Anybody Feel Jipped By these Avengers Titles??

[Shazam]

New Avengers and Avengers aaaaaaaaaaannd Secret Avengers keep opening up with these round table discussions that are rather tiresome!! Each hero having their say....ok, ok....

I just read Avengers 16 and it really pissed me off! Even after the loooong soliloquies, when the action finally started, THERE WAS NOTHING ELSE TO READ....JUST FRIKKIN' PICTURES, for the most part! Not even a narration box!!! We get a little to read at the end...BUT VERY LITTLE!

You know what this is?? This is just lazy "let's get these books out quickly" production!!

I want action and story-telling from the first page to the end! These books cost too much for them to give us less content!! Dang! When books were 25 cents, they gave us more to read than they do now!!

Am I the only one who feels this way??

If I am, so be it.

 

[Drz]

Well may i recommend checking out this particular title coming from Jonathan Hickman?

The very opening story arc deals how the US Government is getting thinner and thinner and Nick Fury just can't handle it all, you will also see how an Evil Reed Richards would handle the concept of Future Foundation, just take a look at these two pages from the link where you can see the playful drunk Tony Stark and Nick Fury that we've all come to love and cherish:

I totally feel for you guys wanting to read some quality books starring your favourite characters like Steve Rogers, Bruce Banner, Tony Stark, Nick Fury and so forth, so why not this one?

 

[runawayboulder]

Secret Avengers hasn't had the "talking head" pages. That's only been Avengers and New Avengers during the Fear Itself tie ins. What do they both have in common....? Bendis. He has a history of this lazy writing style during events - see Secret Invasion. It was 8 months of all flashback stories filling gaps for specific characters month to month. No real progress was made - it was backwards storytelling.

I've already dropped Avengers months ago and I am heavily considering dropping New Avengers. I may wait and see how the DD thing pans out. Secret Avengers I'm still on the fence about. I enjoyed the Nick Spencer issues although many did not seem to agree. I think Warren Ellis' best days are behind him but I have to admit, the upcoming solicits seem interesting.

 

[Shazam]

Secret Avengers hasn't had the "talking head" pages. That's only been Avengers and New Avengers during the Fear Itself tie ins. What do they both have in common....? Bendis. He has a history of this lazy writing style during events - see Secret Invasion. It was 8 months of all flashback stories filling gaps for specific characters month to month. No real progress was made - it was backwards storytelling.

I've already dropped Avengers months ago and I am heavily considering dropping New Avengers. I may wait and see how the DD thing pans out. Secret Avengers I'm still on the fence about. I enjoyed the Nick Spencer issues although many did not seem to agree. I think Warren Ellis' best days are behind him but I have to admit, the upcoming solicits seem interesting.

So I'm not crazy on this. This is just plain lazy! I hate to look to back of the books because I like the surprise. But With Avengers, I'm gonna start seeing if there's any content in it before I plop down 3 bucks!!

 

[Shazam]

Well may i recommend checking out this particular title coming from Jonathan Hickman?

The very opening story arc deals how the US Government is getting thinner and thinner and Nick Fury just can't handle it all, you will also see how an Evil Reed Richards would handle the concept of Future Foundation, just take a look at these two pages from the link where you can see the playful drunk Tony Stark and Nick Fury that we've all come to love and cherish:

I totally feel for you guys wanting to read some quality books starring your favourite characters like Steve Rogers, Bruce Banner, Tony Stark, Nick Fury and so forth, so why not this one?

This is the Ultimate Line right??

 

[Drz]

Yeah it is, but quality over continuity right? I mean sure you might prefer 616, but are you really wanting to pay 3 mini-series post-Fear Itself such as Battle Scars, Scattered Heroes and the Fearless alongside Bendis-Avengers just to get your Avengers stories? When you can get Jonathan Hickman's self contained story telling instead?

 

[runawayboulder]

Or you can stick to a quality book like Avengers Academy. Nice mix of old and new.

 

[Shazam]

Yeah it is, but quality over continuity right? I mean sure you might prefer 616, but are you really wanting to pay 3 mini-series post-Fear Itself such as Battle Scars, Scattered Heroes and the Fearless alongside Bendis-Avengers just to get your Avengers stories? When you can get Jonathan Hickman's self contained story telling instead?

Agreed.

 

[Lord]

Ultimate Marvel has made some of the marvel best stories during the last decade, 616 is richer but as you read 616 universe stories try to read ultimate comics too.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Or don't.

I'll second runawayboulder's Avengers Academy recommendation. Best Avengers title by far right now.

