ASM #539 Preview

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It's only taken about forever and a day to come out, but at least it looks pretty good. Spoilers ahead:

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=103175

- First and foremost, Garney's art looks ****ing amazing. I'm very glad he's working on Spider-Man right now.
- Peter throwing a Jeep at the would-be assassin = awesome.
- The Kingpin being a smug bastard in jail = awesome.
- Peter kicking thugs' asses out of costume = awesome.

Actually, pretty much the only thing I don't like about the preview is the fact that Peter's using webs without webshooters, which reminded me that organic webbing is now an official canon thing after I tried so hard to forget. :( But, really, that's so minor at this point that I can overlook it. I'm actually looking forward to a Spider-Man issue again. :up:
 
I can't even give up a book when I want to.:mad::(
 
I know I should stay for the conclusion, but after CW seems the time to duck out of ASM again, especially as this is the second time in 15 years that Aunt May has died. What? I know she only got shot last issue, but why the heck would he be "in mourning" if the old bird didn't die? Last time was poignant, this time was violent & ugly, the way comic book deaths have become (just look at Sue Dibney or Spoiler).
 
Yeah right. By now its really obvious that the whole black suit is a movie tie in. Theres no change in personality at all and since May isnt kicking the bucket in SM3, shes not dying for the third time now.
 
well, it's official.

ron garney has made it into my top 5 spider-man artists of all time.
 
I know I should stay for the conclusion, but after CW seems the time to duck out of ASM again, especially as this is the second time in 15 years that Aunt May has died. What? I know she only got shot last issue, but why the heck would he be "in mourning" if the old bird didn't die?
Maybe she gets arrested. She did aid and abed a non-registered hero.
 
This looks good. Ron Garney, as some have already said, has some great looking art right there.
 
Corp, I got a telegram for you :D

Hey *stop*

People have stopped complaining about the organic webbing *stop*

Hope you can still enjoy the book *stop*

You're still my boy *stop*
 
Yeah, I like Garney's ASM work too, but mostly because his Spidey reminds me a lot of JRJr's. I likes me the slender Spidey
 
Maybe HE kills someone.

ANOTHER plot-point that has been attempted with Spider-Man that either has gone nowhere and/or was mishandled. Of course, Spider-Man is a hero who believes in the protection of every human life, even the lives of criminals. He's battled to prevent Carnage from being murdered by Venom, for instance (although he's been mum about Sentry icing Carnage, conviently, but it's NEW AVENGERS; since when does Bendis get him right?). However, there are those rare stories, much like the Superman-Phantom Zone Criminals story, that attempt to answer the question of what it may take to have Spidey take a life, and how he'd react. Both times, it's been botched.

The first time was in the 80's, in the SPIDER-MAN VS. WOLVERINE one-shot, a dark story that saw Ned Leeds assassinated and Spider-Man accidentally killing a suicidal agent woman after she fooled him into believing she was Wolverine (he'd just battled Logan in a vicious fight and blindly reacted to his "spider-sense" with a full force punch, killing her instantly). Aside for some remourse on the plane ride home, Spider-Man never mentioned or reacted to this incident again, which you'd imagine would have had long repurcussions (especially as he now is on a team with Wolverine and battles along side him as often as Superman does with Batman). The other was in the late 90's during the REVELATIONS crossover that saw the death of Ben Rielly and the return of Osborn, who became the reason for every rotten thing and unresolved storyline that existed. In the end Spider-Man throws Gobby off a rooftop with a sack full of lit pumpkin bombs and makes no attempt to save him; an outright attempted murder. Even WIZARD, before they became a complete shill for the Big Two, questioned this. After the murder of Rielly, who was like an adopted brother to Peter, an angry reaction was not OOC, but the prospect of Spidey attempting to kill Norman Osborn was never tackled directly, no angst or requestioning of morals, nothing.

If you are going to have stories that have a character act "out of character", it CAN work, if you build it up and have appropriate follow-through. However, Marvel and sometimes DC at the moment only care about "the moment", seeing build-up and follow through as inconviences at best.

