Aquaman

[batlovescatDC]

I thought I would create a thread about a movie I don't see a whole of ppl talking about.... Aquaman! It's going to happen some time. When? Who knows. But it will happen.


I personally think it would be best done in an action/comedy manner. Definitely not a spoof but done in a similar style of popular action movies that have a lot of comedy purposefully put in. I don't want a movie that makes fun of the character, but let's face it, there is no way to make an Aquaman film with a completely serious tone. Therefore, instead of making a film that gets panned by both critics and fans for trying to make a straight-out action film with a serious tone and ended up being too cheesy, I think that they should voluntarily put comedy in there.

As far as who..... I think my preferred actor for the role would be Ashton Kutcher. He obviously is very good with comedy, and also does really well with serious roles. He was good in The Butterfly Effect. He blew me away with The Guardian. I COULD NOT BELIEVE how well he did in that film, it was amazing! And he definitely has the looks/body for the character. As far as director, my choice would be Andrew Davis (The Fugitive, A Perfect Murder, The Guardian). He's done some great films and I think would have an interesting take/ideas for the film. And my writer of choice would be Steven S. DeKnight (Smallville). He's done a great job writing episodes for Smallville, and he wrote the episode "Justice", which has Aquaman in it, and had good old A.C. doing some pretty cool stuff in it, along with the other superheroes Clark Kent, Green Arrow, Cyborg, and Flash.


So what I wanna know is what your take on the film is....

How do you want the film made... as a pure action film, an action/comedy, a spoof, or do you have your own idea?

Who do you want to play the character?

Who would you choose as writer?

And also give any other ideas you have for the film (villains, promotion)

If you have any art for the film, please post it.

 

[Webhead2006]

I rather it go action film then comedy aquaman doesnt need to be shown in a comedy role again. Its hard enough for people to take the character seriously since superfriends cartoon and all that.

 

[The Major]

I thought I would create a thread about a movie I don't see a whole of ppl talking about.... Aquaman! It's going to happen some time. When? Who knows. But it will happen.

Good idea.

I personally think it would be best done in an action/comedy manner.

Why?

Definitely not a spoof but done in a similar style of popular action movies that have a lot of comedy purposefully put in.

I disagree. The best thing for Aquaman would be to be completely serious. It's time Hollywood shows the world what a bad ass he can be. No more of this comedy garbage. Super Friends has done enough damage.

I don't want a movie that makes fun of the character, but let's face it, there is no way to make an Aquaman film with a completely serious tone.

I disagree.

Therefore, instead of making a film that gets panned by both critics and fans for trying to make a straight-out action film with a serious tone and ended up being too cheesy,

They should at least try to do it seriously. The character never was intended to be a joke. If Hollywood does want to go that route there are many other DC franchises they can use like Booster Gold or the Ted Kord Blue Beetle.

It would only be to cheesy if WB doesn't hire the proper people for it. get the right people with the rights script and cast then its has a better chance to be good.

I think that they should voluntarily put comedy in there.

Which would undo what good JLU produced with the character.

As far as who..... I think my preferred actor for the role would be Ashton Kutcher. He obviously is very good with comedy, and also does really well with serious roles. He was good in The Butterfly Effect. He blew me away with The Guardian. I COULD NOT BELIEVE how well he did in that film, it was amazing! And he definitely has the looks/body for the character.

You can get other people who are much better then him for that.

Ashton would make the film a pop culture joke. The franchise is in enough trouble as it is without digging it deeper down that hole.

As far as director, my choice would be Andrew Davis (The Fugitive, A Perfect Murder, The Guardian). He's done some great films and I think would have an interesting take/ideas for the film. And my writer of choice would be Steven S. DeKnight (Smallville). He's done a great job writing episodes for Smallville, and he wrote the episode "Justice", which has Aquaman in it, and had good old A.C. doing some pretty cool stuff in it, along with the other superheroes Clark Kent, Green Arrow, Cyborg, and Flash.

My choices would be Peter Jackson, del Toro, Antoine Fuqua, Zach Snyder or Wolfgang Petersen.

So what I wanna know is what your take on the film is....

How do you want the film made... as a pure action film, an action/comedy, a spoof, or do you have your own idea?

An action movie with some intrigue thrown in.

Who do you want to play the character?

Kiefer Sutherland, Ron Perlman, Viggo Mortensen, Daniel Craig.

Who would you choose as writer?

Ron Moore from Battlestar Galactica or Tim Minear from Mutant Enemy.

And also give any other ideas you have for the film (villains, promotion)

Ocean Master. Aquaman's arch-enemy.

