Any Sonny Chiba Fans On The Hype?

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  1. rodhulk Registered

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    Any of you guys/gals who are into martial art movies like Sonny Chiba? After getting a couple of movies from him lately, he's become my favorite martial arts action star. I'll be getting many more movies from him soon.

    KARATE WARRIORS is a must have if you like good martial art fight scenes and sword fighting scenes. It's now my all-time favorite martial arts movie.

    KILLING MACHINE (SHORINJI KEMPO) by Sonny Chiba is my second favorite martial arts movie that has excellent joint lock/throws in it. If you like Seagal movies, you should like the fights here.



    Movies I have so far:

    Karate Warriors
    Killing Machine (Shorinji Kempo)
    Street Fighter series (all 4 films which includes Sister Street Fighter)
    Bullet Train
     
  2. 블라스 Registered

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    HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :up:

    I own:

    Karate Warriors (yes, excellent)
    Executioners 1 and 2 (Karate Inferno)
    Defensive Power of Aikido
    Mass Oyama Trilogy (Karate Bullfighter, Karate Bearfighter, Karate for life)
    Killing Machine a.k.a Shorinji Kempo (dude, don't miss this)
    Street Fighter trilogy (and Sister Street Fighter too, even though he's not Terry there)
    Golgo 13
    Bullet Train
    The Bodyguard
    Shogun's Samurai
    Shogun's Shadow

    Sonny Chiba is the THE MAN! Great thread!
     
  3. ChickenScratch Registered

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    I became a Sonny Chiba fan because of his Mas Oyama trilogy. I've been in kyokushin karate since I was 5 and Mas is my hero so I was so excited to see movies based on him. Totally exaggerated the events of his life (Mas never faught the bear) but it's still cool to see someone playing my Grand Master on screen.
     
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    Actually, Killing Machine (Shorinji Kempo) is my second favorite martial arts film next only to Karate Warriors. I should have mentioned it above. Excellent movie, great joint locks/throws.

    Did you know he also is the star of a Japanese television samurai show called SHADOW WARRIORS from the early 80's. I'm gonna pick it up soon.

    I'm also going to be getting SHOGUN'S SAMURAI and SHOGUN'S SHADOW soon. Are they great with great fights?
     
  5. rodhulk Registered

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    As per the trilogy, is there alot of truth in it too? For example, did he enter a karate tournament and beat everybody? I'm pretty sure I read he did, but just curious because I believe the second movie is based on that tournament and I'm going to be purchasing the 3 movie box set soon (along with some other movies by Chiba)?
     
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    I would have to go back and watch them but I have Master Oyama's bio here and I remember thinking how ridiculous the movies were.

    The tournament is true though, Oyama never lost a fight in his life. I was lucky enough to be trained by Tadashi Nakamura one of Oyamas original 10 students, his personal reprisentative to spread Kyokushin Karate in the US. So I didnt train with Oyama but I did with one of his best students.
     
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    Thanks, ChickenScratch.

    I'm sure the movies will exaggerate from real facts alot. I'm happy the tournament was true, though.

    Sonny Chiba was a direct student of Mas Oyama and was his (Oyama's) favorite student (not necessarily highest rank). At least, that is what I have read. While Chiba did study and master several other styles (shorinji Kempo, Ninjutsu, Kendo/kenjutsu, etc...), Mas Oyama was his #1 mentor.

    I'll probably buy the movies in the next month or so.
     
  8. C. Lee Superherohype Administrator

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    You need to find "G.I.Samurai"......a group of modern day Japanese soldiers enter a time warp (along with a tank, helicopter, and jeeps) and wind up back a few hundred years in Japan's past.....epic battles insue.
     
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    street fighter is actually pretty cool, i got it accidentally thinking it was a tie in with the game and was presently surprised by it.
     
  10. luke1234 World Sick

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    hes awesome, and yes i am a fan but i dont have too many movies i have

    the street fighter trilogy
    and
    shoguns samurai

    oh and kill bill vol.1 if that counts

    i really need to get some more hes awesome
     
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    Go to ebay and buy 'Karate Warriors.' It should be cheap. I bought it recently for less than $5.00.... brand new/still sealed.
     
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    Yes, that's another one I'm going to get. It's available in a box set with 2 or 3 other Chiba movies. Thanks for the info, though.
     
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    Will do
     
  14. ChickenScratch Registered

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    Dude, Sonny Chiba was not Mas's favorite student, I dont even know where you would get that. He had his 10 favorite students and all were given high positions in the Kyokushin organization. His top favorites were brothers Soshu S. Oyama, and Saiko Shihan Y. Oyama. Both were so loved by Oyama that they changed their last name to his and referred to themselves as his sons. I've trained with Soshu.