 

[THANOSRULES]

I just don't really get in to the new characters..I like Mettle thats about it

 

[bored]

"Academy" is where it's at right now. Nothing really feels like a good "Avengers" title at the moment, but it's the one that's really well-written and fun to read, at least.

 

[runawayboulder]

Gage did a great job with introducing the characters. After it's next issue, AA is going to have a nice jumping on point.

 

[WolfCypher]

I haven't bother going back to any Avengers title. I gave up on all of them almost as soon as they got going into this so-called "Heroic Age" era they were hyping up (see where that went...)

I never tried Avengers Academy. I really just wanted a "core" Avengers book. The only A-Team spinoff I've ever loved were the Young Avengers and God forbid them to have an ongoing.

 

[THANOSRULES]

I think A lot of people are just tired of Bendis Take on the avengers.

I mean the guy has been "decent" on Avengers..and Many would argue that much cred,

I personally think Bendis is/was a "legendary" Spiderman writer, but a very mixed bag on Avengers.

It's like 10 years of Avengers with Bendis, Multiple books. I think fans are just tired. I am.

 

[Dread]

I ditched Bendis' Avengers titles after SECRET INVASION, and to be honest I should have left way sooner. I'm just glad I bailed back when they still cost $2.99. I just left SECRET AVENGERS and I don't plan to look back.

AVENGERS ACADEMY is the best Avengers title on the shelves right now for me and some others. It's still $2.99, and not only has great new characters, but an enjoyable line up of founding, long time, and newer Avengers. And Speedball. It's one of few launches that will last two years, thus far.

 

[THANOSRULES]

I just have not bonded with ACADEMY..I was such a fan of A:TI so you'd think i would.

Just wasnt ready for a another relaunch of characters.

 

[Dread]

If you're a fan of AVENGERS: THE INITIATIVE, then FEAR ITSELF: YOUTH IN REVOLT should be good for you. Least for now.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

If you're a fan of AVENGERS: THE INITIATIVE, then FEAR ITSELF: YOUTH IN REVOLT should be good for you. Least for now.

Second this

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Prodigy, f*** yeah!

 

[Drz]

Comics Alliance: Spoiler free review on Ultimates #1

In short: Yeah, I think this is pretty much what everyone wanted.

So what does Jonathan Hickman give us? A new superhero comic that's half Robert Ludlum and half Jack Kirby, and something that feels like a logical escalation of the very popular work Millar and Hitch did. It's still a world where the Avengers are super-soldiers rather than super-heroes, and everything we know or recognize is a bit off, or skewed, by this military presence. There are numerous characters in this book that Hickman's written, sometimes quite extensively, in the regular Marvel Universe, but his Nick Fury here seems completely different from the one we've seen in Secret Warriors, and another character is a very deliberate, dark inversion of the one Hickman writes on a regular basis.

The attempt to marry technothriller infodump to grand, sweeping superhero majesty is no clearer than in the second and third scenes of the book. The second scene was released as a preview in the back of many Marvel titles in recent weeks, and depicts a sit-rep delivered to Nick Fury that's filled with international intrigue and reports from the President. The third scene, which is completely silent, involves a bear drinking beer and a self-replicating nanotechnological dome. Hickman makes these disaparate elements work well together by playing the goofy stuff as straight as he possibly can, as well as pacing the issue at truly breakneck speed. Fury is quickly presented with multiple new twists and problems on every page. Seemingly disconnected crises pile on with great frequency, communicating Fury's hectic schedule and mounting panic very well to the reader.


As expected, Jonathan Hickman's first issue of Ultimates is an incredibly promising start, bringing the series back to its widescreen technodrama roots while also evolving past them in a direction that feels fully logical. My only major concern is that I'm not sure how it'll work with new readers, which is a big problem with a new #1. The villain's motivation, as well as Captain America's absence, are both set up in the Ultimate Fallout miniseries and are largely enigmas in this context. Whether those factors will matter to new readers at all, I don't know; it's difficult for me to divorce this book from the context of the Ultimate Universe I've formed by reading the line for the past ten years.

Ultimates #1 hits tomorrow in stores.

 

[CConn]

I'm going to sound like an *******, but I generally feel gypped my all of the "major" Marvel titles.

Even when they're pretty good, you really need to be great to be worth 3.99 an issue.

The best Marvel titles always seem to be the ones that fly under the radar. Avengers Academy and the like.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

And those are usually $2.99 now.

 

[CConn]

Yup. It's rather ironic.

 

[Anubis]

Comics Alliance: Spoiler free review on Ultimates #1



Ultimates #1 hits tomorrow in stores.

Nobody give a s**t about the Ultimates!