The Amazing Spider-Man Audiences...

[webhead731]

Did Sony think about the audiences?

I mean, they've seen the origin, they've seen Green Goblin, Ock, Sandman, Goblin Jr., Venom etc. Now what? Do it again? It's hardly been A decade. I suppose they could start with other villains like Batman did...but damn.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Agreed, webhead731.

 

[bryanss3]

Agreed thats a point I brought up in my pros and cons thread. and I feel the same way. They could always go big and start with Electro or something. Spidey's world is so drastically different from Batman's though in the villain department.

 

[BrollySupersj]

That problem will be solved with a tagline such as this "A new retelling of Marvel's greatest superhero!"

 

[chaseter]

What sucks is that they aren't going to make Doc Ock cooler than he was in SM2. Sure his motivations may have been a bit different but damn, they did a great job with Ock in SM2. He looked great and Molina delivered a great performance.

 

[MadVillainy]

reboot doesnt mean they need to do the origins
and as you said they can start with other villians

 

[bryanss3]

That problem will be solved with a tagline such as this "A new retelling of Marvel's greatest superhero!"

And General audiences will say "wait what? again? I was waiting for the next one"

 

[TheComicbookKid]

That's what I don't get. Dude was still in college. There's not any story you can't tell in high school that wouldn't apply to college. Spidey 3 left MJ and Peter as just friends so Spdidey was free to just swing around on an independent adventure.

How are people going to get around the idea that they've already watched him progress pass high school and get(at least temporarily) the girl of his dream? They've seen Gwen and Betty Brant, too.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

What sucks is that they aren't going to make Doc Ock cooler than he was in SM2. Sure his motivations may have been a bit different but damn, they did a great job with Ock in SM2. He looked great and Molina delivered a great performance.

This!

Molina did such a great job of being a nice husband and a sympathetic cahracter to this unstoppable madman, pretty much. Molina was pure greatness. Not to mention the way Ock looked and the action scenes.

 

[VenomVsSpidey]

Seriously may avoid seeing it in theater. It's beyond stupid. I can't wait to see how Peter Parker gets his power cause we've all forgot...

 

[MadVillainy]

Seriously may avoid seeing it in theater. It's beyond stupid. I can't wait to see how Peter Parker gets his power cause we've all forgot...

did they say its an origin tale? no then assuming so right now is beyond stupid

 

[Jennifer Walters]

And General audiences will say "wait what? again? I was waiting for the next one"

They won't care. They'll just be glad there's another Spider-Man film.

 

[webhead731]

God this is just so...ugh. It has to be a joke. A dream. Freddy got me. =(

 

[NinjaCarm]

I could give a rats a ss about the the general audience who doesn't know a single thing about how Spider-Man should have been done. They were probably waiting for Batman and Robin and Batgirl starring George Clooney after Joel Schumachers opus.

 

[Figs]

What sucks is that they aren't going to make Doc Ock cooler than he was in SM2. Sure his motivations may have been a bit different but damn, they did a great job with Ock in SM2. He looked great and Molina delivered a great performance.

In one of the other threads I said it's always possible for an actor to do a better job but in Doc Ock's case, it's going to be incredibly hard beating Molina. Especially the fights, that first fight where Spidey and Doc Ock are falling and the music stops and all you hear is the sound effects of them punching each other and their grunts, that to me was like seeing the comic come right off the page.

Reading a comic you don't hear background music in the story(unless you really have your imagination going at full steam), to me that one scene is my favorite from all 3 films.

 

[The Joker]

What sucks is that they aren't going to make Doc Ock cooler than he was in SM2.

Oh they so easily can. Alfred Molina was fantastic, and looked awesome. But they can make Ock more true to his comic book character, and be even more ruthless and badass, with no redemption at the end, no mind being screwed by A.I., or telling Peter to read love poetry etc.

None of the villains, save for Venom, came close to their true potential. The best way to do it is to start off with villains who we haven't seen yet, similar to what Batman Begins did.

Then bring in the A-list villains like Doc Ock and Green Goblin in the sequels.

 

[bryanss3]

They won't care. They'll just be glad there's another Spider-Man film.

They were already glad... now they're just going to have to wait longer for a new one. That's starting over.

