Assassin's Creed - Part 1

[-JKR-]

Yeah but the past is what everyone likes. Even if it is just a plot device it's the draw to this whole universe

Hell I think you couldve made a movie with just the past stuff and it couldve been a success. Not saying that's where they should go I'm just saying. Again, like The Matrix, what is the draw of The Matrix? It's going into the Matrix and seeing all the crazy stuff in there

Yeah, but even in The Matrix. You spend a lot of time in the real world. It's very well balanced in the first movie. It's too much of the crazy stuff in the sequels (overly long slow-mo/wire-fu/bullet time fight scenes).

I think you're reading too much into that 65/35% statement, thinking that we'll just get glimpses at the past stuff.

The only thing I'm a little wary about is keeping the past scenes in Spanish. I'm not a fan of subtitles, so we'll see how that will work out. John McTiernan handled the foreign language amazingly with a very simple, yet genius device in Hunt for Red October.

We'll see. People need to have more trust in talent. Justin Kurzel is a talented filmmaker, let's not forget that.

 

[MadVillainy]

Yeah, but even in The Matrix. You spend a lot of time in the real world. It's very well balanced in the first movie. It's too much of the crazy stuff in the sequels (overly long slow-mo/wire-fu/bullet time fight scenes).

I think you're reading too much into that 65/35% statement, thinking that we'll just get glimpses at the past stuff.

The only thing I'm a little wary about is keeping the past scenes in Spanish. I'm not a fan of subtitles, so we'll see how that will work out. John McTiernan handled the foreign language amazingly with a very simple, yet genius device in Hunt for Red October.

We'll see. People need to have more trust in talent. Justin Kurzel is a talented filmmaker, let's not forget that.

I never said we'll just get glimpses of the past stuff.

Im saying the past stuff is what people want. Give the people what they want.

 

[-JKR-]

I never said we'll just get glimpses of the past stuff.

Im saying the past stuff is what people want. Give the people what they want.

Could we at least wait to see how it all works out in the movie, story-wise?

Why are we already jumping to conclusions that what they've got in the movie isn't what people want to see?

Let's be a little more open-minded to see how that 65/35 ratio works out in the narrative.

I remember people being worried about Deadpool seemingly taking place mostly on the highway. And the movie does stay there for quite a while, but the way it's broken up and plays in the end is wonderful, and the movie doesn't feel like thatìs what it's all about. At all. There's much more to it.

 

[Paradox1]

well for people worried about that ratio. this is the origin movie. That 65/35 ratio represents setting up the world,history along with the animus. Then of course part of the final act probably takes place in the present day.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

I doubt that. The story of the present day does not complete with the origin. It's ongoing. In the sequel (if they have one) they will likely have the same ratio of present/past.

 

[Paradox1]

I doubt that. The story of the present day does not complete with the origin. It's ongoing. In the sequel (if they have one) they will likely have the same ratio of present/past.

There has to be an arc for Fassbender's character where he accepts the assassin mantle.

 

[BlueLanternKal]

Smart move. Desmond is the most boring character in the series, other than the nameless, voiceless guys you play in games like Black Flag. I'd take Connor any day over Desmond. I wouldn't even have bothered with AC3, if it was entirely set in the present. Too much of that game was set in the present as it was.

Whatever you say. Altaïr's stoic ass has more charm in his missing middle finger than Conner has in his whole body. Don't even bring up Ezio and Edward. LOL

Conner is lame AF. It's a real shame because there aren't many Native American characters in big franchises like this. Even Arno was a better character, his game suffered from bugs and a story that tried it's hardest to ignore the time period.

And Desmond was the main character of the first trilogy. Notice how the games have progressively spiraled to **** after his death.

 

[-JKR-]

Exactly.

I'd expect the first part of the movie to be mostly about Fassbender's character getting out of prison and being introduced to Animus.

 

[MadVillainy]

Could we at least wait to see how it all works out in the movie, story-wise?

Why are we already jumping to conclusions that what they've got in the movie isn't what people want to see?

Let's be a little more open-minded to see how that 65/35 ratio works out in the narrative.

I remember people being worried about Deadpool seemingly taking place mostly on the highway. And the movie does stay there for quite a while, but the way it's broken up and plays in the end is wonderful, and the movie doesn't feel like thatìs what it's all about. At all. There's much more to it.

All of what I'm saying is speculation. That's what youre going to a movie before it's released.

I even said "But we havent seen the quality of AC yet. So it's still up in the air." What more should I say? I'm not saying the movie is gonna suck or anything of the sort. Should I just not say anything about the movie if it's negative? I'm just playing the speculation game like everyone else does pre-release

 

[TheVileOne]

I'm fully prepared to see the movie and let it prove my feelings and predictions wrong.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Whatever you say. Altaïr's stoic ass has more charm in his missing middle finger than Conner has in his whole body. Don't even bring up Ezio and Edward. LOL

Conner is lame AF. It's a real shame because there aren't many Native American characters in big franchises like this. Even Arno was a better character, his game suffered from bugs and a story that tried it's hardest to ignore the time period.

And Desmond was the main character of the first trilogy. Notice how the games have progressively spiraled to **** after his death.