I'd set it up so that Aquaman is forced to confront mankind by Ocean Master in order to get Orin exiled so he can get throne himself since he's the second in line.

It'll be similar to Iron Man where Aquaman it isn't revealed until the end that OC is the bad guy and they fight.

Orm, OC, secretly uses allies on the surface world to attack Aquaman and Atlantis directly. He's also use them and others who want him to be king to get Atlantis into a war with the surface world's militaries by attacking their fleets and soft targets with heavy populations to frame Aquaman.

Events occur where in order for Atlantis to form a treaty with America he has to be replaced. Atlantis society shames Aquaman since they believe he caused those dishonorable actions so he has to leave. He travels to America to find out what went wrong. That's how he finally discovers Orm's treachery.

This would be completely serious. It would make people think but not go over their heads.

Atlantis must be a city and society which impresses the audience not played for laughs.

Aquaman himself will be a warrior king. He'll be smart though not a mastermind like Ocean Master. He'd be a good enough warrior that he could take a boatload of marines unarmed and come out of the battle without a scratch. At his best he should be destroying tanks. He would act like royalty at all times, like T'Challa in Priest's BP run.

His abilities would be awe inspiring. He'd be super-strong, swim at incredible speeds like Superman flies, his reflexes would be 100 times faster then a humans, use telepathy (to communicate with any sentient being not just fish), able to give people seizures with his telepathy, act like a king so he'd be arrogant around ordinary low ranking civilian humans who he'd consider useless peasants and a ruthless warrior people would fear getting into a fight with and be extremely durable (including grenades) like all Atlanteans since their bodies are dense enough to live on the ocean floor and super-speed/fast reflexes far beyond ordinary humans (he's 100 times better underwater). All Atlanteans would have the same abilities as himself but few are as skilled on in shape as he is with them. I'd use Peter David and Grant Morrison's JLA versions as inspirations.

This would not be typical super-hero film. Aquaman won't be stopping bank robbers. His attention will be focussed only on bigger problems dealing with either himself or Atlantis status quo. Orm won't be called Ocean master, either. The only time he'd be called that is in some random line by someone else, perhaps a minion, who talks about how he views Orm's actions in terms of "being master of the ocean" once he is crowned king. Similar to how Iron Man did it. Could do the same thing for Aquaman.

 

[cerealkiller182]

Action film taking place primarily in Atlantis. Star Wars underwater is what Marvel was calling Namor flick which they have been saying since Ang Lees Hulk. So **** them, go WB.

Unfortunately the directors Major has picked are all safe picks but too capable not to consider, especially Snyder who could probably create a fantastic Atlantis setting.

Simon Baker for Aquaman.

 

[Pluto]

Ohhh Simon Baker is spot on I think!

 

[batlovescatDC]

I completely see the point of a serious tone for Aquaman, and I agree if it can be done then it should be done. Whereas in animation (i.e. Justice League), it is very easy to transform a character into whatever you want (serious, cheesy, dark, light, etc.) it is completely different for a live-action film. I just don't know if anyone would be able to pull it off. I personally think that if someone tries to do a seriously-toned Aquaman film, the chances are more than great that it will end up being bad, and panned for having a lot of cheesiness. Maybe I am wrong, and I hope that I am. Nolan has given me a little more faith in DC adaptations with Batman Begins and The Dark Knight, but I still have yet to be shown any other directors that have really done any of the characters justice in their adaptations. Whereas the Burton Batman films were really cool, it did not do the character justice. Steel?..... I didn't even bother seeing that piece-of-s***. Batman Forever and Batman & Robin?.... do I even need to explain how horrible those films were? The only two good things about those movies combined was Jim Carrey as The Riddler was merely okay. Superman Returns is quite a disapointment. The only other live-action adaptation of a DC property in recent years besides the Nolan Batman films that hasn't been shameful is Smallville. It seems like every time they try to be serious (aside from BB and TDK of course) it ends up being campy or completely done all wrong.

 

[chamber-music]

Daniel Craig.

good pick

 

[The Major]

I completely see the point of a serious tone for Aquaman, and I agree if it can be done then it should be done. Whereas in animation (i.e. Justice League), it is very easy to transform a character into whatever you want (serious, cheesy, dark, light, etc.) it is completely different for a live-action film.

Agreed.

I just don't know if anyone would be able to pull it off.

Have you seen the Watchmen trailer? If they can get the crystal palace on the moon to look awesome in live action Aquaman should be a piece of cake.

