Iron Fist Anyone concerned there wont be a season 2

[Daneen]

This is the first iron fist live action representation. no matter the flaws of season 1.. which lie more with the showrunner the writing the directing.. the schedule and production than the actors themselves.. the productions was rushed to the series was out in time for defenders.. finn jones said he had only 3 weeks to train for fight scenes..which is absurd.. you would need at least couple of months to prepare so i am really angry as it it is the shows fault not not giving them the time they neeed. so im hoping they realize its their fault and make sure s2 is done right.


If we only get one season because of this.. im gonna be angry... the reason it is getting hammered atm is cause they rushed it and the actors are all copping it when i isn't there fault.. if we only get 1 season... idk... ill be sorely upset.... they won't give up on it now would they when they know the people behind the show what they did wrong and give the actors another chance in a s2 to get it right and do it right... i honestly don't know the chances of a s2 i would say they are really low right now?? will marvel and netflix just give up on iron fist as a solo series? and only put him in defenders and make a spin off show.. i really hope not.

I really do hope they give it another chance and to get it right.. maybe get drew Goddard to do it so it is done right in s2... also... one of the saving graces of the show for me was colleen wing.. and also her relationship with danny.. i know allot of people will be noooo... its dany/misty but i really like their chemistry and hope to see it continue in a s2... get a good showrunner.. and for gods sake GET GOOD PEOPLE TO teach them and TRAIN THEM WELL and get a friggin awesome choreographer and make a kickass s2 if it ever happens to repair the damage done to the character of iron fist.. i dont want this to be the end of the iron fist show.

 

[psylockolussus]

I am not. Its Netflix and Marvel. They don't release the streaming numbers and they could just say to everybody that its a streaming hit when in reality, its viewer ship is as low as the last two season of Aos. Plus the show looked cheap. I doubt it cost them so much money to produce it.

 

[Daneen]

I am not. Its Netflix and Marvel. They don't release the streaming numbers and they could just say to everybody that its a streaming hit when in reality, its viewer ship is as low as the last two season of Aos. Plus the show looked cheap. I doubt it cost them so much money to produce it.

Yes well the lack of budget might be some of the reason of the flaws in the show.. and base don how it was received they might not think it is worth it to increase it.. and they know they can't put out a s2 that will be received the same way

 

[eon001]

I'd be relieved tbh. I think they will just combine Luke Cage with Iron Fist and do some kind of hybrid Heroes for Hire.

Looking back at the Iron Fist material, it really is best suited for a big budget production. Especially when you look at Matt Fractions run. Period flash backs, realizing Kun Lun and the 7 cities. Iron Fist destruction effects, CGI dragon etc.

Check out this Jet li flick "League of the Gods". Martial arts high fantasy.

Iron fist movie could be done for half the price.

 

[psylockolussus]

All of them are suited to a big budget production even Jessica Jones & Luke Cage since they have super strength ability and could face really threatening enemies just like the Hulk and Captain America.

Anyway, Netflix is limited to scale, spectacle and most importantly budget. Anyways why would they spend $100 million per season in a show where people could just binge watch the full season in 3 days by paying a monthly subscription fee which already has access to the other Netflix shows? So business wise I can see why they are being cheap to Marvel productions. But ideally, Marvel shouldn't be as cheap as these Netflix shows.

I've been saying this when Daredevil premiered. They are budget TV and it's only becoming more evident now that they have their first critical failure.

 

[Dasher10]

I'd be relieved tbh. I think they will just combine Luke Cage with Iron Fist and do some kind of hybrid Heroes for Hire.

Looking back at the Iron Fist material, it really is best suited for a big budget production. Especially when you look at Matt Fractions run. Period flash backs, realizing Kun Lun and the 7 cities. Iron Fist destruction effects, CGI dragon etc.

Check out this Jet li flick "League of the Gods". Martial arts high fantasy.

Iron fist movie could be done for half the price.

So if all $40 million went into replacing Season 2 with a TV movie, would that make you happy?

 

[psylockolussus]

I'd rather see a film that gets released in theaters. Sorry but TV movie sounds so cheap to me and there won't be much interest compare to a movie being released in theaters world wide. Also I don't think TV movies get a budget over $40 million.

Whatever happened to that time when Marvel said they were gonna try to make films with a budget lower than $100 million? They could have done that with Daredevil, Alias Investigations, Punisher, Power Man and Iron Fist.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

i'm not concerned, i would be fine if this show didn't get a season 2. i thought the show was awful

 

[legendkillin]

I rather a Heroes for Hire season. They didn't leave anything open that interest me.

 

[eon001]

So if all $40 million went into replacing Season 2 with a TV movie, would that make you happy?

Not a tv Movie. A big budget movie like in the link I posted. But right now, I think they should stay the course and try and salvage Iron Fist, by making into Heroes for hire.

All of them are suited to a big budget production even Jessica Jones & Luke Cage since they have super strength ability and could face really threatening enemies just like the Hulk and Captain America.

Jessica Jones and Luke Cage, don't have dragons, mystical cities and mass destruction glowing fists. There clearly more street level than Iron Fist.