 

[MadVillainy]

They were already glad... now they're just going to have to wait longer for a new one. That's starting over.

they werent glad after SM3

 

[Mister J]

Spidey has plenty of villains to go around that can make for a compelling story. I think they can get away with not touching Green Goblin or Doc Ock until a third film (although I believe Norman Osbourne should be introduced prior to such). Between The Lizard, Kraven, Electro, Mysterio, Rhino, Shocker, Vulture, Tombstone, Silvermane and Morbius, I think there's enough to tide moviegoers over until having/needing/wanting to replay the big guns that were trotted out already. There are also improvements that can be made with Norman and Otto that would serve to vary things up from the Dafoe and Molina versions, when the decision is made to go in that direction.

A total origin story isn't really necessary. The GA is familiar enough with who/what Spider-Man is to not need it spoonfed to them. Batman '89 and The Incredible Hulk are two movies from this genre that come to mind that managed to convey the hero's beginning without being overly bogged down in detail.

Besides, audiences are going to connect this to the previous 3 films, regardless of what efforts are made to distinguish. Joe Moviegoer isn't following this stuff that closely and doesn't really care. He just wants to be entertained.

 

[Jennifer Walters]

They were already glad... now they're just going to have to wait longer for a new one. That's starting over.

Eh. That will just make them more anxious for more Spider-Man fun. It was time for some freshness in the franchise.

And sure this could suck, but it could easily top Raimi's films easily.

 

[chaseter]

Oh they so easily can. Alfred Molina was fantastic, and looked awesome. But they can make Ock more true to his comic book character, and be even more ruthless and badass, with no redemption at the end, no mind being screwed by A.I., or telling Peter to read love poetry etc.

None of the villains, save for Venom, came close to their true potential. The best way to do it is to start off with villains who we haven't seen yet, similar to what Batman Begins did.

Then bring in the A-list villains like Doc Ock and Green Goblin in the sequels.

Except Doc Ock the way Ditko and Romita drew him looked stupid...as well was his incarnation in the animated series. Ultimate Doc Ock looks better but in SM2, it was just perfect imo the way he looked. It was realistic as you could get and it didn't look cheesy or stupid...it looked amazing.

 

[BrollySupersj]

And General audiences will say "wait what? again? I was waiting for the next one"

Indeed, that's what they'll say. I'm just saying, that Sony will just pull a simple tagline and it'll be all over, in terms of confusion.

 

[MadVillainy]

Spidey has plenty of villains to go around that can make for a compelling story. I think they can get away with not touching Green Goblin or Doc Ock until a third film (although I believe Norman Osbourne should be introduced prior to such). Between The Lizard, Kraven, Electro, Mysterio, Rhino, Shocker, Vulture, Tombstone, Silvermane and Morbius, I think there's enough to tide moviegoers over until having/needing/wanting to replay the big guns that were trotted out already. There are also improvements that can be made with Norman and Otto that would serve to vary things up from the Dafoe and Molina versions, when the decision is made to go in that direction.

A total origin story isn't really necessary. The GA is familiar enough with who/what Spider-Man is to not need it spoonfed to them. Batman '89 and The Incredible Hulk are two movies from this genre that come to mind that managed to convey the hero's beginning without being overly bogged down in detail.

 

[The Joker]

Except Doc Ock the way Ditko and Romita drew him looked stupid

I'm talking about characterization, not design. I don't want Ock wearing the green spandex any more than I want to see Green Goblin in a purple night cap with elf boots and a handbag.

 

[chaseter]

Spidey has plenty of villains to go around that can make for a compelling story. I think they can get away with not touching Green Goblin or Doc Ock until a third film (although I believe Norman Osbourne should be introduced prior to such). Between The Lizard, Kraven, Electro, Mysterio, Rhino, Shocker, Vulture, Tombstone, Silvermane and Morbius, I think there's enough to tide moviegoers over until having/needing/wanting to replay the big guns that were trotted out already. There are also improvements that can be made with Norman and Otto that would serve to vary things up from the Dafoe and Molina versions, when the decision is made to go in that direction.

A total origin story isn't really necessary. The GA is familiar enough with who/what Spider-Man is to not need it spoonfed to them. Batman '89 and The Incredible Hulk are two movies from this genre that come to mind that managed to convey the hero's beginning without being overly bogged down in detail.

Besides, audiences are going to connect this to the previous 3 films, regardless of what efforts are made to distinguish. Joe Moviegoer isn't following this stuff that closely and doesn't really care. He just wants to be entertained.

You list Vulture but apparently he wasn't good enough for Sony. They will go for big villains so Morbius and Silvermane are out...thank god. Tombstone is also pretty stupid. Nobody wants to see a mobster with a metal plated head ramming crap.