I personally think that if someone tries to do a seriously-toned Aquaman film, the chances are more than great that it will end up being bad, and panned for having a lot of cheesiness.

All that means is that they make sure to limit the cheesiness as much as possible and if make sure whatever bleeds into the movie works for them not against it.

It will be tough but not impossible. Not with todays technology and talent. Aquaman's no worse then Superman as a concept the difference is his reputation hasn't been turned to ****. That's why it's important whoever they get to make the film has the proper talent, skills and vision to unleash its full potential.

If they don't think they can make a good serious Aquaman movie they shouldn't do it. Doing a comedy movie should not be an option under any circumstance.

They should get Pixar's assistance for the underwater scenes.

Maybe I am wrong, and I hope that I am.

You're not wrong to be skeptical.

Nolan has given me a little more faith in DC adaptations with Batman Begins and The Dark Knight, but I still have yet to be shown any other directors that have really done any of the characters justice in their adaptations. Whereas the Burton Batman films were really cool, it did not do the character justice. Steel?..... I didn't even bother seeing that piece-of-s***. Batman Forever and Batman & Robin?.... do I even need to explain how horrible those films were? The only two good things about those movies combined was Jim Carrey as The Riddler was merely okay. Superman Returns is quite a disapointment. The only other live-action adaptation of a DC property in recent years besides the Nolan Batman films that hasn't been shameful is Smallville. It seems like every time they try to be serious (aside from BB and TDK of course) it ends up being campy or completely done all wrong.

We still have yet to see what WB has learned from Nolan's films. They may have not learned anything at all!

 

[GreenLantern1]

F*** comedy. Aquaman doesn't need to continue being a joke. His character should be written like he is in Alex Ross's Justice.

Daniel Craig gets my vote for Aquaman.

 

[BLACKVULCAN]

F*** comedy. Aquaman doesn't need to continue being a joke. His character should be written like he is in Alex Ross's Justice.

Daniel Craig gets my vote for Aquaman.

i totally agree. enough with the comedy stuff. I want to see a serious toned movie and no comedy nonsense. Arthur has been dumped on enough since Superfriends. Not sure if anyone remember the old tv show" the Man from Atlantis" with Patrick Duffy. It was done serious and did well for awhile and so should Aquaman. As for Daniel Craig he would make a great Aquaman, but i dont see that happening due to his bond roles. So i would go with Simon Baker. And as for a foe for him to battle you have to go with Black Manta after all he was the one that murdered Aquaman's son

 

[Sun_Down]

let's face it, there is no way to make an Aquaman film with a completely serious tone.

********. It's that kind of thinking that nearly ruined the superhero film genre a few years back. Aquaman can and should be taken seriously. Honestly, when has Aquaman EVER been portrayed as funny in comics cannon?

Aquaman should be done in a LOTR-style fantasy-action piece. Between the potentially awesome underwater visuals and the heaps of dramatic situations that arise from Arthur's position (pollution, animal rights, the very sovreignty of nations, the nature of monarchy, etc.), why chicken out and make a piece of crap with Ashton Kutcher?

 

[TheBatman1979]

I completely see the point of a serious tone for Aquaman, and I agree if it can be done then it should be done. Whereas in animation (i.e. Justice League), it is very easy to transform a character into whatever you want (serious, cheesy, dark, light, etc.) it is completely different for a live-action film. I just don't know if anyone would be able to pull it off. I personally think that if someone tries to do a seriously-toned Aquaman film, the chances are more than great that it will end up being bad, and panned for having a lot of cheesiness. Maybe I am wrong, and I hope that I am. Nolan has given me a little more faith in DC adaptations with Batman Begins and The Dark Knight, but I still have yet to be shown any other directors that have really done any of the characters justice in their adaptations. Whereas the Burton Batman films were really cool, it did not do the character justice. Steel?..... I didn't even bother seeing that piece-of-s***. Batman Forever and Batman & Robin?.... do I even need to explain how horrible those films were? The only two good things about those movies combined was Jim Carrey as The Riddler was merely okay. Superman Returns is quite a disapointment. The only other live-action adaptation of a DC property in recent years besides the Nolan Batman films that hasn't been shameful is Smallville. It seems like every time they try to be serious (aside from BB and TDK of course) it ends up being campy or completely done all wrong.

It's funny that you say that, because I've been writing a serious sci-fi/fantasy Aquaman movie script for a month now. If you actually read the characters history it's not that hard to see how a serious tone can be taken and done correctly with the character.

 

[GreenLantern1]

I just hope its the classic version of Aquaman or at least the water hand version. I hate the long hair, beard, hook Aquaman.