This was of course before THE OTHER when Spider-Man turns into a monster and eats Morlun's face. So if JMS is planning to perhaps bring up this spectre of a story again, do I have faith it would be handled well? No. And I don't feel that lack of faith at this point is illogical. I could be wrong, but I think my lack of faith is justified, especially after several years of "big event" stories with Spidey that never are followed through, never breath, and just take away from what made him work in the first place.

Yeah right. By now its really obvious that the whole black suit is a movie tie in. Theres no change in personality at all and since May isnt kicking the bucket in SM3, shes not dying for the third time now.

May's kicked the bucket before, and Marvel's never found an idea not worth repeating, good or bad. I also recall when Peter & MJ were doing an awkward "trial seperation" even into the start of JMS' run until 2002's SPIDER-MAN came a callin' and all of a sudden they were a couple again. Joe Q was in power then and since he hates their marriage more than global terrorism, he could have nixed it then, but apparently sought to tie into the film. That is part of why seeing him harp about it now is almost comical.

You're right, it is just another shameless movie tie-in (as well as all the Sandman stories of a sudden) that both Marvel and DC have tended to do. It NEVER brings in new readers and just confounds the loyals who buy books flick or no flick.

Maybe she gets arrested. She did aid and abed a non-registered hero.

Reasonable, especially as JMS is one of those writers who was slow to the memo of "don't make the pro SHRA look too evil", having Iron Man all but brag that his N-Zone prison was "a boot stepping on someone's face, forever" (okay, that was 1984, but his actual statements were close). But I don't see that having the sort of shock value that Marvel lusts for.

Maybe I'm taking Marvel too literally about the "mourning" thing as, like others have said, Spidey still seems the same in the black suit in other books. Granted, even if he was mourning, it's not OOC for Spidey to wisecrack...
 
Sick, I know, but I really wanna see a scan of Spidey killing that lady he punched in the face. That sounds hella awesome.
 
I know I should stay for the conclusion, but after CW seems the time to duck out of ASM again, especially as this is the second time in 15 years that Aunt May has died. What? I know she only got shot last issue, but why the heck would he be "in mourning" if the old bird didn't die? Last time was poignant, this time was violent & ugly, the way comic book deaths have become (just look at Sue Dibney or Spoiler).

Because being shot is the same thing as being raped and then later on being torched to death, and being tortured to death with your dad's old tool set.

ITS THE SAME EXACT THING!

:whatever: :whatever: :whatever: :whatever: :whatever: :whatever:
 
You know, I never knew exactly how Sue died. That sux, now I see why Ralph was so torn up in 52 :(
 
You know, I never knew exactly how Sue died. That sux, now I see why Ralph was so torn up in 52 :(

Everything was right except the tools set thing. And he forgot to say that someone using one of the Atom's old suits goes into your brain and gives you a massive aneurysm and THEN torches you and your unborn child.:o
 
Everything was right except the tools set thing. And he forgot to say that someone using one of the Atom's old suits goes into your brain and gives you a massive aneurysm and THEN torches you and your unborn child.:o

The tools set was in reference to Spoiler.:huh:

And I forgot the aneurysm part.
 
The tools set was in reference to Spoiler.:huh:

And I forgot the aneurysm part.

I know, I was just making it clearer for Colossal. And sadder. I wanted to see if he'd cry like Cap.:(
 
I'm just wondering whether or not that jeep actually hits the guy. Pete doesn't seem so concerned about his life when he tosses that thing through the window and even then he's not even sure if the guy has powers that would allow him to withstand it. So, I still think he might wind up accidentally killing someone. You know, just like he accidentally hit MJ?
 
I know, I was just making it clearer for Colossal. And sadder. I wanted to see if he'd cry like Cap.:(

I see. I just found it funny that Dread would actually compare this "death" to those other two deaths. Talk about ****ing ridiculous.
 

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