    I'm sure Sonny trained with Mas but he was not a favorite, he was like any other student. If he was then he would have been given a high position in the org like the other 10. He was an actor and was not totally committed to Kyokushin, not like the others who made it their life. Not to take anything away from Sonny, he's awesome but the fact that he was not apart of Mas' inner circle and even left the organization says a lot.
     
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    I got the info from a review of the trilogy movie set of Chiba playing Oyama. Obviously with what you said, I need to check the history of Chiba a little more, however, I am kinda new to him and anything I can learn here (which I just did) will be great.

    I do know that I read from more than one source that Oyama was a mentor to Chiba (at least at one time), most likely why Chiba did a 3 movie set on Oyama's life (despite some things not being accurate). Chiba also had high repect for Doshin So of Shorinji Kempo and did a movie on Doshin as well. Though the fights are really good, I'm certain that some events (as in the Oyama trilogy), didn't happen, at least to the extent the movie (Killing Machine) showed.
     
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    There's no denying that Oyama and Chiba knew each other. You said "favorite student" though and that's where the error lies. Oyama was always very open with who he considered his favorites and his favorite were always the fighters. All 10 were held in high regard just like Oyama was when he first started spreading Kyokushin across the world by taking challenges from anyone who would and then beat them. When he got old his 10 took up the reigns, Sonny did not (he's an actor, guess he didn't want to hurt himself). He was a student never a fighter.

    Plus, if as you said you got the info from the DVD box of Sonny's movies what do you expect them to say? Of course they are gonna call him Oyama's favorite if he was or was not, it just sells better to have the master's favorite student playing him in a movie. Chiba's awesome and a good martial artist, there's no taking that away from him but being Oyama's favorite is pure marketing.

    Believe me, if he were I would know, I've been apart of the Kyokushin organization for 22 years now joining at 5 years old.
     
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    ChickenScracth: I just started Kyokushinkai a month ago and I'm loving it :D :up:

    rodhulk: Yeah, I totally need to get the Shadow Warriors Season 1 set, but then again, I could get the entire series (like 5 seasons) over on ebay, for about the same price I think.

    Yagyu Conspiracy is more of a drama, but a great film nonetheless. Fights are not abundant, but what there is, is of the highest quality. Action by Sonny's JAC. And Sonny plays Yagyu Jubei.

    Shogun's Shadow, on the other hand, is INSANE. It's a really fun action adventure, with excellent action set pieces. There's sword fighting, spear fighting, ninjitsu, gore, kung fu (monkey AND drunken), and Chiba as the bad guy. The final fight scene is incredible. Don't miss this movie. Plus, it's got a b1tchin' 80's metal soundtrack :D

    Here's the trailer:

     
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    I've just PMed you.
     
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    Right back at you :D :up:
     
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    I have the 4 The Street Fighter movies in a box set, which includes the unrated version of the first...very good flicks :o
     
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    There are two errors in your post.

    I never said I have the trilogy but that I am going to be getting it. So, I have no idea what the box set says. I only read a review of it somewhere over the internet. Not on the box set (since, as above, I don't have the set yet).

    And second, I already admitted the possible mistake in a previous post.



    As for Chiba, again, through the internet, but from more than just one reviewer, it was said that Chiba really liked Oyama and considered Oyama his mentor. But Chiba did study many styles and had other interests rather than just kyukushin karate, mainly his acting career. Remember, he devoted his career to 3 movies of Oyama. That's respect!

    As for Oyama really liking Chiba, I'm going to keep silent until I read more but I wonder if Chiba was still really liked by Oyama and perhaps this is forgotten due to certain reasons I won't write about yet since I'm not sure.

    Chiba wasn't a fighter most likely because of his movie career. I'm sure he could fight if he had to, though. As a martial artist, though, and as you agreed, Chiba was great (and IMO, the greatest on screen).
     
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    So, Chiba's a bad guy in Shogun's Shadow! That's OK, but I really like him as a good guy. I'll still get it, though, plus the other one.

    As for the series, Shadow Warrior's, I haven't found the whole 5 series set on ebay, but I'll check again, especially if it's the same price. Thanks for this info!
     
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    Good, cause the action in both movies (particularly Shogun's Shadow) is really good.

    Dude, I'm sorry...it's not available anymore, and I'll tell you why. Most likely because there's an official release for Season 1.
    I remember seeing some bootlegs on ebay, they offered the 5 seasons for like 60 dollars, but I can't seem to find them now.
    I just hope they plan to release the following seasons.
    Hey, is Sue Shiomi in the series? :huh:
     
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    As far as I know, Sue Shiomi is not in the series. Too bad because she's great as well. Plus, she stars in many of Chiba's movies.

    As for the 5 series not being on ebay, I didn't think it was as I checked and only season 1 is available. Let me know on the cheapest price (including shipping) as there's a place or two that's not on ebay that sells the first season for about $50.00 to $55.00.
     
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    I picked up The Bushido Blade today....last time I saw it was when it originally came out, so don't remember specifics about it.
     

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