Arrow Arrow General Discussion Thread - Part 5

Hearing Felcity say at the beginning that Ollie could do more good in the city was awesome.

I'd like to see Ollie get political, maybe running for mayor. I always thought that was a neat angle that the comics took in OYL.

 

Yes, this is true...very true.

Yeah, but even still it's not like the actors themselves that have been introduced one or two episodes and then disappeared until later are that memorable. I mean their characters are more important and so if the actors get replaced it's no big whoop. However, given the talent and names introduced so far, I'm guessing they will more than likely be available. This is the CW after all and the actors attached to the show aren't necessarily big names.

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Yes, I agree. However, I don't think we have ever seen characters introduced so quickly that fans are familiar with, at least not to my knowledge.

 

I could see that happening down the line. Maybe season 3

 

does everyone have me on ignore?

 

Hi...now what do you want? lol

 

Au contraire. I'd actually say it's a bigger risk because it's a CW show; the reason being that the CW has a tendency of reusing its actors for new shows. For instance, Stephen Amell (Oliver) had small roles in The Vampire Diaries and 90210 (the former probably putting him on their radar as a possible lead in an action series) prior to Arrow. Likewise, Willa Holland (Thea) is a Gossip Girl alumnus. As is Katie Cassidy (Laurel), who was also on Melrose Place.

Had their previous shows still been in production, I'd reckon their regular status and Arrow's filming schedule might make slotting in (guest) appearances for meaningful arcs in their old shows slightly trickier.

I dunno... I think it would too radically change the premise/concept of the show and to be frank, it doesn't sound all too interesting an idea. Perhaps one of the other characters. Just not Oliver/the lead protagonist.

 

It doesn't change the premise of the show because it's about Oliver cleaning up the city. Maybe he decides to take another, more public approach and running for mayor fits in with that.

 

We've already seen a small shift in the premise of the show. It's not a name-a-week from the book anymore. The book is still a large part of the plot, but there's plenty of the regular stopping crime superhero dynamic now, too.

Ollie running for mayor would just be another step in that direction. It couldn't happen for at least a few seasons, but I hope the writers don't rule it out completely.

 

Yeah, one reason I like it because it separates him from Batman more, and it shows that he gave government and law a shot. Once he realizes being a mayor isn't enough, it gives him more reason to go outside the law.

 

Now you're talking about "what ifs." Either way even if the actors did go on to have starring roles in other CW shows or came from shows where they had bigger or smaller roles it is still the CW and most if not all productions are shot in California. I'm sure they would either make it work or go with other actors not committed to shows.

 

I suppose. But then again, wasn't that the whole point of this conversation - hypothetical situations? The base point is that a fast rotation of guest characters/cast members restricts the show's future flexibility as it's tied to said actors' availability.

On a personal note, I'm not a fan of re-casting and see it as only something as an option of last resort. Push come to shove, my view is that it's better to just not use the character in question where possible, saving said character for when the actor is available again, and not doing a permanent change/action for what is essentially a temporary problem.

 

I agree with this somewhat. However, show runners aren't going to halt stories just because an actor isn't available, especially actors that are doing bit parts. If an actor gets more work after they just did a part on the show good for them, but it would be in their interest to return as a character because that is how they can grow their fan base and name. If they select not to and the part goes to another actor then they risk the chance of growing that character and becoming better known.

Plus I think its in the show's best interest to bring in as many characters and make the stories as interesting as they can rather than just bring in a few characters and risk not getting picked up, or drawn out plots that can be resolved in 1 or 2 episodes rather than a whole season.

My vote is to give me the characters when they fit the story and deal with actor changes if/when they arise.

 

man I've been slacking. haven't watched the last two episodes but I have them downloaded. need to catch up

 

I'm kinda thinking Arrow has enough going on right now. This season I hope they just expand on what they already have rather than bring in too many new things.

I like the idea of him becoming a liberal politician but right now he's supposed to be a nightclub owner, with a nightclub that only seems to open on special ocassions, get that storyline up and running properly first. Roy Harper needs to be a slow build rather than next week Red Arrow. Dinah and Merlyn need to advance to what they're going to be, and we have the undertaking, plus a slew of villains who are still alive. Walter is missing. Then they have a lot still to tell on the island, Yao Fei, Shado, Deathstroke etc. And I probably missed a whole lot of other stuff, Laurel's dad, the police informant etc etc. There are lots of threads out there that need tying up preferably this season before they move on to more.

In all honesty, right now, Arrow has enough for the rest of the season. Now they know they are getting renewed, there's no point cramming too much in too soon.

Also, I don't ever want to see Shado "rape" Oli or Roy Harper become a drug addict. Those things may work in a comic, but not here. Once it starts to get too out there, I'd probably move on.

 

I thought the night club got blown up?

 

It got damaged. But not destroyed.

 

If I remember,you were asking where did the producers say they had a 5 year plan for the show?I remember hearing it too,but I have no idea where.

 

Further giving Oliver an excuse to continue construction on the club and to not open it. Would be hilarious if they made the destruction/damage to the club each time it's used a running gag on the show.

 

http://io9.com/5987370/dcs-geoff-johns-reveals-if-arrow-will-ever-fire-the-boxing-glove-arrow

 

thanks!

 

Holy. Sh**. This episodes is awesome.

 

was that a deadman reference?

 

OH MY GOD!!! What is going on!!!