This is how he should be...

This scene needs to be in the movie..

 

[cerealkiller182]

I like the new suit, but it has to be the real Aquaman

But I also liked the 2003 series version but add orange chainmail shirt and sans water bearer hand (maybe a sequel but not in the first movie) I especially like the shorter hair and beard look

 

[Metamorpho1977]

Aquaman is one of my favorite DC heroes. Vastly underrated thanks to the damn Superfriends. He could have an awesomely epic film if Warner brothers would let him. I like Daniel Craig or Simon Baker. As for villains, Ocean Master and Black Manta Denzel Washington as Black Manta.

 

[JokerLedger]

My vision for Aquaman on film would be him with dreads in a ponytail complete with beard.

 

[Metamorpho1977]

even the Joker from DC comics wouldn't wish that on Aquaman.

 

[trustyside-kick]

Aquaman is like Thor and Wonder Woman...you cannot treat the film like it is a superhero movie. These kind of characters draw heavily from mythology and old folklore. They are swimming in it: Aquaman quite literally.

Premise of the Film:
With Aquaman, yes have Ocean Master be the villain...but have Triton and Poseidon being what drives Orm. Poseidon and Triton's own hatred for Aquaman as his people and the creatures of the see viewing him as their Guardian instead of the omnipotent Ancient Gods would be the motive. In Greek Mythology, and in DC Comics, the Gods of Greece are always depicted as having bad qualities like this. They should embrace that for an Aquaman movie.

They can use Ocean Master as their pawn, seeing as how he is the half-brother of Aquaman and by that right, is technically also a possible heir to the throne. They can use Orm to overthrow Aquaman with their own mischeavous plan, just to ruin Aquaman's rep with the Undersea Realm. Obviously, this can be changed and tweaked...but idea is to humilate Aquaman and have Orm be crowned King: but as the Old Gods' pawn. Heck, they can be the ones who give Orm his magical abilities. Orm HAS to use his magic at one point of this film to show just how much of a threat he alone is.

Ocean Master's willing to go through with the plan, would be obvious as he is jealous of his brother. Poseidon and Triton can be the ones who tell Orm of his Atlantean heritage. But Orm Marius of course would be but a tool, and the grande villains of the movie would be Triton and Poseidon. Then can throw in the fight between Triton and Orin at the end as it was done similarly in the comics, and once Orin defeats Poseidon's son, Poseidon would see something different in Aquaman: deeming him worthy as the Guardian of the Underwater Realm.

Then, he would regain Atlantis, and the end of the film would show Aquaman saving some huge ship, showing his tremendous strength again (as it would be made obvious earlier in the movie) by hauling the ship by himself by its anchor. The sailors would all go over the edge of the ship, and spot Aquaman in the water.

Thus, that would allow for the next film to be more geared towards his life with the Surface World. DC needs to show how cool it is to dwell in the underwater realm in the first film to allow people to discover a greater respect for Aquaman. Which would be an obvious lead for Black Manta to appear in the second film.

Actors:
Gerard Butler as Aquaman
Sean Bean as Ocean Master
Tony Curran as Triton
Bill Nighy as Poseidon

 

[protocida]

''Aquaman'' would be a action movie with great visual effects and a good plot. I Would center in on Arthur's return to Atlantis to relive the city, destroyed by a civil war. The villains would be Black Manta and Sharkman.

 

[cerealkiller182]

It should be a lot like the episode of Justice League he was in.

Arthur is King of Atlantis. Orm, his brother leads a revolt. Send a bunch of US troops into Atlantis because Arthur has been attacking boats on the surfarce for allegedly polluting the water. The US troops, specifcally one member of the troops, works much like Han solo in Star Wars, he is the American identity that serves as the audiences vessel into the Atlantis culture.

 

[batlovescatDC]

From the sounds of this GL script, with the few reviews I've read for it.... I'm beginning to get a little bit more faith in WB/DC. If it's true what they say the GL script sounds kick-as*.

 

[Pluto]

There's something Fableish or storybookish about Aquaman. I love it!

 

[Hellstormer]

I would love a movie set in Sub Diego. I'd like to see it somewhere during his career with a minimal career in flashbacks. The beginning could have Orin getting kicked out of Atlantis and than Sub Diego falling because of his brother Ocean Master. Everything vital would be explained in flashbacks. But this scene MUST be in the movie.

He can be played as a total joke before this, but the minute he lifts that road and saves those people I want everything in the audience to just think "Holy *****, this is the guy from Superfriends!?"

O and definitely action movie.