Black Flag and Rogue were arguably the best games in the entire series and Desmond was dead in them.

As for Connor, while he's not as good as Edward or Ezio, I do like his story as a tragic figure. He is overly obsessed with revenge, despite not knowing the whole truth and it ends up destroying his own people that he was trying to protect.

Haytham is my favorite character in the series, and he also made his debut in AC3.

 

[LoganGambit87]

Whatever you say. Altaïr's stoic ass has more charm in his missing middle finger than Conner has in his whole body. Don't even bring up Ezio and Edward. LOL

Conner is lame AF. It's a real shame because there aren't many Native American characters in big franchises like this. Even Arno was a better character, his game suffered from bugs and a story that tried it's hardest to ignore the time period.

And Desmond was the main character of the first trilogy. Notice how the games have progressively spiraled to **** after his death.

pretty sure ezio is far more beloved than Altair its why he has the most games

 

[BlueLanternKal]

pretty sure ezio is far more beloved than Altair its why he has the most games

When did I say he wasn't? I was comparing Altaïr to Conner.

 

[BlueLanternKal]

Black Flag and Rogue were arguably the best games in the entire series and Desmond was dead in them.

Depends on who's making the argument now doesn't it. One thing is absolutely clear. Since AC3 the series has been utterly aimless and directionless.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Okay. I think Black Flag and Rogue are two of the best three games of the series (the other being Brotherhood). Happy?

 

[BlueLanternKal]

Okay. I think Black Flag and Rogue are two of the best three games of the series (the other being Brotherhood). Happy?

Rogue was meh, Black Flag was cool despite the modern day story being ****.

Those games were great mainly because of the upgrades made to gameplay. But without the modern day aspect the games aren't really going anywhere. Do you disagree?

Desmond may have not been the best character, but without him the past stuff doesn't really feel important.

Look at the sales figures of the last 4 games. Tell me I'm lying. A modern day story and protagonist is what makes the stuff that happened in the past important instead of a virtual travel guide with ninjas.

 

[Paradox1]

I think ACII had the best story, and brotherhood the best gameplay. The black flag sailing was good but not much different from ACIII beside the shanti.

 

[BestGirl]

well for people worried about that ratio. this is the origin movie. That 65/35 ratio represents setting up the world,history along with the animus. Then of course part of the final act probably takes place in the present day.

This movie is by no means guaranteed to get a sequel. It would be irritating if they were holding back on the best part of the games so they'd have material for future films that never occur.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Those games were great mainly because of the upgrades made to gameplay. But without the modern day aspect the games aren't really going anywhere. Do you disagree?
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I never had any interest in the modern day stuff starting with the very first game. I just wish there was a way to skip it. I'd be happier if they just dropped it completely from the games and had the entire game take place inside the animus.

 

[Paradox1]

This movie is by no means guaranteed to get a sequel. It would be irritating if they were holding back on the best part of the games so they'd have material for future films that never occur.

I'm not saying they are saving the past for a sequel. I am saying they have to introduce movie audiences to what Assassin Creed is. They do not need to reveal everything. However they have to set the Assassin/ Templar conflict, this new technology that allows you to live past events. As well as introduce you to Fassbender's character, his problem, allies, and enemies. That's a lot of set up, that's going chew up most of the first act.

 

[BlueLanternKal]

ليس هناك ما هو صحيح، فكل شيء مباح

 

[KillerMcQueen]

I never had any interest in the modern day stuff starting with the very first game. I just wish there was a way to skip it. I'd be happier if they just dropped it completely from the games and had the entire game take place inside the animus.

Pretty much my thoughts as well, the modern day stuff never interested me much, I just kept wanting to get back to the animus, the series has never needed the modern day story, it was interesting in the first game, but after that it just felt like an unwanted detour from the meat of the game, I just wanted to get back to playing as Edward, Ezio, Connor, etc.

 

[Neno_Kos]

I think this will be just as Matrix. We will experience bit and pieces of "Matrix" but storyline will focus on modern day. I wouldnt worry too much about percentages.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Yeah, but even in The Matrix. You spend a lot of time in the real world. It's very well balanced in the first movie. It's too much of the crazy stuff in the sequels (overly long slow-mo/wire-fu/bullet time fight scenes).

I think you're reading too much into that 65/35% statement, thinking that we'll just get glimpses at the past stuff.

The only thing I'm a little wary about is keeping the past scenes in Spanish. I'm not a fan of subtitles, so we'll see how that will work out. John McTiernan handled the foreign language amazingly with a very simple, yet genius device in Hunt for Red October.

We'll see. People need to have more trust in talent. Justin Kurzel is a talented filmmaker, let's not forget that.

So is Duncan Jones and according to most he didn't make a video game movie work. I haven't seen Warcraft so I'm not personally judging it. I'm just saying that it wasn't the Superman: The Movie video game movie that people wanted to be, it wasn't the movie to make people look at video games as a super viable thing to adapt into a film like comic books.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

I think this will be just as Matrix. We will experience bit and pieces of "Matrix" but storyline will focus on modern day. I wouldnt worry too much about percentages.

Wut? The Matrix had a healthy balance.