maveholic31
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So my friends and I talk about superhero films a lot since I'm a huge DC/Batman fan and they happen to like the flashy Marvel brand. Well, we happen to talk about all the different Batmans portrayed since 89' and we come with a peaceful solution... how about assigning each Batman to an Earth (in comic terms) and I ask you to help dissect each to assign them to their comic counterparts.
Here were our deductions so far as we made similarities to the film's hero and its comic form..
Batman (89) and Returns - Michael Keaton plays Bruce Wayne/Batman comic counterpart -> Earth two Batman
Why: We felt most importantly the timeline was too similar to pass up as the Earth two bats was born in 1915 and raised in an early era of Gotham and in the Burton film it's clear with the cars and wardrobes of the general public that it was indeed a early 20th century setting (specifically comments made by Anton Furst). In Earth two Joe Chill was the murderer of the Wayne family, but in Earth -2 the Joker was responsible as was the Joker in the 89 film. Some fans had issues with this Batman in the Burton films for two things Bruce Wayne would never do: drink or kill. Well, the Earth two Wayne has been seen numerous times doing reckless things in public such as smoking and drinking wine, but to further conceal his image as a party hard playboy. And about murder, Batman had a gun concealed just in case he ever had to use it when he had no other choice and have used it before being joined by Robin in his fight against crime. The only difference of costume was the yellow insignia which was given to Earth one Batman, but other aspects of personality and traits are remarkably similar to the Burton films. Let's not forget, the lack of partnership with Jim Gordon translated into the big screen where in both 89' and Returns Gordon is barely a noticeable factor.
Batman Forever - portrayed by Val Kilmer
comic counterpart -> Earth one Batman
Why: The origin is more similar to the Earth two story as Wayne did not have an older brother in the film like he did in Earth one, but his motivations and personality blend well together in Forever as he did in the Earth one stories. This doen't really matter because the origin is viewed largely in flashbacks of the murders and is vague on Wayne's past. In Earth one Wayne adopted the codename of 'Robin' before he ever put on the cape and cowl as the bat and only when meeting Dick Grayson would he take off the name permanently and replace it with the true name of Batman. The costume is very similar to what Kilmer wears during his stint as Batman down to the yellow oval on the chest. Wayne's depiction in Earth one as a lighthearted Bruce Wayne and stern Batman fits Kilmer's portrayal perfectly.
Batman & Robin - portrayed by George Clooney
comic counterpart -> ???
... my friends and I decided this ghastly portrayal of Batman fit no other Batman in the comics. Even Earth -31 Batman was easier to take then this goofy depiction of the caped crusader.
Batman Begins/The Dark Knight - portrayed by Christian Bale
comic counterpart -> New Earth Batman
Why: With stories adapted from Year One, The Man who Falls, and The Long Halloween, there is no question that Christian Bale's Bruce Wayne/Batman is modeled after the New Earth Dark Knight. Just as in the Man who Falls story it was Henri Ducard who had shown Wayne what he truly was capable of by frightening criminals into submission and not just a martial artist as depicted in the Earth one and two Batmans, Bale's Batman is knowledged as having numerous fighting skills just like the New Earth model. The return to Gotham, discoveries of the caves, close relationship with Alfred, and operating primarily at night as the masked avenger... Bale's Batman brings many similarities to New Earth.
Other similar aspects - Finances Lucious Fox as head of business at Wayne Enterprises and confides in Fox to keep Wayne up to date with the latest gadgets. The facade of Bruce Wayne being a playboy and the Batman being the "true" man. The stony raspy bass voice both aquire when masked. Other than Bats, other characters such as the Joker, Gordon, Dent, Ra's Al Ghul, scarecrow largely resemble their New Earth counterparts (though The Joker has been pieced throughout several Earth depictions). Of all things considered the relationship of Gordon and Batman remains most faithful to New Earth and is the closest resemblance seen in films.
... your thoughts?
Here were our deductions so far as we made similarities to the film's hero and its comic form..
Batman (89) and Returns - Michael Keaton plays Bruce Wayne/Batman comic counterpart -> Earth two Batman
Why: We felt most importantly the timeline was too similar to pass up as the Earth two bats was born in 1915 and raised in an early era of Gotham and in the Burton film it's clear with the cars and wardrobes of the general public that it was indeed a early 20th century setting (specifically comments made by Anton Furst). In Earth two Joe Chill was the murderer of the Wayne family, but in Earth -2 the Joker was responsible as was the Joker in the 89 film. Some fans had issues with this Batman in the Burton films for two things Bruce Wayne would never do: drink or kill. Well, the Earth two Wayne has been seen numerous times doing reckless things in public such as smoking and drinking wine, but to further conceal his image as a party hard playboy. And about murder, Batman had a gun concealed just in case he ever had to use it when he had no other choice and have used it before being joined by Robin in his fight against crime. The only difference of costume was the yellow insignia which was given to Earth one Batman, but other aspects of personality and traits are remarkably similar to the Burton films. Let's not forget, the lack of partnership with Jim Gordon translated into the big screen where in both 89' and Returns Gordon is barely a noticeable factor.
Batman Forever - portrayed by Val Kilmer
comic counterpart -> Earth one Batman
Why: The origin is more similar to the Earth two story as Wayne did not have an older brother in the film like he did in Earth one, but his motivations and personality blend well together in Forever as he did in the Earth one stories. This doen't really matter because the origin is viewed largely in flashbacks of the murders and is vague on Wayne's past. In Earth one Wayne adopted the codename of 'Robin' before he ever put on the cape and cowl as the bat and only when meeting Dick Grayson would he take off the name permanently and replace it with the true name of Batman. The costume is very similar to what Kilmer wears during his stint as Batman down to the yellow oval on the chest. Wayne's depiction in Earth one as a lighthearted Bruce Wayne and stern Batman fits Kilmer's portrayal perfectly.
Batman & Robin - portrayed by George Clooney
comic counterpart -> ???
... my friends and I decided this ghastly portrayal of Batman fit no other Batman in the comics. Even Earth -31 Batman was easier to take then this goofy depiction of the caped crusader.
Batman Begins/The Dark Knight - portrayed by Christian Bale
comic counterpart -> New Earth Batman
Why: With stories adapted from Year One, The Man who Falls, and The Long Halloween, there is no question that Christian Bale's Bruce Wayne/Batman is modeled after the New Earth Dark Knight. Just as in the Man who Falls story it was Henri Ducard who had shown Wayne what he truly was capable of by frightening criminals into submission and not just a martial artist as depicted in the Earth one and two Batmans, Bale's Batman is knowledged as having numerous fighting skills just like the New Earth model. The return to Gotham, discoveries of the caves, close relationship with Alfred, and operating primarily at night as the masked avenger... Bale's Batman brings many similarities to New Earth.
Other similar aspects - Finances Lucious Fox as head of business at Wayne Enterprises and confides in Fox to keep Wayne up to date with the latest gadgets. The facade of Bruce Wayne being a playboy and the Batman being the "true" man. The stony raspy bass voice both aquire when masked. Other than Bats, other characters such as the Joker, Gordon, Dent, Ra's Al Ghul, scarecrow largely resemble their New Earth counterparts (though The Joker has been pieced throughout several Earth depictions). Of all things considered the relationship of Gordon and Batman remains most faithful to New Earth and is the closest resemblance seen in films.
... your thoughts?
... yeah I think people aren't understanding the comic concept of this thread. I'll think twice before posting this on this board next time.
