline) once or twice a year. Hope for the best.

 

2 Dead , 60 missing according to CNN.

 

That's what she said.

Missing, or injured? Because I'm pretty sure it was 60 injured.

 

Yeah the numbers keep shifting. They do report that they don't expect all the missing to be dead though. In the confusion, passengers might easily have wandered through the airport without checking in with authorities.

In the Airliners.net forums, they're pretty impressed that the fuselage stayed intact, seeing how much damage the plane sustained. And that so many people walked away relative unscathed, seeing how it stopped so suddenly. They must have been thrown around in there!

Also, they had to note an A380 was on approach and had to be diverted to OAK, which would be the very first time an A380 landed at that airport. Plane nerds...

 

It said missing , but now that number has changed. 2 Dead , 1 missing.

 

From the SFO press conference:

181 transported to hospitals out of 307 total. 49 serious, 132 were transported later after on-site triage.

123 people uninjured and in terminals.

2 dead.

1 person still unconfirmed.

 

The 777 is actually one of the best plane designs. It has a fairly incredible safety record.

I guess it's too soon to tell what the hell happened, but just thought I'd mention that.

 

If I ever escaped that, I will forever have a new outlook on life. That right there was a miracle.

 

It sounds more and more like pilot error to me. The guy's landing was too sharp and low and when he tried to correct it that's when the tail hit the sea wall and snapped off.

 

Tony Montana was a passenger on the plane.

 

Bahahaha, some official in the press conference apparently suggested that the pilot tried to skim the water to put out a fire on the bottom of the aircraft. Even though the landing gear and engines would hit before the fuselage. Yeah...I don't think so.

I wonder if he's a YouTube commenter in his free time.

The Instrument Landing System was out on that runway, so they had to do a manual approach. But with clear visibility and low wind speeds, it should have been a piece of cake for a professional pilot. Indeed, he will have things to explain.....

 

Co-pilot too. He should have intervened. They both would have had to have terrible lapses in judgement.

 

I think there was a deadly plane crash years ago where the pilot was doing stupid **** and the authoritarian culture dictated that the copilot couldn't correct him. And they killed themselves and nearly all the passengers on that plane because of it.

Oh, I found the article about it: http://blogs.wsj.com/middleseat/200...ture-cockpit-communication-and-plane-crashes/

Coincidentally, it was a Korean airline then too. (I'm Asian, this doesn't surprise me!) But they reportedly fixed the culture issue since then.

It's possible the plane was on some kind of auto-something or other and they didn't think to correct it until it was far too late.

 

Christ... they're starting to say one of the two teenaged victims on the runway didn't die from the actual plane crash, but a secondary cause, specifically getting run over by one of the rescue vehicles.

 

If they did die as a direct result of the crash, this would be the first time a 777 passenger has ever been killed.

 

Well things like this certainly help my anxiety about flying.

 

Well if you think about it, about 30,000 commercial flights happen every day. And a crash like this happens every 5 years or more, and here, only 2 people died. Seriously, watch the videos, it's amazing that the plane's fuselage stayed intact. It took such a beating. The nose bounced up a good 200 feet before it came back down. The fact that it stayed intact saved so many lives. That thing was incredibly well-built.

There are hundreds of worse car crashes that happen every day.