My point is, if you haven't got the budget to do Iron Fist justice, then why bother? I just watched Super girl, and the contrast in special effects is quite astonishing when you compare the two.

There was probably more special effects in one Super girl or Flash ep than the whole of the Iron Fist season. Why are Netflix so cheap!?

They make something like $10 BILLION a year! Why are they scrimping on there most valuable properties?

We couldn't get a single full shot of a Jessica Jones super jump. CW has Supergirl flying all over the place and a CGI Captain Steel that looks as good as Colossus in DOFP.

Edit:Sorry about the rant, I should really sent that to Netflix. ;P

 

[Mike Murdock]

It's not a crazy concern. I still hope there's interest in retooling and giving a second season a shot. I feel they know there's potential if it's executed better. That being said, I don't think they'll rush to get it out again. They either have a plan or they don't make it.

Honestly, if the concern of Iron Fist is lack of vision, I think Heroes for Hire is a terrible idea. That's very much just throwing things in for lack of a better idea.

 

[metaphysician]

I think it will somewhat depend on how Defenders goes. Its not just a matter of success level, but on whether Defenders proves or doesn't prove that Finn Jones as Danny Rand can work. If he works as a character there, than as long as the IF s1 numbers aren't too dire, they'll probably renew and just try again with a different showrunner. Its only if Defenders comes along, and Finn as Danny *still* doesn't work, even with the proven showrunner, that there are problems.

( And yes, I think quality matters more to Netflix here than raw "ratings" numbers, because they play the long game. Quality content is what will keep people watching a show 5-10 years from now, and thus contributing to subscription maintenance. )

 

[Erzengel]

Just starting it now. However, maybe it's best instead to just go Heroes for Hire route instead of IF 2.

 

[kguillou]

Heres the thing we all need to realize. Despite what we disappointed fanboys may think, Iron Fist will likely have good to great numbers for Netflix. Why? Because its a new Marvel property and because of Daredevil and Jeasica Jones and Luke Cage which were all huge hits, Marvel has built a cache for itself on Netflix and despite bad reviews, Im sure tons of people tuned into IF last weekend.

Yes, its getting bad press, but so did Fuller House and Netflix renewed that for a THIRD season real quick. I think IF will eventuay get a second season and i think the numbers will be good enough that Netflix can justify it.

 

[Pokkle]

Just by being a Marvel Netflix release worldwide, it won't be hard to have the numbers.

 

[writer0327]

Heroes for Hire would be perfectly fine for me. No LC or IF second seasons. Honestly Daredevil is the only hero that needed multiple seasons. Give me a She-Hulk and Ghost Rider series for Defenders 2.

 

[Mike Murdock]

Just by being a Marvel Netflix release worldwide, it won't be hard to have the numbers.

I know Netflix took forever to announce a Jessica Jones season two and that had much more positive buzz. I still think it'll happen at some point, but I can see them slowing down on it.

I wouldn't be surprised if it went: Punisher, Jessica Jones Season Two, Luke Cage Season Two, Daredevil Season Three, and then maybe Iron Fist.

 

[Joe Von Zombie]

Marco Polo

 

[Erzengel]

I know Netflix took forever to announce a Jessica Jones season two and that had much more positive buzz. I still think it'll happen at some point, but I can see them slowing down on it.

I wouldn't be surprised if it went: Punisher, Jessica Jones Season Two, Luke Cage Season Two, Daredevil Season Three, and then maybe Iron Fist.

I think it's:

Defenders
Punisher
DD Season 3
JJ Season 2

I'd be more than happy with a Heroes for Hire Season 1.

 

[Dasher10]

The order is:

Defenders
Punisher
JJ Season 2

We know that much since Jessica Jones is confirmed to shoot back to back with Defenders

Daredevil Season 3 was announced before Luke Cage Season 2 so DD is presumably coming first.

 

[Erzengel]

Thanks.

 

[Protar]

Obviously the show is not doing well critically. I certainly wouldn't mind if they simply bought Danny in as a recurring character in future seasons of Luke Cage but I also think there was enough merit that the show deserves a second season with a new show runner and a major retool.

A retool which addresses the racial problems the show has, which isn't afraid to be lighter and more fantastical than the other netflix shows, which cuts the corporate business plot lines in the main and which makes Danny a more likeable character.

 

[Erzengel]

Honestly, is there a clamor for Luke Cage Season 2? Why not just do the HFH Season 1?

 

[Pokkle]

Honestly, is there a clamor for Luke Cage Season 2? Why not just do the HFH Season 1?

Luke Cage season 2 is already announced anyways.

 

[Pokkle]

I don't know how reliable or not is this third-party data but here it is:

The kung fu superhero show is generating higher demand than Marvel’s Daredevil or Jessica Jones did in their launch week, according to Parrot Analytics, and it’s falling just short of Luke Cage. That’s pretty good, given that Luke Cage was the 16th-hottest show across all platforms in 2016.

https://www.inverse.com/article/29370-iron-fist-popular-on-netflix